Old Grumpy Wolf

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Hey, I never said that! Curse this dastardly quote editing technology!


In all seriousness, I'm pretty sure Risa is basically the wounded bird LI. Her romance is going to be for the guys that have rescue fantasies *cough* Joshy *cough*. I gotta admit, I'm definitely one of them too. There's nothing more sweet than being there for someone who really needs you. I mean, what else is love, after all? So, I'll probably love her romance route when it comes about. I mean, assuming I'm not talking out of my ass here anyways :LOL:
I know what she really needs and it's not savin. See my post where I said where it all starts. :devilish:
 

Dessolos

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In all seriousness, I'm pretty sure Risa is basically the wounded bird LI. Her romance is going to be for the guys that have rescue fantasies *cough* Joshy *cough*. I gotta admit, I'm definitely one of them too. There's nothing more sweet than being there for someone who really needs you. I mean, what else is love, after all? So, I'll probably love her romance route when it comes about. I mean, assuming I'm not talking out of my ass here anyways :LOL:
I'm kind of feel the same with her. The look she gave us in the car won me over. To me that one look on her face said i'm sorry, I'm desperate, I need help and lost, and im scared. Which is why I love this dev he knows how say so much just from facial expressions.

But in all seriousness even if she was someone I hated id have to help her she would have to do something worst to get me to ignore her. But could never dark path her. As it would feel like im taking advantage of her which is why I ignore mason's romance. Since it would make me feel like a real piece of shit to ignore her knowing the MC could potentially help her. Be different if the MC has tried before and she just keeps taking advantage of him. But since it's the first time with her and the MC id have to try and help at least once.
 

Old Grumpy Wolf

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In all seriousness, I'm pretty sure Risa is basically the wounded bird LI. Her romance is going to be for the guys that have rescue fantasies *cough* Joshy *cough*. I gotta admit, I'm definitely one of them too.
I'm kind of feel the same with her. The look she gave us in the car won me over. To me that one look on her face said i'm sorry, I'm desperate, I need help and lost, and im scared. Which is why I love this dev he knows how say so much just from facial expressions.

But in all seriousness even if she was someone I hated id have to help her she would have to do something worst to get me to ignore her. But could never dark path her. As it would feel like im taking advantage of her which is why I ignore mason's romance. Since it would make me feel like a real piece of shit to ignore her knowing the MC could potentially help her. Be different if the MC has tried before and she just keeps taking advantage of him. But since it's the first time with her and the MC id have to try and help at least once.
Both of you and Joshy92 need to buy a Simp Mobile and simp together. :ROFLMAO: I'm just tryin to help. So, I called the NTBP.
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SlapE

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In all seriousness, I'm pretty sure Risa is basically the wounded bird LI. Her romance is going to be for the guys that have rescue fantasies *cough* Joshy *cough*. I gotta admit, I'm definitely one of them too. There's nothing more sweet than being there for someone who really needs you. I mean, what else is love, after all? So, I'll probably love her romance route when it comes about. I mean, assuming I'm not talking out of my ass here anyways
I also enjoy helping damsel's in distress, assuming they actually deserve my help. I just have a hard stance on not getting close to addicts. I've been around enough of them in real life, so I'm not interested in involving myself with them in fantasy worlds. (with the exception of Zoey Raven's wonderfully written game, which is a redemption story in essence anyways)

I mean, there are other characters in this game who are in need of saving, for example: Viola, Pepper, and Brittani. I'm planning on helping all of them out, pepper most of all, since her situation seems to be the worst of the bunch. I hope once we find the fucker who is treating her like that, we get to serve him with some glorious justice.
 

Old Grumpy Wolf

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I also enjoy helping damsel's in distress, assuming they actually deserve my help. I just have a hard stance on not getting close to addicts. I've been around enough of them in real life, so I'm not interested in involving myself with them in fantasy worlds. (with the exception of Zoey Raven's wonderfully written game, which is a redemption story in essence anyways)

I mean, there are other characters in this game who are in need of saving, for example: Viola, Pepper, and Brittani. I'm planning on helping all of them out, pepper most of all, since her situation seems to be the worst of the bunch. I hope once we find the fucker who is treating her like that, we get to serve him with some glorious justice.
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tldr; I'm sick and my brain's melting, so I rambled a bit about storytelling, comic books, and invincible AVN heroes.

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Thanks for playing! Always love seeing these detailed breakdowns from folks. Next update is a continuation of this chapter, THEN the Chapter One remake. There's a big cliffhanger ending for the next one, and I want people to be able to chew on it a bit, while I redo the first chapter. >_>
why do you wanna remake any chapter .. so far the game has been nothing but awesome ... i don't get why dev.'s 90% of the time do remakes .. most often they are not as good as the original's dev's make .... not that anyone can stop you ... but i'm saving the way things are right now ... just in case i don't like what you've changed .. not that i won't play ... i mean damn your pretty awesome so far ... :)

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Well, I'm not going to do a dark path with Risa, but I'm definitely going to ignore/avoid her every chance the game gives me. If the game gives me a choice to get her some help, I don't mind doing that, but I'm not trying to be her friend, and I'm definitely not trying to start a sexual or romantic relationship with her. If she recovers and gets better, then maybe I could be her friend, but that's it.
I understand completely as her attitude she comes w is hard to stand ... still as she obviously also is able to adopt to help out and has a sharp sense and mind ... I got intrigued, less erotically than what drives, motivates such a young bright girl to act up like in revolte the norms and uniforms ...
 

PHIL101-YYouPPHard

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I feel kinda silly after the fact saying Risa was the wounded bird LI. They're all wounded birds to some extent. I was thinking Risa is going to be the biggest challenge considering the past + the personality issues + the drugs all wrapped into one. Maybe she should be, but, really, if you think about it, all the LIs are probably going to have long-term challenges for MC and themselves to navigate.

Nicki - attracts the wrong men who manipulate & abuse her. has a big love-shaped hole in her heart. will take a long time to heal I think.

Ashe - has deep guilt & shame over her friend's accident. that's probably never going to go away completely. also gets underestimated a lot probably (sounds like an airhead, etc.), but I feel like that first thing takes precedent.

Carolina - typical struggles of an overworked single mom w/ a deadbeat ex. tbh, despite this, she actually seems pretty well put-together and so maybe most of the pain will come from the fact that her daughter's father isn't around for Maya. in that case, we can come close to fixing it, but Maya will probably never get over that completely.

Madison - failing business, strained relationship w/ her daughter, and another deadbeat husband that has run-ins w/ the law. also internalizes any racial tension that her daughter receives (or at least perceives). that's all i know so far, but tbh this one seems like problems that can be fixed for the most part. depending on how close the father is to gabby and where he eventually ends up, Madison will also have that pain and stress to contend with.

Gabby - wallflower w/ racial undertones. had a racist pos bf that manipulated her and brought her deepest fears & vulnerabilities bubbling to the surface. possible our MC can repair that damage, but given the age gap, I'm not sure how Neon will decide to work it out in the end.

Mason - autistic, trans, distant bigoted father, (abuse-speckled) sex work, and homeless... this one's self-evident. we can fix the homelessness, but everything else is going to be life-long struggles.

Britanni - abusive mother who uses her as an income and willing to sell her to the highest bidder. step-father is/was inappropriate w/ her. potentially went further than that.. but given the nature of these games and their audiences, even if neon wanted to explore that, he probably axed it given the expected reaction, similar to how Nicky escaped the porn shoot unmolested. will probably be long-term damage control 'cause that shit sticks with you.

Viola - a sick (and potentially dying) mother and the resultant financial dire straits. add to that immigrant fleeing from conflict (implicit) and yeah... that's going to make for some emotional scarring.

Pepper - I don't think we know for sure yet, but probably physically abusive father. difficult background & poor. lots to be angry about. same story, long-term damage control methinks.

Alex - no idea yet. my curiosity is definitely piqued!

So, yeah... I think Neon has done a good job developing these characters' backgrounds because he's basically guaranteed that they'll all be big 'investments' for any partner, and that makes for the deepest and most compelling romance stories imo. It's not just Risa.
 
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I feel kinda silly after the fact saying Risa was the wounded bird LI. They're all wounded birds to some extent. I was thinking Risa is going to be the biggest challenge considering the past + the personality issues + the drugs all wrapped into one. Maybe she should be, but, really, if you think about it, all the LIs are probably going to have long-term challenges for MC and themselves to navigate.

Nicki - attracts the wrong men who manipulate & abuse her. has a big love-shaped hole in her heart. will take a long time to heal I think.

Ashe - has deep guilt & shame over her friend's accident. that's probably never going to go away completely. also gets underestimated a lot probably (sounds like an airhead, etc.), but I feel like that first thing takes precedent.

Carolina - typical struggles of an overworked single mom w/ a deadbeat ex. tbh, despite this, she actually seems pretty well put-together and so maybe most of the pain will come from the fact that her daughter's father isn't around for Maya. in that case, we can come close to fixing it, but Maya will probably never get over that completely.

Madison - failing business, strained relationship w/ her daughter, and another deadbeat husband that has run-ins w/ the law. also internalizes any racial tension that her daughter receives (or at least perceives). that's all i know so far, but tbh this one seems like problems that can be fixed for the most part. depending on how close the father is to gabby and where he eventually ends up, Madison will also have that pain and stress to contend with.

Gabby - wallflower w/ racial undertones. had a racist pos bf that manipulated her and brought her deepest fears & vulnerabilities bubbling to the surface. possible our MC can repair that damage, but given the age gap, I'm not sure how Neon will decide to work it out in the end.

Mason - autistic, trans, distant bigoted father, and homeless... this one's self-evident. we can fix the homelessness, but everything else is going to be life-long struggles.

Britanni - abusive mother who uses her as an income and willing to sell her to the highest bidder. step-father is/was inappropriate w/ her. potentially went further than that.. but given the nature of these games and their audiences, even if neon wanted to explore that, he probably axed it given the expected reaction, similar to how Nicky escaped the porn shoot unmolested. will probably be long-term damage control 'cause that shit sticks with you.

Viola - a sick (and potentially dying) mother and the resultant financial dire straits. add to that immigrant fleeing from conflict (implicit) and yeah... that's going to make for some emotional scarring.

Pepper - I don't think we know for sure yet, but probably physically abusive father. difficult background & poor. lots to be angry about. same story, long-term damage control methinks.

Alex - no idea yet. my curiosity is definitely piqued!

So, yeah... I think Neon has done a good job developing these characters' backgrounds because he's basically guaranteed that they'll all be big 'investments' for any partner, and that makes for the deepest and most compelling romance stories imo. It's not just Risa.
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The dark path potential, one of the best in the site.
 

Dessolos

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I feel kinda silly after the fact saying Risa was the wounded bird LI. They're all wounded birds to some extent. I was thinking Risa is going to be the biggest challenge considering the past + the personality issues + the drugs all wrapped into one. Maybe she should be, but, really, if you think about it, all the LIs are probably going to have long-term challenges for MC and themselves to navigate.

Nicki - attracts the wrong men who manipulate & abuse her. has a big love-shaped hole in her heart. will take a long time to heal I think.

Ashe - has deep guilt & shame over her friend's accident. that's probably never going to go away completely. also gets underestimated a lot probably (sounds like an airhead, etc.), but I feel like that first thing takes precedent.

Carolina - typical struggles of an overworked single mom w/ a deadbeat ex. tbh, despite this, she actually seems pretty well put-together and so maybe most of the pain will come from the fact that her daughter's father isn't around for Maya. in that case, we can come close to fixing it, but Maya will probably never get over that completely.

Madison - failing business, strained relationship w/ her daughter, and another deadbeat husband that has run-ins w/ the law. also internalizes any racial tension that her daughter receives (or at least perceives). that's all i know so far, but tbh this one seems like problems that can be fixed for the most part. depending on how close the father is to gabby and where he eventually ends up, Madison will also have that pain and stress to contend with.

Gabby - wallflower w/ racial undertones. had a racist pos bf that manipulated her and brought her deepest fears & vulnerabilities bubbling to the surface. possible our MC can repair that damage, but given the age gap, I'm not sure how Neon will decide to work it out in the end.

Mason - autistic, trans, distant bigoted father, (abuse-speckled) sex work, and homeless... this one's self-evident. we can fix the homelessness, but everything else is going to be life-long struggles.

Britanni - abusive mother who uses her as an income and willing to sell her to the highest bidder. step-father is/was inappropriate w/ her. potentially went further than that.. but given the nature of these games and their audiences, even if neon wanted to explore that, he probably axed it given the expected reaction, similar to how Nicky escaped the porn shoot unmolested. will probably be long-term damage control 'cause that shit sticks with you.

Viola - a sick (and potentially dying) mother and the resultant financial dire straits. add to that immigrant fleeing from conflict (implicit) and yeah... that's going to make for some emotional scarring.

Pepper - I don't think we know for sure yet, but probably physically abusive father. difficult background & poor. lots to be angry about. same story, long-term damage control methinks.

Alex - no idea yet. my curiosity is definitely piqued!

So, yeah... I think Neon has done a good job developing these characters' backgrounds because he's basically guaranteed that they'll all be big 'investments' for any partner, and that makes for the deepest and most compelling romance stories imo. It's not just Risa.
100% all this but not just his good writing in character backgrounds. I find Neon is really good in showing alot of emotion through facial expressions. For example during the Ashe date I was exploring all the dialogue options before going with my actual choice. There was one where you could tell Ashe either you don't want to have sex with her because you are interested in someone else. Well she goes home crying but fuck man the look on her face made me feel like a real piece of shit like I did some dark path shit to her instead of being honest with. Well lets just say I reloaded. Granted that option was still an asshole thing to do during a date and should of be handed before the date and just turned it into a friendly hangout instead if Guy wanted to backout of a romantic relationship with her. I knew it was an asshole move to pick to even if it was just for curiosity sake before reloading but man I did not expect it to make me feel like that just for the facial expressions from that choice.
 

PHIL101-YYouPPHard

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100% all this but not just his good writing in character backgrounds. I find Neon is really good in showing alot of emotion through facial expressions. For example during the Ashe date I was exploring all the dialogue options before going with my actual choice. There was one where you could tell Ashe either you don't want to have sex with her because you are interested in someone else. Well she goes home crying but fuck man the look on her face made me feel like a real piece of shit like I did some dark path shit to her instead of being honest with. Well lets just say I reloaded. Granted that option was still an asshole thing to do during a date and should of be handed before the date and just turned it into a friendly hangout instead if Guy wanted to backout of a romantic relationship with her. I knew it was an asshole move to pick to even if it was just for curiosity sake before reloading but man I did not expect it to make me feel like that just for the facial expressions from that choice.
Oh yeah, definitely. There's way too many games on this site where the author tries to explain the narrative and all the motivations and actions of the characters through really stiff narration and dialogue and it's just really, really hard to get through. I 99% end up uninstalling even if the renders are great. But this game has great dialogue and efficient use of facial expressions to inform (and move) the player. I really hope other authors try to replicate more of this because me likey :love:
 

Joshy92

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I always choose the nice guy options.
And these beautiful angels have never tried to take advantage of me.
That just reaffirms my decision to help every single one of them.

Mark my words everyone I will help these sweethearts anyway I can.
And I'm not doing it for sex.
 

Samuel Hidayat

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Hey, I never said that! Curse this dastardly quote editing technology!


In all seriousness, I'm pretty sure Risa is basically the wounded bird LI. Her romance is going to be for the guys that have rescue fantasies *cough* Joshy *cough*. I gotta admit, I'm definitely one of them too. There's nothing more sweet than being there for someone who really needs you. I mean, what else is love, after all? So, I'll probably love her romance route when it comes about. I mean, assuming I'm not talking out of my ass here anyways :LOL:
I'm kind of feel the same with her. The look she gave us in the car won me over. To me that one look on her face said i'm sorry, I'm desperate, I need help and lost, and im scared. Which is why I love this dev he knows how say so much just from facial expressions.

But in all seriousness even if she was someone I hated id have to help her she would have to do something worst to get me to ignore her. But could never dark path her. As it would feel like im taking advantage of her which is why I ignore mason's romance. Since it would make me feel like a real piece of shit to ignore her knowing the MC could potentially help her. Be different if the MC has tried before and she just keeps taking advantage of him. But since it's the first time with her and the MC id have to try and help at least once.
Just say "I can fix her" bruvs. No need a whole essay.

Hell, this whole game is basically that.
 
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