TrixRabbit

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The main selling point of this title is dark/corruption paths. Aside from them, there really is nothing outstanding about it. Generic characters are featured in generic interactions leading to generic outcomes through generic dialogues. There's a bunch of other games on this site that either tell a better story or do it in a much more creative way.

Conclusion: if you're not into rape/blackmail, don't bother downloading this game.

P.S. Sorry for bad English.
I don't know of another game on here where you're very wealthy and go around helping people just to be nice.

In my save I've only ever been with Nicky, and I've only ever been nice to Nicky - beyond that, I (with Nicky's help) have helped fund Ashe's museum, saved a locally owned bookstore and helped out its owner and her step-daughter, saved Viola from her lecherous landlord and am planning to help with her mom and get her into a better apartment, gotten Mason off the street, bought him glasses, new clothes and am finding him a job, am helping Risa (and hopefully Cherry) to bring down the rape-porn ring, bought the diner Pepper works at - have treated her well and offered my help (but I have to wait for her to actually ask) and am about to help my sister with some legal problems - the photoshoot with Madison was a bit iffy but I never touched her and deleted the pictures she asked me to. And again, other than Nicky I haven't done anything sexual with them or treated them badly in any way. So I'm not sure how that is "dark path", rape or blackmail or which other game lets me do that. I'd love a list though if there are some.
 

ArDZer

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I don't know of another game on here where you're very wealthy and go around helping people just to be nice.

In my save I've only ever been with Nicky, and I've only ever been nice to Nicky - beyond that, I (with Nicky's help) have helped fund Ashe's museum, saved a locally owned bookstore and helped out its owner and her step-daughter, saved Viola from her lecherous landlord and am planning to help with her mom and get her into a better apartment, gotten Mason off the street, bought him glasses, new clothes and am finding him a job, am helping Risa (and hopefully Cherry) to bring down the rape-porn ring, bought the diner Pepper works at - have treated her well and offered my help (but I have to wait for her to actually ask) and am about to help my sister with some legal problems - the photoshoot with Madison was a bit iffy but I never touched her and deleted the pictures she asked me to. And again, other than Nicky I haven't done anything sexual with them or treated them badly in any way. So I'm not sure how that is "dark path", rape or blackmail or which other game lets me do that. I'd love a list though if there are some.
I think you mean Brittani mate (Madison's the owner of Barron Books and she's Gabriella's stepmom). At least in regards to the calendar photoshoot, and if the protagonist also chooses to help her with the movie based on her acting skills. And there's an option if Carolina's being pursued romantically where either Viola or Brittani can be recommended to babysit Maya in the future (I think if you're in the good route).
 

ffive

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The latest update was amazing. Guy and Mason dynamic was so good on it. :love:
I'd say the Mason thing can come across really weird in how thirsty and pushy the game is with popping you question if "Would you like to fuck Mason?" every 10 minutes and in every scene he appears, after you have already turned him down in previous chapter, and going as far as to have him proposition the MC outright even after he was told that MC has a girlfriend, has met said girlfriend in person, and the MC gave him no reason to even think any offers of sex or seduction would be welcome.

I mean, even Risa of all people understands what "i'm not interested, i have a gf" means. But the stuttering kid? It's apparently beyond his comprehension.
 

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I'd say the Mason thing can come across really weird in how thirsty and pushy the game is with popping you question if "Would you like to fuck Mason?" every 10 minutes and in every scene he appears, after you have already turned him down in previous chapter, and going as far as to have him proposition the MC outright even after he was told that MC has a girlfriend, has met said girlfriend in person, and the MC gave him no reason to even think any offers of sex or seduction would be welcome.

I mean, even Risa of all people understands what "i'm not interested, i have a gf" means. But the stuttering kid? It's apparently beyond his comprehension.
I really don't see it like that.

Mason is a homeless trans who had to resort to sex work to live. Because of that most of his social relationships had a transactional nature so far: sex for money, for food, for a place to sleep.

Then here comes Guy helping by giving him a place to live, food to eat, clothes, glasses for his eyes and even finding him a stable job. It is no wonder that Mason tries to pay Guy for everything the only way he has known for a long time.
 

ffive

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Then here comes Guy helping by giving him a place to live, food to eat, clothes, glasses for his eyes and even finding him a stable job. It is no wonder that Mason tries to pay Guy for everything the only way he has known for a long time.
It is no wonder that Mason makes this offer shortly after MC brings him to his place. But if you choose at this point to tell Mason that you are not doing it to get any sex from him, if you then repeatedly choose only friendly interactions with Mason, if you tell Mason you have a girlfriend and introduce her to him, then after all this Mason suddenly asking if you would like him to suck you off in a bath comes both very much unexpected and unwelcome. Mason already has a different way to pay MC back at this point -- by working the job at the bookstore the MC has given him. It's made even weirder by the fact you don't even get option to tell Mason that he's out of line.
 

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Friends in Need sees you stepping into the role of a man who made a very bad financial decision, which nearly resulted in your ruin. Years later, the reverberations of that decision echo once more through your life, suddenly enriching you beyond your wildest imaginings. When your best friend and long-time crush comes to you for help with her own financial misfortune, you realize that with nearly unlimited resources, you can be a force for good - or evil.

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Is it possible to move or copy&paste the taboo patch in Android to the game folder?
 

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I'd say the Mason thing can come across really weird in how thirsty and pushy the game is with popping you question if "Would you like to fuck Mason?" every 10 minutes and in every scene he appears, after you have already turned him down in previous chapter, and going as far as to have him proposition the MC outright even after he was told that MC has a girlfriend, has met said girlfriend in person, and the MC gave him no reason to even think any offers of sex or seduction would be welcome.

I mean, even Risa of all people understands what "i'm not interested, i have a gf" means. But the stuttering kid? It's apparently beyond his comprehension.
No joke, I came here right now to ask if there was a way to avoid sexual interaction with him. I’m at chapter nine, and, despite always choosing the most businesslike option every time, I’m still seeing him model lingerie and giving me peeks into the dressing room. I really wanted to help him, but if this is how it’s going to be from here on out, I’m loading an earlier save and dumping him on the curb.

I might make an exception if there have been some interesting developments along the “force him back into being a girl” route. What’s that look like nowadays?
 

Dessolos

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No joke, I came here right now to ask if there was a way to avoid sexual interaction with him. I’m at chapter nine, and, despite always choosing the most businesslike option every time, I’m still seeing him model lingerie and giving me peeks into the dressing room. I really wanted to help him, but if this is how it’s going to be from here on out, I’m loading an earlier save and dumping him on the curb.

I might make an exception if there have been some interesting developments along the “force him back into being a girl” route. What’s that look like nowadays?
I never did anything sexual with Mason it's all on your choice if you do.
 

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I never did anything sexual with Mason it's all on your choice if you do.
I’ve never fucked him, to be clear. What I meant is that, despite this being the case, I still feel like this game thinks I’m interested (like with the lingerie modelling). If this is because of a choice I made earlier, I genuinely have no idea where I went wrong.
 
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ffive

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I never did anything sexual with Mason it's all on your choice if you do.
I have checked it and Mason offering to suck you off in the tub is literally hardcoded in game script, with zero regard to player's earlier choices. So no, this is not the case where the responsibility for character's behavior can be blamed on player's choices. Well, other than "you have chosen to interact with this character at all" i guess.

You can check it yourself:
Python:
    ms"S-sir?"
    mc10"{size=-10}{i}hah.. hah..{/size}{/i}"
    if msglasses == True :
        scene 10q066 with dissolve
    else :
        scene 10q066a with dissolve
    ms"It.. It's t-time to get up.."
    mc10"Right.. Right.. 7:00 already?"
    ms"Y-yes, sir."
    mc10"Alright.. I'm gonna take a bath and.. I'll be right there."
    ms"Do you.. Do you w-want me to join you? I can make you feel better.. With my
    mouth.."
    menu:
        "Have Mason join you in the bath.":
//...
        "Bathe alone.":
//...
No ifs or buts about it.
 
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I’ve never fucked him, to be clear. What I meant is that, despite this being the case, I still feel like this game thinks I’m interested (like with the lingerie modelling). If this is because of a choice I made earlier, I genuinely have no idea where I went wrong.
It's just who Mason is right now but dumping him on the curb or even not picking him up in the first place aren't options, so you'll just have to keep saying no until he stops offering (Maybe at some point we can have Nicki talk to him? Dunno.)
 

Dessolos

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I have checked it and Mason offering to suck you off in the tub is literally hardcoded in game script, with zero regard to player's earlier choices. So no, this is not the case where the responsibility for character's behavior can be blamed on player's choices. Well, other than "you have chosen to interact with this character at all" i guess.

You can check it yourself:
Python:
    ms"S-sir?"
    mc10"{size=-10}{i}hah.. hah..{/size}{/i}"
    if msglasses == True :
        scene 10q066 with dissolve
    else :
        scene 10q066a with dissolve
    ms"It.. It's t-time to get up.."
    mc10"Right.. Right.. 7:00 already?"
    ms"Y-yes, sir."
    mc10"Alright.. I'm gonna take a bath and.. I'll be right there."
    ms"Do you.. Do you w-want me to join you? I can make you feel better.. With my
    mouth.."
    menu:
        "Have Mason join you in the bath.":
//...
        "Bathe alone.":
//...
No ifs or buts about it.
doesn't mean anything sexual happens unless you pick the option tho. Yeah he still makes offers but you are still given the choice to act on it or not which is what I was saying
 

ffive

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doesn't mean anything sexual happens unless you pick the option tho. Yeah he still makes offers but you are still given the choice to act on it or not which is what I was saying
OK, then you're talking about something that's not exactly what people complain about. Which is both the character and the game pushing sexual situations on the player even after the player has clearly indicated they have no interest in this particular content. You are also not given option to tell the kid to knock it off and stop giving you these offers, which can add to the annoyance.
 

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It it my opinion that Mason keeps attempting to initiate sex with Guy even after he turns down previous attempts because he is honestly infatuated with him and his resistance only makes him more attractive. People often want what they can't have more than what is easily attainable. So it isn't really an affront against player agency so much as Guy not enforcing boundaries. I have a playthrough where Guy isn't romancing anyone and they are usually pretty soft rejections that he hands out. No hard "nos" to be found.
 

ffive

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It it my opinion that Mason keeps attempting to initiate sex with Guy even after he turns down previous attempts because he is honestly infatuated with him and his resistance only makes him more attractive. People often want what they can't have more than what is easily attainable. So it isn't really an affront against player agency so much as Guy not enforcing boundaries.
Unfortunately this has a side-effect of making Mason look like a pretty shitty person in scenario where MC is in a relationship that Mason appears to completely ignore despite being fully aware of it. Which, if this was actual intention, then fair enough, no one says the kid can't be a selfish little shit. But given zero reflection in this regard from the MC and the lack of options to establish boundaries it comes across like this context (or the idea that maybe the player doesn't actually want to fuck Mason and so maybe they don't need to be given some 5+ opportunities for that in span of a few hours) didn't even occur to the author.

(to be fair, there seems to be similar lack of reflection in scenario where the player chooses to fuck Risa which can also happen around the same time)
 

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Unfortunately this has a side-effect of making Mason look like a pretty shitty person in scenario where MC is in a relationship that Mason appears to completely ignore despite being fully aware of it. Which, if this was actual intention, then fair enough, no one says the kid can't be a selfish little shit. But given zero reflection in this regard from the MC and the lack of options to establish boundaries it comes across like this context (or the idea that maybe the player doesn't actually want to fuck Mason and so maybe they don't need to be given some 5+ opportunities for that in span of a few hours) didn't even occur to the author.

(to be fair, there seems to be similar lack of reflection in scenario where the player chooses to fuck Risa which can also happen around the same time)
Well, you can explain it from a real world perspective or a character perspective I guess.

Real world: author spent a lot of time on many other things in the update, maybe decided he just didn't feel like making an nth route for people not into Mason. Alternatively, maybe he wanted to keep options open to players who might not want to miss out on scenes. Both understandable. And tbh, you can come up with an infinite number of personal preferences "why didn't author do this", but well, a line has to be drawn somewhere, right?

Character: as others have said, Mason is a sex worker, he's trans, he's autistic, and he's brain-damaged/has head trauma, and on top of all of that, he's young. Maybe he's quite clingy? Maybe he's been conditioned to use sex to survive? Maybe he's been conditioned to not take what appears to be honesty and kindness at face value? Maybe he's just falling for the MC? There's so many in-world explanations you could come up with.

Either way, you're never forced to fuck him. This was a big update that focused on Mason, so that's an important consideration. Coding wise, the next update will also change some things and force players to start over anyways, so that's another (things aren't finalized, basically). So, I'm sure after this update, the game will be coded to recognize that you're actually really not into Mason. But FYI, he's still a major character and Neon said he isn't going anywhere, so don't expect there to be a 'delete Mason from story' option.
 
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ffive

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But FYI, he's still a major character and Neon said he isn't going anywhere, so don't expect there to be a 'delete Mason from story' option.
I'm fairly sure it's going to turn out the assault Mason suffered is connected to Lucien and his little rape industry (what with Mason fitting the apparent visual type and all) so yeah, i don't really expect the character to disappear or anything like that. And that's fine, if anything i welcome all the non-sexual content it can provide to the game's plot.

I'd simply like an option to tell the kid i'm not interested in his advances, same way you can tell that e.g. Ashe. As it is, MC is quite insistently deprived of this option, and every time you choose to say no he is acting as if he is just not interested at that particular moment rather than firmly establishing lack of interest at all. After like, 5th time in one episode it can get slightly vexing.
 
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Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas, and got some nice stuff from Santa (and his helpers).

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I fully planned to put out a little micro-update for Christmas, and then I got sick with something that put me on the couch for a week in a NyQuil-fueld stupor. Booo.. But, since I already wrote it, I'm going to tweak it, and put it out for New Years. Cool? Cool!

Real world: author spent a lot of time on many other things in the update, maybe decided he just didn't feel like making an nth route for people not into Mason. Alternatively, maybe he wanted to keep options open to players who might not want to miss out on scenes. Both understandable. And tbh, you can come up with an infinite number of personal preferences "why didn't author do this", but well, a line has to be drawn somewhere, right?
This is a big part of it. I'll be honest: as the updates have grown, my attention to detail for these little possibilities has diminished. I have tried to be mindful of it -- if you're just friends with Mason/treating him like a guy, and haven't had sex with him, you get a special dialogue option in the dressing room scene when he comes out in underwear. This is meant to hint towards Guy taking more of a 'big brother' role towards Mason.

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Also, a llllot of people reacted to Mason's first scene with, "Well, I like Mason, but I don't want to take advantage of him in this moment, so I won't get a BJ here, but I'd like the option later." So, those follow-up options exist for those people. I think Phil also explained Mason's character motivations pretty well. Being neurodivergent/disabled he's not always great at reading social cues. But, he's also preemptively trying to use sex as a way of avoiding trouble/aggression. So, when Guy wakes up panicked and breathless, Mason jumps to, "Okay, I can just suck his dick and calm him down." Depending on the relationship, that can be Mason genuinely just trying to do something nice for the guy who's been so nice to him, or just trying to de-escalate the tension he feels.

But, in the interest of pleasing everyone, I'll add a little dialogue there where the player can tell Mason to stop asking, locking him into the friend route. I'll also add a flag so that, if you do scold Mason in the dressing room scene, he won't ask you about sex anymore.

I think someone else up-thread had mentioned that the update was full of Mason sex/seemed to want the player to fuck Mason at every opportunity. To the point where it seemed a little much. That was intentional, for the arc of Guy and Mason's relationship. Let me explain: Mason's relationship with Guy is actually informed by own relationship with a younger non-binary partner I had. Said person was always up for sex at the beginning of the relationship, and into basically whatever kink I wanted to explore. To the point where I could just shove them to their knees, pull my dick out, and get a blowjob whenever I felt like it. Slap them around? Great! Choke them, spit on them, leash and collar them -- whatever! They were into it, I was into it, and all was well.

But, something interesting happened as we grew into an actual couple: they started drawing boundaries that weren't previously there. They didn't want me to essentially treat them like a free-use meat puppet, but like an actual romantic partner. That fundamentally changed the nature of our relationship, where I had to start acting like an actual boyfriend, as opposed to a guy who fucked them.

So, I wanted to build the beginning of Guy and Mason's relationship in a similar way, and watch it develop. Right now, Romance Path Guy can basically do whatever he wants to Mason, and Mason enjoys it. What happens if that changes? What if Guy visits Mason at Barron Books, and tries to drag him into the bathroom to fuck him, only to receive a firm, "No, I'm working and don't want to get fired!"

Is Guy still interested in a version of Mason who doesn't just do whatever he says, whenever he says it? Can they actually build a healthy relationship where they're more-or-less equals? Let's find ouuuut!
 
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