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thanks for doing some research for me was gonna go and look at the date scene again cause I got curious but never did lolOk, so I've spent way too much time sifting through all the game's images and some of the dialogue lol I'm not sure if I found anything of note. Here on out, beware of spoilers; I put the relevant photos in their own spoilers too so it wouldn't clog the screen when people scroll. These are all the clues I (and you all) are aware of so far:
1) Halloween photo that started all this of course; Guy found it during halloween update and then had some kind of dream related to it that was apparently very, very important. Later upon questioning, Ashe explains it was taken at the "Hirsch Home"; "It's like uh, a historic building downtown? They rent it out for parties and stuff. The Hirsch family was really involved with the city a few decades ago. Old money types. Made all their money in textiles. Nowadays they mostly keep to themselves, though."
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Guy's thoughts about that, btw: "It's not the place. Or the Hirsch family -- though you do mentally file the name away for later."
2) During Ashe's date in the jacuzzi, Guy remembers a bracelet (it appears on Ashe's wrist then disappears for the player's benefit; people thought it was a bug). It's the same bracelet she was wearing in the halloween photo.
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Ashe's choker in that halloween photo also looks (almost) exactly the same as Brit's choker she wore as a 'goth chick' during her photo shoot with Guy. That's already been mentioned multiple times in this thread by others, but don't know if that's an actual clue or if it's just a matter of limited art assets available to a game dev lol. Guy himself hasn't referenced it at all I don't think.
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Brit also wore the same bracelet, though, but Ashe mentions that the bracelet in her photo was a cheap prop; Guy figures Brit's was too. This could also rule out the choker as the same deal. They're both potentially red herrings.
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3) On Ashe's romance route, the morning after her date, she tells Guy that it might not be the photo itself, but it simply reminds him of something. This sparks him to look at the other photos and he lands on one of Cole & Bonnie adjacent to Ashe & whoever she's talking with (who himself may or may not be important?).
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Then that sparks another memory where Maya (Carolina's kid) took a photo of him & Nicki (photo was taken before this whole halloween party photo mystery began, I think? I have no recollection of it).
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He juxtaposes it with the one of Cole & Bonnie, and... I don't know, thinks it's interesting for some reason? Similar poses & perspectives, but... doesn't do anything for me.
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Anyways, that's mostly all I got regarding Ashe's halloween photo. I've looked for poses in other photos that were similar to Ashe's in her halloween one, thinking maybe if it was a photographer that was the link, maybe he (or she?) has some favorite poses he likes to request or something. Nada. I already knew about the hint on Ashe's romance route that Neon mentioned, but that didn't spark anything for me either. Thought maybe it might have to do with w/e conversation Guy & Nicki were having when Maya took that photo, but couldn't even find it. Considering this whole thing deals with Guy's subconscious, I mean, I don't know how abstract or concrete this is all supposed to be. Like, is it something directly related? Indirectly related? Related only on an abstract level if you squint hard enough?But if anyone remembers anything else that I missed or forgot, like key dialogue or at least something interesting that could be related, let me know! I'm mostly lost lol Maybe I will just keep my hand around my cock during this mystery where it belongs.
Now, ya'll can skip all the rest of this if you're not interested, as it might not pertain to the halloween photo mystery and there's some definite conclusion jumping on my part, but.. on my quest, I did think about some things, may have found some things, all relevant to the story. It's possible others have beaten me to the punch, but I can't be assed to search... so, first, some things I may have found: I found this photo from the halloween update of a pregnant Carolina dressed as a robber and, presumably, her man dressed as a cop.
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He looks like Lucien to me. Again, this could easily be a case of limited assets being reused.
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Here's two crazy theories if it's him: 1, is he Carolina's ex? And Maya's father? Or did he just get a photo with Carolina at a party they were both at? And 2, was he a cop in the past? Or is he still a cop (could be officially undercover)? Obviously people can buy cop uniforms & wear them for halloween. Buuut.. if it's him, and he used to be a cop and so already had a uniform to use... it would conveniently explain his connections with certain corrupt officers. That could also mean his real name might be Michael. This is all probably just way off the mark, though at least it's fun to consider.
I also found this: during the Halloween update, after Guy had spoken to Mr. Price about this halloween-themed calendar, Guy is trying to think of ideas for the shoot. Nicki walks in on him and finds him looking at this image:
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And then, upon her advice to use 'real looking girls', he goes searching for inspiration from halloween photos of the girls in his life. Looking at Cassie's, he finds this:
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Notice the gloves in that pornographic photo? And then the girl's outfit, to the left of Cassie? Looks like the same girl. And Guy's sister was around that girl at a halloween party? It might even be the same halloween party where that photo was taken; well, maybe not the same building, maybe the photographer picked her up at the party and brought her to his fancy mansion or w/e. The girl in the photo, btw, her eyes look like a deer in headlights. Does she even want to be there, spreading her legs to what could very well be some creep? A creep that is potentially in the vicinity of Cassie?
Now, my thoughts about one of the story's potential themes: this is probably yet another deviation, but because one of Lucien's aliases is the same as the asshole who took nudies of Ashe on a beach, another person in this thread mentioned that Lucien may have been the one who took those photos (not the halloween photos, in case all this photo talk is getting mixed up
Whew, ok. Wall is officially complete. To those who took the time to read, thanks lol. I postponed shit I need to do to type all this out
I like this idea of Ashe's dad beating him up. it would also explain Ashe's reluctance to call for police if Guy happens to rape her - her dad is on probation and he would probably go off the rails if he would know about rape, also explains dad's unemployment (he is unemployed right?Ok, so I've spent way too much time sifting through all the game's images and some of the dialogue lol I'm not sure if I found anything of note. Here on out, beware of spoilers; I put the relevant photos in their own spoilers too so it wouldn't clog the screen when people scroll. These are all the clues I (and you all) are aware of so far:
1) Halloween photo that started all this of course; Guy found it during halloween update and then had some kind of dream related to it that was apparently very, very important. Later upon questioning, Ashe explains it was taken at the "Hirsch Home"; "It's like uh, a historic building downtown? They rent it out for parties and stuff. The Hirsch family was really involved with the city a few decades ago. Old money types. Made all their money in textiles. Nowadays they mostly keep to themselves, though."
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Guy's thoughts about that, btw: "It's not the place. Or the Hirsch family -- though you do mentally file the name away for later."
2) During Ashe's date in the jacuzzi, Guy remembers a bracelet (it appears on Ashe's wrist then disappears for the player's benefit; people thought it was a bug). It's the same bracelet she was wearing in the halloween photo.
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Ashe's choker in that halloween photo also looks (almost) exactly the same as Brit's choker she wore as a 'goth chick' during her photo shoot with Guy. That's already been mentioned multiple times in this thread by others, but don't know if that's an actual clue or if it's just a matter of limited art assets available to a game dev lol. Guy himself hasn't referenced it at all I don't think.
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Brit also wore the same bracelet, though, but Ashe mentions that the bracelet in her photo was a cheap prop; Guy figures Brit's was too. This could also rule out the choker as the same deal. They're both potentially red herrings.
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3) On Ashe's romance route, the morning after her date, she tells Guy that it might not be the photo itself, but it simply reminds him of something. This sparks him to look at the other photos and he lands on one of Cole & Bonnie adjacent to Ashe & whoever she's talking with (who himself may or may not be important?).
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Then that sparks another memory where Maya (Carolina's kid) took a photo of him & Nicki (photo was taken before this whole halloween party photo mystery began, I think? I have no recollection of it).
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He juxtaposes it with the one of Cole & Bonnie, and... I don't know, thinks it's interesting for some reason? Similar poses & perspectives, but... doesn't do anything for me.
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Anyways, that's mostly all I got regarding Ashe's halloween photo. I've looked for poses in other photos that were similar to Ashe's in her halloween one, thinking maybe if it was a photographer that was the link, maybe he (or she?) has some favorite poses he likes to request or something. Nada. I already knew about the hint on Ashe's romance route that Neon mentioned, but that didn't spark anything for me either. Thought maybe it might have to do with w/e conversation Guy & Nicki were having when Maya took that photo, but couldn't even find it. Considering this whole thing deals with Guy's subconscious, I mean, I don't know how abstract or concrete this is all supposed to be. Like, is it something directly related? Indirectly related? Related only on an abstract level if you squint hard enough?
Now, ya'll can skip all the rest of this if you're not interested, as it might not pertain to the halloween photo mystery and there's some definite conclusion jumping on my part, but.. on my quest, I did think about some things, may have found some things, all relevant to the story. It's possible others have beaten me to the punch, but I can't be assed to search... so, first, some things I may have found: I found this photo from the halloween update of a pregnant Carolina dressed as a robber and, presumably, her man dressed as a cop.
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He looks like Lucien to me. Again, this could easily be a case of limited assets being reused.
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Here's two crazy theories if it's him: 1, is he Carolina's ex? And Maya's father? Or did he just get a photo with Carolina at a party they were both at? And 2, was he a cop in the past? Or is he still a cop (could be officially undercover)? Obviously people can buy cop uniforms & wear them for halloween. Buuut.. if it's him, and he used to be a cop and so already had a uniform to use... it would conveniently explain his connections with certain corrupt officers. That could also mean his real name might be Michael. This is all probably just way off the mark, though at least it's fun to consider.
I also found this: during the Halloween update, after Guy had spoken to Mr. Price about this halloween-themed calendar, Guy is trying to think of ideas for the shoot. Nicki walks in on him and finds him looking at this image:
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And then, upon her advice to use 'real looking girls', he goes searching for inspiration from halloween photos of the girls in his life. Looking at Cassie's, he finds this:
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Notice the gloves in that pornographic photo? And then the girl's outfit, to the left of Cassie? Looks like the same girl. And Guy's sister was around that girl at a halloween party? It might even be the same halloween party where that photo was taken; well, maybe not the same building, maybe the photographer picked her up at the party and brought her to his fancy mansion or w/e. The girl in the photo, btw, her eyes look like a deer in headlights. Does she even want to be there, spreading her legs to what could very well be some creep? A creep that is potentially in the vicinity of Cassie?
Now, my thoughts about one of the story's potential themes: this is probably yet another deviation, but because one of Lucien's aliases is the same as the asshole who took nudies of Ashe on a beach, another person in this thread mentioned that Lucien may have been the one who took those photos (not the halloween photos, in case all this photo talk is getting mixed up
Whew, ok. Wall is officially complete. To those who took the time to read, thanks lol. I postponed shit I need to do to type all this out
). btw among of many Lucien's aliases there was Михаил which is translated into Michael
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Interesting PHIL101-YYouPPHard i did not even remember that hallowen photo of the guy dressed as cop, really makes one wonder if that isn't Lucien indeed. He being a cop or ex-cop would give some idea of how Lucien has been able to avoid being caught by the police.
But wasn't mentioned already in the game that Guy bought the pictures from the creepy photographer? Unless my memory is failing me (too many games to keep track).
But wasn't mentioned already in the game that Guy bought the pictures from the creepy photographer? Unless my memory is failing me (too many games to keep track).
My take on the photo mystery is thatOk, so I've spent way too much time sifting through all the game's images and some of the dialogue lol I'm not sure if I found anything of note. Here on out, beware of spoilers; I put the relevant photos in their own spoilers too so it wouldn't clog the screen when people scroll. These are all the clues I (and you all) are aware of so far:
1) Halloween photo that started all this of course; Guy found it during halloween update and then had some kind of dream related to it that was apparently very, very important. Later upon questioning, Ashe explains it was taken at the "Hirsch Home"; "It's like uh, a historic building downtown? They rent it out for parties and stuff. The Hirsch family was really involved with the city a few decades ago. Old money types. Made all their money in textiles. Nowadays they mostly keep to themselves, though."
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Guy's thoughts about that, btw: "It's not the place. Or the Hirsch family -- though you do mentally file the name away for later."
2) During Ashe's date in the jacuzzi, Guy remembers a bracelet (it appears on Ashe's wrist then disappears for the player's benefit; people thought it was a bug). It's the same bracelet she was wearing in the halloween photo.
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Ashe's choker in that halloween photo also looks (almost) exactly the same as Brit's choker she wore as a 'goth chick' during her photo shoot with Guy. That's already been mentioned multiple times in this thread by others, but don't know if that's an actual clue or if it's just a matter of limited art assets available to a game dev lol. Guy himself hasn't referenced it at all I don't think.
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Brit also wore the same bracelet, though, but Ashe mentions that the bracelet in her photo was a cheap prop; Guy figures Brit's was too. This could also rule out the choker as the same deal. They're both potentially red herrings.
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3) On Ashe's romance route, the morning after her date, she tells Guy that it might not be the photo itself, but it simply reminds him of something. This sparks him to look at the other photos and he lands on one of Cole & Bonnie adjacent to Ashe & whoever she's talking with (who himself may or may not be important?).
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Then that sparks another memory where Maya (Carolina's kid) took a photo of him & Nicki (photo was taken before this whole halloween party photo mystery began, I think? I have no recollection of it).
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He juxtaposes it with the one of Cole & Bonnie, and... I don't know, thinks it's interesting for some reason? Similar poses & perspectives, but... doesn't do anything for me.
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Anyways, that's mostly all I got regarding Ashe's halloween photo. I've looked for poses in other photos that were similar to Ashe's in her halloween one, thinking maybe if it was a photographer that was the link, maybe he (or she?) has some favorite poses he likes to request or something. Nada. I already knew about the hint on Ashe's romance route that Neon mentioned, but that didn't spark anything for me either. Thought maybe it might have to do with w/e conversation Guy & Nicki were having when Maya took that photo, but couldn't even find it. Considering this whole thing deals with Guy's subconscious, I mean, I don't know how abstract or concrete this is all supposed to be. Like, is it something directly related? Indirectly related? Related only on an abstract level if you squint hard enough?
Now, ya'll can skip all the rest of this if you're not interested, as it might not pertain to the halloween photo mystery and there's some definite conclusion jumping on my part, but.. on my quest, I did think about some things, may have found some things, all relevant to the story. It's possible others have beaten me to the punch, but I can't be assed to search... so, first, some things I may have found: I found this photo from the halloween update of a pregnant Carolina dressed as a robber and, presumably, her man dressed as a cop.
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He looks like Lucien to me. Again, this could easily be a case of limited assets being reused.
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Here's two crazy theories if it's him: 1, is he Carolina's ex? And Maya's father? Or did he just get a photo with Carolina at a party they were both at? And 2, was he a cop in the past? Or is he still a cop (could be officially undercover)? Obviously people can buy cop uniforms & wear them for halloween. Buuut.. if it's him, and he used to be a cop and so already had a uniform to use... it would conveniently explain his connections with certain corrupt officers. That could also mean his real name might be Michael. This is all probably just way off the mark, though at least it's fun to consider.
I also found this: during the Halloween update, after Guy had spoken to Mr. Price about this halloween-themed calendar, Guy is trying to think of ideas for the shoot. Nicki walks in on him and finds him looking at this image:
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And then, upon her advice to use 'real looking girls', he goes searching for inspiration from halloween photos of the girls in his life. Looking at Cassie's, he finds this:
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Notice the gloves in that pornographic photo? And then the girl's outfit, to the left of Cassie? Looks like the same girl. And Guy's sister was around that girl at a halloween party? It might even be the same halloween party where that photo was taken; well, maybe not the same building, maybe the photographer picked her up at the party and brought her to his fancy mansion or w/e. The girl in the photo, btw, her eyes look like a deer in headlights. Does she even want to be there, spreading her legs to what could very well be some creep? A creep that is potentially in the vicinity of Cassie?
Now, my thoughts about one of the story's potential themes: this is probably yet another deviation, but because one of Lucien's aliases is the same as the asshole who took nudies of Ashe on a beach, another person in this thread mentioned that Lucien may have been the one who took those photos (not the halloween photos, in case all this photo talk is getting mixed up
Whew, ok. Wall is officially complete. To those who took the time to read, thanks lol. I postponed shit I need to do to type all this out
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Maybe Ashe is actually king Arthur... loljk
I just can't see the dots, the bracelet is also in the picture Jamie took of Brittanis mom, if I remember right.
Yeah, I do too. I wish I could remember who brought it up here first, I would've credited them.I like this idea of Ashe's dad beating him up. it would also explain Ashe's reluctance to call for police if Guy happens to rape her - her dad is on probation and he would probably go off the rails if he would know about rape, also explains dad's unemployment (he is unemployed right?
Is Cole actually on probation, or just your inference? That's interesting either way.. really, really interesting! I think he's indeed unemployed, but I thought something was mentioned about a back injury or something like that? Can't remember.. wonder how long Lucien's had his bodyguard? What if his bodyguard gave Cole his back injury after Cole got the jump on Lucien?
And WOW... yep, I think that must be Lucien now. I did a dialogue search just now, and Michael was one of the aliases
For anyone curious, all of his aliases that Risa was aware of are: Chase, Michael, Byron, Terrence, & Malcolm.So, Chase was his alias with that girl he.. assaulted in the porno shoot. I tried searching the others, but I got nothing. I think Ashe mentioned one of these names in her short story or w/e, Byron seems familiar? But I never played that. Anyways, so I guess we've now just confirmed Michael was an alias he used with Carolina at some point. I only found that out through an image with a name tag, though... so maybe the other names also show up in names within images somewhere. There's no way I'm sifting through all those again, so if someone's curious, they're gonna have to do it themselves
. If someone has access to some kind of program or AI or something that can search text within images, I bet that'd help. I'm not tech savvy with that sort of stuff.. ctrl + f is the extent of my reach.Yeah, I had a thought on similar lines. I thought it was some reference to where him & Nicki could be, or maybe should be, in the future; a couple at a Halloween party with their child. Wishful thinking of the subconscious maybe. But who honestly knows? Like I said, don't know how abstract or concrete this is all supposed to be.
Personally, I think Ashe's is definitely a red herring; I think it might just be the thing that got all this started (w/e that's called in fiction writing). She confirmed to Guy that it was a prop. However, Brit's hasn't been confirmed as a fake prop; it's just Guy's assumption that it, too, must be some fake prop he obtained at some point that Brit found. armond also referenced an image of Brit's mom with the same bracelet, which I posted below, so maybe there's something there? Why would she be wearing a fake prop while getting ready to go somewhere? Either her's is the real deal, OR... could she be so vain & stupid that a guy can give her a fake prop as like some romantic 'gift', and she thinks it's real?
Or maybe she's just trying to fake wealth or something and hoping others will fall for it?Yep! Just looked, she's indeed wearing that bracelet. Good catch!Maybe Ashe is actually king Arthur... loljk
I just can't see the dots, the bracelet is also in the picture Jamie took of Brittanis mom, if I remember right.
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Either that's where Brit got hers, as you can see Brit wearing a few outfits & jewelry that we've seen her mom wear, or she got it from Guy's collection. If they really are cheap props, it makes sense that Guy would've had it in his collection.
It's possible that some bracelets are red herrings, i.e. Ashe's, as she herself confirms the bracelet is some cheap prop she bought, whereas other bracelets, i.e. Brit's & her mom's, are indicative of some connection that will render them important clues. Just more shooting in the dark lol.
Don't worry Joshy, most of this stuff I have no recollection of. I relied heavily on the dialogue script & the images themselves that I extracted
Think the halloween picture was in chp 2 or something. Ashe was showing them to him, I can't remember why, but he awoke from a dream thinking there must be something important about it. Hence this whole subplot. It keeps being brought up since then, in Ashe's date, the morning after, etc.Yeah, I think Guy bought Ashe's nude beach photos from the creepy photographer online. Guy says he found the dude's name, but he doesn't tell the audience for some reason.. as I said, I think it's revealed in Ashe's mini-story? I meant to play that, but never did, and now don't know where to get it.
If you meant the Halloween photos, they were just found online; the cop one was on Carolina's 'facespace' or w/e.
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"So Britt, I have this great idea for your next shoot.."
PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN BRO PLEASE. LIKE ATLEAST IN A DREAM SEQUENCE OR SOMETHING PLEASEEEEEE
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The vanilla version is the "clean" version for patreon called friends indeed,
and the regular version is friends in need (where you need the taboo patch to have full access to all the hardcore stuff,more brutal actions,incest fantasies,etc.)
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Vanilla is patreon, the latter is the subscribestar version.
https://f95zone.to/threads/friends-in-need-ch-9-v0-60c-neonghosts.112500/post-11130759
That's the Ashe short story if this is what you're referring to. None of the images are loading for me now though. Not sure if the links broke, the forum broke or if my browser is being weird.
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Haha, You’ll have to take that up with Neon
As for Sauce, I found it on “rape_hentai” page on Reddit.
I've just finished playing and I have to admit I had a lot of fun. Well-balanced amount of dialogue and erotic scenes. I like that you can choose if you want to take advantage of them or to just help them. How often are updates? Any ideas how big this game is going to be?
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if I recall correctly Neon said he aims for every 4 months. From the updates ive played since discovering this game took me anywhere from 1-3 hours depending the update but I tend to play / read on the slow side of things as I don't do it in 1 go.
Thx man! Yeah, images aren't loading for me either. Not sure how this website works, it might automatically delete uploaded images after a set amount of time has passed, since you're uploading it directly onto their servers. Images hosted elsewhere probably stay intact.
Think dev said he could see himself working on it for the next 5 years if that's any indication for the planned size. I believe he said there's maybe 3-4 more chapters and then this first 'season' is over (so 12-13 chapters total here); break; then moving onto the next season, which may or may not have parity with the 1st season in terms of total chapters. No idea how many seasons are planned lol... I'd guess at least 2-3?