Pr0GamerJohnny

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For me, there's a third factor. If the character models don't look good or they just look funny. It's rare but there are a few games I just stopped playing in the middle of trying them because of that factor. Most of the time, it's the opposite. The renders and designs look fantastic (or at least good enough) but the story would be written like it was done by some cringelord weeb or someone without a "voice" who just gets their writing cues from whatever is currently popular with hack writers.
oh yeah, definitely lol... geez, you gave me flashbacks. it takes SO long to find a good VN worth the time on this site that the 'urge' just fizzles out by the time you find something that's probably only above average (nothing to scoff at, mind you). im just glad ive even found as many excellent games as i have; they update regularly enough that i havent had to search for a new game in like... man... probably almost a year. i mean, i have a text file where i've built a list of 'maybes' from forever ago to check out and just go through 1 or 2 items on that list when i feel like something new (which usually ends up in the recycle bin, ofc), but i havent actually searched for a new game on this site in all that time. i should probably comb through again in case there's any new, promising ones... but i also dont want to disappoint myself and feel like i wasted my free time. first world problems i guess.. :p
I'd say it's like the old joke about 3 types of beer - warm, free, cold, and you only need 2.

I've found games are much like that with the three categories we've all mentioned. Optimally, a game has all 3 but we often find ourselves playing games with beautiful renders and good writing but crap sex COUGH OCEANLAB or alternatively, great boobies and sex but snorefest weeb dialogue. So imo most players will tolerate games with 2/3 of these things, and typically it's the dialogue than draws the short stick; which I can't fault people for, it's a helluva lot easier to hold the ctrl key down and fap to legit hot sex than bate to hours of sexless droning narratives, however brilliant they may be.

This game definitely has potential to join that 3-star-michelin-porn club, with existing members like PC, LOF, DS, BADIK.
 
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I'd say it's like the old joke about 3 types of beer - warm, free, cold, and you only need 2.

I've found games are much like that with the three categories we've all mentioned. Optimally, a game has all 3 but we often find ourselves playing games with beautiful renders and good writing but crap sex COUGH OCEANLAB or alternatively, great boobies and sex but snorefest weeb dialogue. So imo most players will tolerate games with 2/3 of these things, and typically it's the dialogue than draws the short stick; which I can't fault people for, it's a helluva lot easier to hold the ctrl key down and fap to legit hot sex than bate to hours of sexless droning narratives, however brilliant they may be.

This game definitely has potential to join that 3-star-michelin-porn club, with existing members like PC, LOF, DS.
Completely agree! It's refreshing not having to settle. I mean, repeating myself for the nth time, but I'm not even 100% certain I have a favorite character in this game, I just go on whatever ride's offered to me and get off feeling satisfied haha

Btw, what's PC & LOF?
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny

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Completely agree! It's refreshing not having to settle. I mean, repeating myself for the nth time, but I'm not even 100% certain I have a favorite character in this game, I just go on whatever ride's offered to me and get off feeling satisfied haha

Btw, what's PC & LOF?
other ones id personally include in that 3 category group; Leap of faith, desert stalker, pale carnations. I probably shoulda included badik too, but I know that's contentious..
 

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Completely agree! It's refreshing not having to settle. I mean, repeating myself for the nth time, but I'm not even 100% certain I have a favorite character in this game, I just go on whatever ride's offered to me and get off feeling satisfied haha

Btw, what's PC & LOF?
He could be meaning Pale Carnations & Leap of faith
I could be wrong tho
They are good games but I consider this superior to both of those
Just my opinion of course
 

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He could be meaning Pale Carnations & Leap of faith
I could be wrong tho
They are good games but I consider this superior to both of those
Just my opinion of course
I gave up on PC. But I agree that this game is superior to LoF.
 

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I'd say it's like the old joke about 3 types of beer - warm, free, cold, and you only need 2.

I've found games are much like that with the three categories we've all mentioned. Optimally, a game has all 3 but we often find ourselves playing games with beautiful renders and good writing but crap sex COUGH OCEANLAB or alternatively, great boobies and sex but snorefest weeb dialogue. So imo most players will tolerate games with 2/3 of these things, and typically it's the dialogue than draws the short stick; which I can't fault people for, it's a helluva lot easier to hold the ctrl key down and fap to legit hot sex than bate to hours of sexless droning narratives, however brilliant they may be.

This game definitely has potential to join that 3-star-michelin-porn club, with existing members like PC, LOF, DS, BADIK.
If it reads bad I drop it. It doesn't have to read great, but if it's unintelligible it's gone regardless of the other aspects. I'm here to read not to lead... Errr yeah.
 
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oh yeah, definitely lol... geez, you gave me flashbacks. it takes SO long to find a good VN worth the time on this site that the 'urge' just fizzles out by the time you find something that's probably only above average (nothing to scoff at, mind you). im just glad ive even found as many excellent games as i have; they update regularly enough that i havent had to search for a new game in like... man... probably almost a year. i mean, i have a text file where i've built a list of 'maybes' from forever ago to check out and just go through 1 or 2 items on that list when i feel like something new (which usually ends up in the recycle bin, ofc), but i havent actually searched for a new game on this site in all that time. i should probably comb through again in case there's any new, promising ones... but i also dont want to disappoint myself and feel like i wasted my free time. first world problems i guess.. :p
Damn, I've actually been finding that most of the games I'm following are doing like 1 update per year at this point. I've been too preoccupied anyway to actually play anything anyway (Steam sales lol) but it's kind of a bummer that there wasn't anything updated yet during my small break. Oh well, I still have this feeling that these dev cycles more or less sync at some point and that a good amount of updates will drop within the next month or two.
I'd say it's like the old joke about 3 types of beer - warm, free, cold, and you only need 2.

I've found games are much like that with the three categories we've all mentioned. Optimally, a game has all 3 but we often find ourselves playing games with beautiful renders and good writing but crap sex COUGH OCEANLAB or alternatively, great boobies and sex but snorefest weeb dialogue. So imo most players will tolerate games with 2/3 of these things, and typically it's the dialogue than draws the short stick; which I can't fault people for, it's a helluva lot easier to hold the ctrl key down and fap to legit hot sex than bate to hours of sexless droning narratives, however brilliant they may be.

This game definitely has potential to join that 3-star-michelin-porn club, with existing members like PC, LOF, DS, BADIK.
True. I guess I'm asking for too much lol. Still, it's kind of like opportunity cost with time. I could either be playing something mediocre or just do something else with my free time. Although of those three I'm willing to put up with terrible dialogue to the point where I'll just do exactly what you said, hold ctrl until I get to the good parts. Sex scenes are cool and without them it'd be like a sandwich without bread but there's something about reading a great story in these games that refreshes me. It's like the difference between a cold-cut bologna sandwich and a chicken parm sub.

It's understandable. Most people who can actually write would want to branch out into other mediums thus you get a lot of devs who just simply don't have the chops. Although, I'm not asking for Dostoevsky here. Just something passable like SG or BADIK(point of contention, I know). Which is why I get really hooked on a VN when I actually find someone who can write.
It's just that I wish the review system was a little more credible. People give 5 stars out too easily or alternatively, review bomb games for small things.

I also definitely think this game has the potential to be in that top 1% of VNs. There's honestly not much else that it needs to get there since it's already in the upper tiers and Neon's learning at a fast pace. Still, I wouldn't be able to decide between the quick updates we have now or 2 updates per year with sound, music, all those fireworks and bells and whistles that seem superfluous when devs start approaching 1 update per year.
 
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Damn, I've actually been finding that most of the games I'm following are doing like 1 update per year at this point. I've been too preoccupied anyway to actually play anything anyway (Steam sales lol) but it's kind of a bummer that there wasn't anything updated yet during my small break. Oh well, I still have this feeling that these dev cycles more or less sync at some point and that a good amount of updates will drop within the next month or two.

True. I guess I'm asking for too much lol. Still, it's kind of like opportunity cost with time. I could either be playing something mediocre or just do something else with my free time. Although of those three I'm willing to put up with terrible dialogue to the point where I'll just do exactly what you said, hold ctrl until I get to the good parts. Sex scenes are cool and without them it'd be like a sandwich without bread but there's something about reading a great story in these games that refreshes me. It's like the difference between a cold-cut bologna sandwich and a chicken parm sub.

It's understandable. Most people who can actually write would want to branch out into other mediums thus you get a lot of devs who just simply don't have the chops. Although, I'm not asking for Dostoevsky here. Just something passable like SG or BADIK(point of contention, I know). Which is why I get really hooked on a VN when I actually find someone who can write.
It's just that I wish the review system was a little more credible. People give 5 stars out too easily or alternatively, review bomb games for small things.

I also definitely think this game has the potential to be in that top 1% of VNs. There's honestly not much else that it needs to get there since it's already in the upper tiers and Neon's learning at a fast pace. Still, I wouldn't be able to decide between the quick updates we have now or 2 updates per year with sound, music, all those fireworks and bells and whistles that seem superfluous when devs start approaching 1 update per year.
yeah, my main avenue of 'satisfaction' is still just normal, regular porn. i treat these games as something a little more rare and special (because they are tbh; as ive already said, theres so many bad VNs :(), so i guess by the time im really jonesing for something with more depth than 'dick goes in butthole pov #14145', i get a nice little update from one of my games :D

also, a nice little compromise to VNs imo are camgirls (from manyvids etc.) that play out little kinky stories. they tend to have way more depth than porn ofc and they have pretty good acting actually if u find the right ones (Sydney Harwin is pretty infamous). the stories still aren't as good as the best youll find in an excellent VN and no satisfaction of choices obviously haha, but it's still decent.

that's how i tide myself over, anyways.. not that anyone asked :LOL: agree that this game is top 1%er

Hi, does anyone have a gallery?
d/l the game, extract the art with rpa extractor. alternatively, can also just play the game :p it's rlly good
 

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rip brit fans (me)
The dev knows that Brit has her fans, so at some other time I guess he'll bring her back. I also really like the other girls, so it doesn't bother me too much to wait. As long as the Dev continues to give the option of having the MC as both a good person and a piece of shit, I'm happy with that.
 
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