VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [Ch. 9 v0.60c] [NeonGhosts]

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

Of course they can. But I’m not talking about just grown men, but about mature men. And not just about insecurity, but about the friend zone. And yes, there are different forms of extremes, but I'm talking about the most common things.

Well, if 'mature' men can't get friend-zoned, then they sure as hell can't jerk off to 3d models on a virtual porn forum. Or watch cartoons. Or read comic books. Or play video games. Or buy toys figurines to display. I guess I don't get your logic, it just sounds like another version of that whole 'alpha beta' 'real men do x, not y, so I guess you're not a real man' shtick. But this obviously isn't going to go anywhere except an endless off-topic back and forth, so... agree to disagree, I guess

Anyways, just to get back to the game, since Neon mentioned Bonnie, I'm really curious now how long it'll be until we get to see her content. It'll probably be a very long time, since Neon said he wants to get out a good amount of scenes for primary LIs first. But damn, it sounds really fucking hot when it does come out...

I'm also curious about that twerp's (Gabby's and Brit's ex-bf) hot little helper. I've been excited about her, but she's another one that'll probably be quite a long time before we see content with her Brit's mom, too. If only I could clone Neon for faster content, I would

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

willing to try this wholesome path to navigate how branching into love path is going foward. Also
if Nicki is going to Idolize Mc futher into Friends path, I loved how she feels inadequate of MC love after her mistakes, and would like to explore a submission esque Nicki without dark themes, just good misguided affection, Opening a cuckqueen scenario.
A man can dream right.

If you're in the dark path enjoyer club, don't forget that even the wholesome romance and friend routes are opportunities to hop onto alternative versions of the dark/corruption routes

For example, on Ashe's most recent date, you can be her perfect prince charming up to that point, and then you can give her the shock of her life by drugging and graping her (need to find the drugs in the library restroom first from an earlier chp)... it's a different perspective than the pure dark route and has its own very interesting querks. Or, if you want to be less extreme, you can also just be a toxic asshole to her and manipulate her along the way as well.

There's soooo many possibilities that people are forgetting here I think because they're used to playing other less complex games. No route is really very permanent unless you want it to be (within reason, ofc), at least for now anyways.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if at least one dark route for one character can lead to a romance route over an extended period of good boy behavior from MC. Even for just one character, that would be morbidly fascinating to watch from a character perspective!

 

[Bombmaster]

If you're in the dark path enjoyer club, don't forget that even the wholesome romance and friend routes are opportunities to hop onto alternative versions of the dark/corruption routes

For example, on Ashe's most recent date, you can be her perfect prince charming up to that point, and then you can give her the shock of her life by drugging and graping her (need to find the drugs in the library restroom first from an earlier chp)... it's a different perspective than the pure dark route and has its own very interesting querks. Or, if you want to be less extreme, you can also just be a toxic asshole to her and manipulate her along the way as well.

There's soooo many possibilities that people are forgetting here I think because they're used to playing other less complex games. No route is really very permanent unless you want it to be (within reason, ofc), at least for now anyways.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if at least one dark route for one character can lead to a romance route over an extended period of good boy behavior from MC. Even for just one character, that would be morbidly fascinating to watch from a character perspective!

Man youre after my heart scoundrel, Is like into Viola Path, You can be a prince "Projecting" Not enough content yet, But probably will be possible to be her savior or just throw money be my slut slavic girl, abuse her a little...
Or going all the way breaking all morals, and having only a transaction going foward.
Is a harsh mistress imagining How much work is going to be! almost three variants paths for every Main girl.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

Man youre after my heart scoundrel, Is like into Viola Path, You can be a prince "Projecting" Not enough content yet, But probably will be possible to be her savior or just throw money be my slut slavic girl, abuse her a little...
Or going all the way breaking all morals, and having only a transaction going foward.
Is a harsh mistress imagining How much work is going to be! almost three variants paths for every Main girl.

Haha, yeah definitely man. Viola's pure dark route ends where it began, but I have a hope that dark pathers won't truly have seen the last dark action against her, as long as they're willing to try other routes too. That's of course if Neon continues to believe that's worth his effort. He may have decided after this last Ashe update that he's going to simplify things going forward, which is simultaneously a boon and a bummer.

And after all, we can't forget that the Ashe romance date grape probably only happened because the renders were also used for the pure dark route, so it was a very efficient use of assets from his perspective. If Viola's dark route is truly over (and Neon has confirmed it is unless he changes his mind), adding another grape scene for her would be much less worth his time because only a niche romance-onto-dark path or corruption-onto-dark path would utilize it basically.

My hope is that he'll find the time (and desire) to pepper occasional grape "ramps" into character's normal paths every so often. There's something about the first grape in a setting of wholesome innocence that's arousing, when the character doesn't remotely see it coming (I know that sounds really fucked up, but I promise I'm innocent and normal in rl! I'm only a POS when it comes to virtual people). A mid-romance grape here, a mid-corruption money-into-flowers-into-romance there keeps things fresh and interesting, but it also adds its own workload. I definitely don't envy Neon

 

[NeonGhosts]

Little FYI: I'm trying something new with my Friday "Sneak Peek" feature on Patreon and SubStar. For a while now I've used it as kind of a bonus weekly check-in for $5+ members. But this week I wanted to try something a little different, and uploaded a snippet of the next chapter. It's very short. Like, 30 renders and a couple minutes worth of dialogue. But, it'll give players a glimpse of what's to come.

 

[Dessolos]

Little FYI: I'm trying something new with my Friday "Sneak Peek" feature on Patreon and SubStar. For a while now I've used it as kind of a bonus weekly check-in for $5+ members. But this week I wanted to try something a little different, and uploaded a snippet of the next chapter. It's very short. Like, 30 renders and a couple minutes worth of dialogue. But, it'll give players a glimpse of what's to come.

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Actually really like that idea especially for games I cant wait for updates like this one

 

[Bombmaster]

Haha, yeah definitely man. Viola's pure dark route ends where it began, but I have a hope that dark pathers won't truly have seen the last dark action against her, as long as they're willing to try other routes too. That's of course if Neon continues to believe that's worth his effort. He may have decided after this last Ashe update that he's going to simplify things going forward, which is simultaneously a boon and a bummer.

And after all, we can't forget that the Ashe romance date grape probably only happened because the renders were also used for the pure dark route, so it was a very efficient use of assets from his perspective. If Viola's dark route is truly over (and Neon has confirmed it is unless he changes his mind), adding another grape scene for her would be much less worth his time because only a niche romance-onto-dark path or corruption-onto-dark path would utilize it basically.

My hope is that he'll find the time (and desire) to pepper occasional grape "ramps" into character's normal paths every so often. There's something about the first grape in a setting of wholesome innocence that's arousing, when the character doesn't remotely see it coming (I know that sounds really fucked up, but I promise I'm innocent and normal in rl! I'm only a POS when it comes to virtual people). A mid-romance grape here, a mid-corruption money-into-flowers-into-romance there keeps things fresh and interesting, but it also adds its own workload. I definitely don't envy Neon

Yes, totally get you man. The sleep fun with Ashe was lit and veery wrong, chuckle. the forceful sex with similar renders as you mentioned is less interessing to my enjoyment. talking about grape Juice, I do hope the "Opportunities" to be bad have different resolutions with each girl, Different kinks and perversions for each would be chef kiss.

Also if NeonGOD is not a ghost anymore, give us the sister we have been teased/mentioned i can truly stan with pride. as im fucking sucker for cest action.

Yeah yeah no tag, taking even roommates shenanigans, already into bargaining mode heh!

 

[Joshy92]

Ashe is trying her hardest to get me to fall in love with her
And by god its working

Don't worry Ashe honey I'll add you to the list

 

[LuciferPrometheus]

I played the first two and half chapters and I have just one question. Whether I play this game or not might depend on the answer I guess.

Can you tell Nikki to go fuck herself? Like I mean not give her money or anything just ask her to take a hike. Can you do that? Because not only do I not care for her, her being in a scene actively makes me want to hit the skip button until she isn't.

 

[Dessolos]

I played the first two and half chapters and I have just one question. Whether I play this game or not might depend on the answer I guess.

Can you tell Nikki to go fuck herself? Like I mean not give her money or anything just ask her to take a hike. Can you do that? Because not only do I not care for her, her being in a scene actively makes me want to hit the skip button until she isn't.

Didn't think anyone can hate Nicki to this degree after finding how out broken, naive and desperate she is after her explanation. Just goes to show im too nice of a person if she left a good enough impression to be on my top 5 LI list across all AVN's.

But to answer your questions it's a yes and no. If you play the dark path towards Nicki with the patch ( might be able to even without the patch unsure) she will leave at the end of the latest update. Which means you have to put up with her for a bit

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

I played the first two and half chapters and I have just one question. Whether I play this game or not might depend on the answer I guess.

Can you tell Nikki to go fuck herself? Like I mean not give her money or anything just ask her to take a hike. Can you do that? Because not only do I not care for her, her being in a scene actively makes me want to hit the skip button until she isn't.

 

[soprano31]

I played the first two and half chapters and I have just one question. Whether I play this game or not might depend on the answer I guess.

Can you tell Nikki to go fuck herself? Like I mean not give her money or anything just ask her to take a hike. Can you do that? Because not only do I not care for her, her being in a scene actively makes me want to skip it until she isn't.

Just play the best darkest path that suits her,
keep humiliating her as hard as you can,treat her as rough and hard as you can,
and eventually she'll leave..

 

[LuciferPrometheus]

Didn't think anyone can hate Nicki to this degree after finding how out broken, naive and desperate she is after her explanation. Just goes to show im too nice of a person if she left a good enough impression to be on my top 5 LI list across all AVN's.

But to answer your questions it's a yes and no. If you play the dark path towards Nicki with the patch ( might be able to even without the patch unsure) she will leave at the end of the latest update. Which means you have to put up with her for a bit

It's just that there's no build up. The game same she's your bestfriend or was your bestfriend and is great person or whatever, but I just don't give a shit about her.

In fact I liked the museum girl more by far. Hell, even the bookstore girl was nice. She was rude at first but once you get to know her you realise end of day she's just a kid and is actually pretty cool. I'm glad that you didn't have to have sex with her and could choose to be just a good guy (even though MC's inner dialogue wasn't as wholesome).

I just wish there was an option to say no to sex with Nikki.

 

[Dessolos]

It's just that there's no build up. The game same she's your bestfriend or was your bestfriend and is great person or whatever, but I just don't give a shit about her.

In fact I liked the museum girl more by far. Hell, even the bookstore girl was nice. She was rude at first but once you get to know her you realise end of day she's just a kid and is actually pretty cool. I'm glad that you didn't have to have sex with her and could choose to be just a good guy (even though MC's inner dialogue wasn't as wholesome).

I just wish there was an option to say no to sex with Nikki.

fair enough not wanting to have sex with her honestly I just wanted to be a friend for her my first time by just giving her the money without sex till she showed up again that changed my opinion of her alot. Which is gonna be a thing in a future update ( Rework of Chapter 1)also well I heard show off their friendship a bit more. You post just took me by surprise cause I would want to at least help her and be a friends towards her even if I had no interest but that's cause im a bit too nice I guess.

 

[LuciferPrometheus]

fair enough not wanting to have sex with her honestly I just wanted to be a friend for her my first time by just giving her the money without sex till she showed up again that changed my opinion of her alot. Which is gonna be a thing in a future update ( Rework of Chapter 1)also well I heard show off their friendship a bit more. You post just took me by surprise cause I would want to at least help her and be a friends towards her even if I had no interest but that's cause im a bit too nice I guess.

Yeah I'd have given her the money too because she helped the mc in the past in however little ways she could. I just wanted to give it to her no strings attached. Even though it kinda pissed me off that she pretended she didn't know about the money and was just there to hang out.

But after that one when she goes and gets her life fucked again, at that point I didn't give a shit anymore. Magnanimity has it's limits as well.

 

[Dessolos]

Yeah I'd have given her the money too because she helped the mc in the past in however little ways she could. I just wanted to give it to her no strings attached. Even though it kinda pissed me off that she pretended she didn't know about the money and was just there to hang out.

But after that one when she goes and gets her life fucked again, at that point I didn't give a shit anymore. Magnanimity has it's limits as well.

I understand that point of view I may not agree with you since part of it was out of her control cause of her ex boyfriend and she was stupid. Then she seemed like she was scared to ask for more help and just spiraled. Which I can understand not wanting to ask someone for more help after them helping you alot already. Which to me showed she was willing to fuck her life up to not take advantage of the MC even tho he would of helped 100%.

When she showed up again she wasnt even asking for money this time which is why I kind of disagree with you here. Granted we get no player choice in the manner but because she was just looking for a place to stay for a night or 2 didn't really seem like it was being too nice or anything. Since it was the MC's idea to give her a job as a way to giver her money since from what I recall she wasnt asking for anything more than a place to sleep for a few days.

Sure I will give you her cutting contact with him hurt the MC and was stupid because she was scared. But after her explanation I can understand the why. Again this probably comes down to me being too nice.

 

[hu lover]

This game has great rendered characters with good story lines for each character.

 

[LuciferPrometheus]

I understand that point of view I may not agree with you since part of it was out of her control cause of her ex boyfriend and she was stupid. Then she seemed like she was scared to ask for more help and just spiraled. Which I can understand not wanting to ask someone for more help after them helping you alot already. Which to me showed she was willing to fuck her life up to not take advantage of the MC even tho he would of helped 100%.

When she showed up again she wasnt even asking for money this time which is why I kind of disagree with you here. Granted we get no player choice in the manner but because she was just looking for a place to stay for a night or 2 didn't really seem like it was being too nice or anything. Since it was the MC's idea to give her a job as a way to giver her money since from what I recall she wasnt asking for anything more than a place to sleep for a few days.

Sure I will give you her cutting contact with him hurt the MC and was stupid because she was scared. But after her explanation I can understand the why. Again this probably comes down to me being too nice.

Yeah I guess when you hate a character everything about them is grating. Like how she says "man" even other sentence. Although I guess that's the writing.

At this point I'm just being unreasonable lmao.

 

[GokutheG]

It's just that there's no build up. The game same she's your bestfriend or was your bestfriend and is great person or whatever, but I just don't give a shit about her.

In fact I liked the museum girl more by far. Hell, even the bookstore girl was nice. She was rude at first but once you get to know her you realise end of day she's just a kid and is actually pretty cool. I'm glad that you didn't have to have sex with her and could choose to be just a good guy (even though MC's inner dialogue wasn't as wholesome).

I just wish there was an option to say no to sex with Nikki.

I think that's what the upcoming remake of the first chapter aims to address. A problem I've seen that some writers struggle with is trying to get the player to care about a character the same way the mc does. Like how ME3 tried to say that Shepard was so traumatized by the death of a random kid in a vent who didn't want to take the help she offered. There was no time spent developing the relationship in order to justify the emotional attachment that they want you to feel. Now compared to the start of The Last of Us that actually took the time to build up the relationship between the two characters I actually cried when the game began proper.

 

[Joshy92]

I could never hate Nicki
She is the reason I even tried the game in the first place
She is beautiful and you can tell she is a really kind person
I find that hot