VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [Mini-Sode: Blue Valentine] [NeonGhosts]

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

Not gonna lie, she's definitely up there in the rankings but the scene her made me feel like she'll always just being playing a character and not actually want to do those things herself.

Hmm. Yes, yes, I see.

Yea, I'll need to see what Neon brings us in the next update to see just how kinky Ashe can get. Otherwise, I think Brittani has a lot more potential to be that kind of character. Although, like I said before unless a relationship develops it'll just feel like she's playing a role. Which is still hot but not the quite the same.

You can get Brittani to open up about herself a little in the bedroom after the photoshoot. She'll get out of acting mode and just be herself. It's very sweet Apparently, she likes it up the butt, or something lol. I know dirt road surfing isn't nearly as taboo these days, but it's still definitely my perfect kind of naughty

 

[Joshy92]

How many sex scenes have you guys seen so far?
I think I have seen two or maybe three.
I like that they aren't the focus they are there to support the story imo.

 

[NeonGhosts]

I think you're lying about the dumb-dumb part, because the speed at which you evolve is insane. How long did it take you to get a little comfortable using Daz? How long did you work on the first release of FiN?

I want to make my own game at some point, too. Downloaded Daz, got overwhelmed and closed it after playing around for 10 minutes. Reading your comments makes me want to try again. I'm confident in the writing and coding, but when it comes to the visuals I'm just not that optimistic, lol.

On the topic of voicing the game: I like the idea and I'd be curious in what context you'd like to do it. ClassyLemon does it in his cinematic scenes where it highlights the gravity of either the situation or the character's convictions/feelings.

Generally, my personal experience with voices in games wasn't all that good though. There's either loud background noise in the sound file that doesn't match the current situation or other things that don't belong there. I think we all got our ears blown out once or twice by some sharp noise, too. Or, the classic: some audio from porn that doesn't fit the situation / character at all just shoehorned in there.

The sound file you attached was enough for me to be able to read viola's lines in that person's voice. She sounds nice.

Aw jeez, I don't think I was really comfortable with Daz until Chapter 3 of FiN. And I don't think I was very good at it until Chapter Four. Honestly, if you want to pick it up again I'd just download some free HDRIs from

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of standing poses (because it's huge and flexible in use), and experiment with posing and lighting characters. Once you can do that, you've got Daz 90% figured out. The other 10% is just stuff like experimenting with ghost lights, camera depth of field, using shaders, etc.

I'm kind of thinking that if I do voices, it'll probably be something like.. The first time the character appears, you'll get a little snippet of conversation. Just enough to establish the voice. And yeah, I'm honestly not a huuuuge fan of music/SFX/voices in VNs, but I think it's something that, if implemented well, definitely adds another level of polish/production value to a game.

And as for the real-life Viola, she matches her fictional counterpart in being profoundly good-natured and endearing.

 

[zeph19]

Aw jeez, I don't think I was really comfortable with Daz until Chapter 3 of FiN. And I don't think I was very good at it until Chapter Four. Honestly, if you want to pick it up again I'd just download some free HDRIs from

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, get

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of standing poses (because it's huge and flexible in use), and experiment with posing and lighting characters. Once you can do that, you've got Daz 90% figured out. The other 10% is just stuff like experimenting with ghost lights, camera depth of field, using shaders, etc.

I'm kind of thinking that if I do voices, it'll probably be something like.. The first time the character appears, you'll get a little snippet of conversation. Just enough to establish the voice. And yeah, I'm honestly not a huuuuge fan of music/SFX/voices in VNs, but I think it's something that, if implemented well, definitely adds another level of polish/production value to a game.

And as for the real-life Viola, she matches her fictional counterpart in being profoundly good-natured and endearing.

First of all, thank you very much for the advice, I will 100% try this out. It's difficult to find a starting point with these things, so this is greatly appreciated.

I like the idea and it's a great compromise if you don't enjoy voices/sounds in general. It's enough to add (even more) life to your characters while it won't add much to your regular workload once they're all in. And just like you say, it does add production value. Definitely does in ProjP.

Have a nice rest of your Sunday. Cheers!

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Oh for sure. I'm experimenting with some tracks right now.

As for 'Viola's' accent, my friend is a native Russian speaker who only speaks very little English, so.. 'Bout as close to realism as I can actually get on that front. :'D

I was wondering that because of the accent. Nice to have the confirmation.

 

[allanl9020142]

You can get Brittani to open up about herself a little in the bedroom after the photoshoot. She'll get out of acting mode and just be herself. It's very sweet Apparently, she likes it up the butt, or something lol. I know dirt road surfing isn't nearly as taboo these days, but it's still definitely my perfect kind of naughty

Well yea, I no doubt like the character. That's why she's in my top 3.

 

[Master of Puppets]

And as for the real-life Viola, she matches her fictional counterpart in being profoundly good-natured and endearing.

It must be pretty weird having a girl based on you in a game that goes to such dark places as this one does.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

Well yea, I no doubt like the character. That's why she's in my top 3.

Sorry, you seemed like you thought Brittani was only ever acting in her sexy scenes. I was trying to say there was one in her bedroom where you can see her actual self come through. There's so much in this game that gets missed by people because there's so many 'sub-routes', wasn't sure if maybe you'd missed it.

It must be pretty weird having a girl based on you in a game that goes to such dark places as this one does.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking lol... hm, some people are really open even to darker sexual fantasies. I mean, there are women out there who've fantasized about rape before... I've never met one (to my knowledge..) but, evidently, they're out there lol

 

[soldano]

The truth is that the sound in a VN doesn't give a damn to me. In fact, when a VN has sound, I mute it. For example, Special Request comes to mind, which I ended up tired of hearing the "Oh my god!". Music doesn't bring me anything, but it doesn't bother me. But the voices are usually annoying.

 

[Master of Puppets]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking lol... hm, some people are really open even to darker sexual fantasies. I mean, there are women out there who've fantasized about rape before... I've never met one (to my knowledge..) but, evidently, they're out there lol

I've read that it's actually the most common fetish that woman have, but I don't know just how common it is, just that it's supposedly more common than any other individual fetish.

 

[Joshy92]

I just did another playthrough.
And I really like the scene where You can have Brittani degrade you when she pretends to be Pepper
I hope there is more scenes like that in the future.

 

[NeonGhosts]

It must be pretty weird having a girl based on you in a game that goes to such dark places as this one does.

She reads hentai, so there's not a lot that weirds her out.

I should also clarify that, when I say a character is based on someone, that's all verrrry loosely based. I tend to use people I know, or occasionally famous people, as starting points. I've mentioned before that there's a real-life Nicki, a real-life Ashe, a real-life Mason.. But, the ratio of reality to fiction is different for all of them, and usually they end up being a combination of a few people, with a healthy dose of drama and exaggeration thrown in.

I just did another playthrough.
And I really like the scene where You can have Brittani degrade you when she pretends to be Pepper
I hope there is more scenes like that in the future.

That was definitely intended as a little teaser for what we can expect on Pepper's love path. I'm not super into femdom, but I want to have it represented, and Pep feels like the natural choice.

 

[Master of Puppets]

That was definitely intended as a little teaser for what we can expect on Pepper's love path. I'm not super into femdom, but I want to have it represented, and Pep feels like the natural choice.

I hope that that will be optional, as I'm not into that at all. And "femdom = degradation" is an incredibly annoying cliche.

 

[SlapE]

I don't mind some light femdom, where the woman takes control and is a bit more assertive and even some light restraints (like being handcuffed to the bed), but humiliation, stepping on, tying up, pegging, whipping/spanking, etc... stuff like that is a turn off for me. If any of this is the case with pepper, that will be sad for me, since I really like Pepper, but at least every other LI has been to my liking so far regardless. Anyways, I'm excited for the update, and can't wait to see more Ashe.

 

[Joshy92]

I'm kind of in the middle when it comes to humiliation.
I don't care for stuff like being spanked or tied up.
But if a girl calls me things like pathetic or worthless
Well that just turns me on makes me want to please her even more lol.

 

[TigerWolfe]

I'm kind of in the middle when it comes to humiliation.
I don't care for stuff like being spanked or tied up.
But if a girl calls me things like pathetic or worthless
Well that just turns me on makes me want to please her even more lol.

I'm in the don't hurt me don't degrade me, but boss me around to your heart's content camp. Although were I in that culture I think I'd be a switch so I'm open to a lot if it'll pleasure my partner.

 

[hysepReC]

How many sex scenes have you guys seen so far?
I think I have seen two or maybe three.
I like that they aren't the focus they are there to support the story imo.

All of 'em except for the rape scenes.

I did play the first rape scene with Nicki because she deserved it to see what it was like and decided that part of the game wasn't for me. I don't mind a bit of non-con if the girl ends up liking it but seeing her crying and begging the MC to stop was a bit too much for my tastes. I also tried the "nice" blackmail route with her which was pretty hot but when she returns later, the game acts like you just gave her the money so i'm gonna stick with the total nice guy route from now on because that was a bit immersion breaking.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

I'm kind of in the middle when it comes to humiliation.
I don't care for stuff like being spanked or tied up.
But if a girl calls me things like pathetic or worthless
Well that just turns me on makes me want to please her even more lol.

Yeah, I think I'm kinda mixed there too. I never really thought about how something like femdom can itself be really varied and not just a cluster of a few things that all femdom enjoyers share, but I guess the comments basically bear that out.

Personally, I think I like verbal humiliation and degradation to some degree, but there's a lot about femdom that I don't like. I still prefer being dominant in some respect if that makes sense... like, yeah, call me pathetic loser all you want, that turns me on, but also who has their face on the dirty floor and their ass in the air right now? Those sorts of juxtapositions really get me hot and bothered. I guess a lot of things that feel depraved, maybe is how I would describe it. Maybe what I just described is not femdom, maybe it's more maledom, but with a fiesty girl trying (and maybe failing) to regain dominance in the situation, I don't know. Maybe what I really like there is the dominance tug-of-war? But anyways, that's why I like Pepper; she feels like the best candidate for those kinds of encounters haha.

Oh, and repressed love... I guess that's also a potential form of femdom.. the old hentai tsundere classic... I've definitely seen it overdone where it feels forced and just annoying, but when done right, it's really very enduring and actually adorable.

That was definitely intended as a little teaser for what we can expect on Pepper's love path. I'm not super into femdom, but I want to have it represented, and Pep feels like the natural choice.

Just out of curiosity, given how it seems femdom can involve a variety of things (rather than just one thing, like piss fetish or something) that either turn people on or turn people off, how exactly will her femdom come through? Will the MC get to push back on certain things and sort of have some hand in how she 'abuses' the player? Or is it more of a one-size-fits-all kind of thing? That's cool, ofc, given how many paths and characters there already are; and hey, I'm all for giving some of your femdom fans what they crave, game isn't just designed for a few types of people after all. I'm just curious how extreme the domming will be, and how submissive the player will have to be in order to stay on her love path. I'm guessing it's mostly just tsundere kinda stuff? I don't wanna suck on her toes or anything like that, but being bossed around sounds kinda hot, especially if I get to push back a little right before we have an intense grudgefuck to ease the tension. "Ugh...eurgh... euh... alright, now get off me loser" *neatens uniform into presentable form* "One of my tables has been waiting for 15 minutes"

 

[NeonGhosts]

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tldr; 500ish images done, trying to finish Ashe's scenes this week. Isn't she cuuuuute?

Just out of curiosity, given how it seems femdom can involve a variety of things (rather than just one thing, like piss fetish or something) that either turn people on or turn people off, how exactly will her femdom come through? Will the MC get to push back on certain things and sort of have some hand in how she 'abuses' the player? Or is it more of a one-size-fits-all kind of thing? That's cool, ofc, given how many paths and characters there already are; and hey, I'm all for giving some of your femdom fans what they crave, game isn't just designed for a few types of people after all. I'm just curious how extreme the domming will be, and how submissive the player will have to be in order to stay on her love path. I'm guessing it's mostly just tsundere kinda stuff? I don't wanna suck on her toes or anything like that, but being bossed around sounds kinda hot, especially if I get to push back a little right before we have an intense grudgefuck to ease the tension. "Ugh...eurgh... euh... alright, now get off me loser" *neatens uniform into presentable form* "One of my tables has been waiting for 15 minutes"

I'd say the tsundere thing will be more like it than anything. I think I talked about this on the Patreon months ago, but I kind of conceived of Pepper after getting really into the anime Toradora, which prominently features a tsundere character. And in keeping with the idea that the game needs to appeal first and foremost to me, and that I'm not into super harsh femdom stuff, I think it's safe to say that Pepper won't be peeing in the player's mouth or anything.

Buuuuut, even as a dude whose proclivities are firmly in the dom camp, I find reasons to venture outside it and be on the receiving end, from time to time. I've been slapped, I've let a girl spit in my mouth, I've been tied up, etc. Not stuff I'm super into, but compromise is part of being in a relationship. Most girls don't love anal, but some do it because their dude likes it and they want to make them happy.

Pepper's clearly dealing with something, and she might need to feel like she's in control for a while, in order to feel safe. If the player doesn't want to indulge her, that's fine, but they may not have the best possible route with her.

I mean, y'all know how I write by now. I'm all about giving people options, and creating interesting dynamics. It's not like I'm going to railroad anyone into getting pegged or something. But, a scene where Pepper asks to tie MC up and ride him while she pulls his hair and digs her fingernails into him? Or where he can refuse and take control, making her less happy? Sure, sounds like something I'd do!

 

[allanl9020142]

Sorry, you seemed like you thought Brittani was only ever acting in her sexy scenes. I was trying to say there was one in her bedroom where you can see her actual self come through. There's so much in this game that gets missed by people because there's so many 'sub-routes', wasn't sure if maybe you'd missed it.

Nah what I meant was that so far, the only "kinky" scenes we've seen for Brittani are when she's more or less playing a role. When she's herself, it's pretty vanilla for the most part. I'm of course talking about the only scene of her we've seen so far and the different options. The option with her actual self was a lot less kinky compared to the other options. I'm not saying that makes her worse than Ashe. What I am saying is that makes her less freaky than Ashe. Which was the basis of my question: Ashe vs Brittani, who's kinkier?

To me, it seems like you can develop a romantic relationship with Brittani and she'll be more comfortable being herself which may mean less "freaky". Or you can just do the freaky stuff, she'll play along, but you'll most likely not develop a deep relationship with her. I'm just assuming that's how it'll be based off of the different paths you can go down for some of the other characters. Some of them open up to Guy depending on he treats them.

However with Ashe, she likes it kinky and that's who she is. And that's a beautiful thing. It's like having your cake and eating it too.