VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [Mini-Sode: Blue Valentine] [NeonGhosts]

[Dessolos]

Hey dude I think you talked once about the LI not being perfect and having flaws I'm curious what flaws you consider Nicki & Mason to have.

I'm tyring to think of some but I can't but that could also be because I'm biased or something.

I know you were asking Neon but thought this was something interesting to think about

Personally I would say one of Nicki's flaws is being too trusting and taken advantage like what brent did to her and put her in tough situation. Where she had again trusted a stranger online just to get some money. Then again when she walked into a the studio which turned to be a porno shoot.

Then I say she has self doubt and worth issues where she doesn't think she is worth a damn because of bad decisions she made in the past like how she didn't think she was worthy of guys love for example because of how she lost the 20k.

 

[Joshy92]

I know you were asking Neon but thought this was something interesting to think about

Personally I would say one of Nicki's flaws is being too trusting and taken advantage like what brent did to her and put her in tough situation. Where she had again trusted a stranger online just to get some money. Then again when she walked into a the studio which turned to be a porno shoot.

Then I say she has self doubt and worth issues where she doesn't think she is worth a damn because of bad decisions she made in the past like how she didn't think she was worthy of guys love for example because of how she lost the 20k.

I like hearing other people's perspectives about the girls. I know I often simp hard for women because they are so perfect but I don't really see any flaws in Nicki, Mason or most of them honestly.

 

[Pixillin']

I like hearing other people's perspectives about the girls. I know I often simp hard for women because they are so perfect but I don't really see any flaws in Nicki, Mason or most of them honestly.

I think all of them have flaws, but not ones I can't live with. Nicki is a bit too trusting (and/or maybe a bit of a sub at heart) and she does have self respect/self esteem issues and pretty much all the others have something but that's part of the game. We either exploit them and their issues or we help them or a bit of both.

 

[NebulousShooter]

Nicki and I would bond in our mutual hatred of Risa

 

[PyoT]

From what I understand one of the major differences is that you’ll be able to give her the money but not have sex with her. I can see that being a good thing if you don’t want a sexual relationship with Nicki (just want to remain friends). I hope there’s also an option to say “Yes, I want to but not like this - only when you’re single, and only when you want to do it without the money. Our first time isn’t going to be because I paid you."

That feels more like deflating the entire tension and making the setup boring ^^#

Oh well. Let's see.

 

[Pixillin']

That feels more like deflating the entire tension and making the setup boring ^^#

Oh well. Let's see.

Neon said there was some other stuff he wanted to fix too, about their prior relationship and dialogue + he’s fixing the art.

 

[NebulousShooter]

“Yes, I want to but not like this - only when you’re single, and only when you want to do it without the money. Our first time isn’t going to be because I paid you."

This is what I wish for, because is the thing I would do if I was in Guy' shoes in that type of situation. But, ultimately I hate forced sex scenes in AVNs in principle.

 

[Joshy92]

You guys know what Guy was saying here right?

Spoiler

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'Why yes I would like pineapple added to my pizza'

 

[soprano31]

Why yes I would like pineapple added to my pizza'

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

This is the scene I was talking about everyone

Spoiler: Nicki

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I know it's a porn game but damn the feelings I had here were strong.

"I need help.."
Ironically, the favorite thing to hear for both romancers and dark path enjoyers

But speaking of favorite romantic scenes (because sexy scenes are all of them, really), I gotta say the most recent one with Gabby is my favorite so far I think. The way she nursed his bruise, how Neon described her scent, very immersive and enduring. Every Gabby scene, I'm wondering what's wrong with all ya'll who don't like her as a LI

Others I loved that were close seconds were Pepper also nursing Guy's bruise and cooking for him at the restaurant ; and anything with Carolina & Brit really.. something about the way they're written makes every encounter feel like a sweet flirtation.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

I get it, but to me what they represent is that Nicki was willing to have someone literally, physically alter "who she was" even though she could look for other options instead. That's not fighting hard, but if anything, quite the opposite -- choosing to compromise your values for an easier out.

I think that's the point of her arc, though. For a very long time, with Brent, florida man, and now Guy depending on how you treat her, she's let herself get run over by various men in her life. I think Neon is planning for her to arc away from that and rediscover who she really is and why it's worth fighting for. A lot of people genuinely have this issue, btw, letting themselves be molded by others, even those with clearly bad intentions. We humans are complicated

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

>_>

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Neon my man, this is stunning and perfect awooga

But, why is there a floating ring on the left, and what in god's name happened to her clam!?

 

[Echoesinthedarkness]

and what in god's name happened to her clam!?

well if you took anal only options for her, then her functionality largely doesnt change

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

well if you took anal only options for her, then her functionality largely doesnt change

Good point, good point. But now you have me worried about whether her starfish has been Barbie-fied as well!? Whose farts am I gonna snicker at besides my own now?

 

[Echoesinthedarkness]

Good point, good point. But now you have me worried about whether her starfish has been Barbie-fied as well!? Whose farts am I gonna snicker at besides my own now?

thats where Mason comes into play

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

thats where Mason comes into play

The anal, or the farting? Or.. both?

 

[ffive]

The anal, or the farting? Or.. both?

 

[NeonGhosts]

Neon my man, this is stunning and perfect awooga

But, why is there a floating ring on the left, and what in god's name happened to her clam!?

Wait, you guys don't see my new John Cena model wearing a cockring?? As for her anatomy, I was doing this render for a supporter who wanted it, so I may have cut a few corners.. :'D

Hey dude I think you talked once about the LI not being perfect and having flaws I'm curious what flaws you consider Nicki & Mason to have.

I'm tyring to think of some but I can't but that could also be because I'm biased or something.

I think Nicki's biggest failing is her people-pleasing nature. Guy points it out last chapter, asking why she put up with Brent. She says something about being overly forgiving, due to how she grew up. If you pull together a few disparate remarks about/from Nicki, you can kind of assemble a picture of why she is like she is. She points out that she didn't have anyone to turn to aside from Guy, because she can't ask her family for help. She tells Maya that she has three brothers. Owen (Mr. Rhodenbarr's guard/body man) details a file he assembled on Nicki, which says both of her parents are both in prison. And of course she's able to forgive Dark Guy for being a real piece of shit.

I don't like to lay out too much stuff in posts like this, because sometimes my feelings/ideas change as I'm working on the story, and things I said on blog posts or message boards don't match what eventually ends up in the game. Plus, everyone has their own headcanon for characters. But, in my mind Nicki grew up in a very chaotic household, where she was likely abused by a family member. This causes her to subconsciously seek out men that are controlling and/or abusive. Maybe because it's familiar to her, or maybe because giving up a certain amount of control allows her to abdicate responsibility for when things in her life go wrong.

Her path with Good-to-Grey Guy is all about learning to take responsibility for herself, and build healthy boundaries.

Mason's biggest failing is that he's a furry.



Just jokes, fur-fans! <3

 

[Joshy92]

Wait, you guys don't see my new John Cena model wearing a cockring?? As for her anatomy, I was doing this render for a supporter who wanted it, so I may have cut a few corners.. :'D



I think Nicki's biggest failing is her people-pleasing nature. Guy points it out last chapter, asking why she put up with Brent. She says something about being overly forgiving, due to how she grew up. If you pull together a few disparate remarks about/from Nicki, you can kind of assemble a picture of why she is like she is. She points out that she didn't have anyone to turn to aside from Guy, because she can't ask her family for help. She tells Maya that she has three brothers. Owen (Mr. Rhodenbarr's guard/body man) details a file he assembled on Nicki, which says both of her parents are both in prison. And of course she's able to forgive Dark Guy for being a real piece of shit.

I don't like to lay out too much stuff in posts like this, because sometimes my feelings/ideas change as I'm working on the story, and things I said on blog posts or message boards don't match what eventually ends up in the game. Plus, everyone has their own headcanon for characters. But, in my mind Nicki grew up in a very chaotic household, where she was likely abused by a family member. This causes her to subconsciously seek out men that are controlling and/or abusive. Maybe because it's familiar to her, or maybe because giving up a certain amount of control allows her to abdicate responsibility for when things in her life go wrong.

Her path with Good-to-Grey Guy is all about learning to take responsibility for herself, and build healthy boundaries.

Mason's biggest failing is that he's a furry.

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Just jokes, fur-fans! <3

Thank's man. I know you're a busy dude, and I appreciate you taking time to talk about these things with us.

For me, one of the most interesting parts of the game is the good Guy & Nicki dynamic.

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

Wait, you guys don't see my new John Cena model wearing a cockring?? As for her anatomy, I was doing this render for a supporter who wanted it, so I may have cut a few corners.. :'D



I think Nicki's biggest failing is her people-pleasing nature. Guy points it out last chapter, asking why she put up with Brent. She says something about being overly forgiving, due to how she grew up. If you pull together a few disparate remarks about/from Nicki, you can kind of assemble a picture of why she is like she is. She points out that she didn't have anyone to turn to aside from Guy, because she can't ask her family for help. She tells Maya that she has three brothers. Owen (Mr. Rhodenbarr's guard/body man) details a file he assembled on Nicki, which says both of her parents are both in prison. And of course she's able to forgive Dark Guy for being a real piece of shit.

I don't like to lay out too much stuff in posts like this, because sometimes my feelings/ideas change as I'm working on the story, and things I said on blog posts or message boards don't match what eventually ends up in the game. Plus, everyone has their own headcanon for characters. But, in my mind Nicki grew up in a very chaotic household, where she was likely abused by a family member. This causes her to subconsciously seek out men that are controlling and/or abusive. Maybe because it's familiar to her, or maybe because giving up a certain amount of control allows her to abdicate responsibility for when things in her life go wrong.

Her path with Good-to-Grey Guy is all about learning to take responsibility for herself, and build healthy boundaries.

Mason's biggest failing is that he's a furry.

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Just jokes, fur-fans! <3

I have to say brother every time I hear you talk about the game it makes me want to stop saving it up and play it

but I have to be strong and resist because I know when I do decide to play that's going to be one damn good update