VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [S1 v0.85c] [NeonGhosts]

[ffive]

That excuse doesn't really work... As you say it's he said she said but that picture says different.
It add weight to their version not his and they only have Guy's words that is why she was their.

I mean, the picture doesn't really say anything per se. If it was consensual roleplay, it would look the same. Not to mention a lawyer could easily spin the stupidity of such act into a defense -- "my client isn't so stupid as to willingly incriminate himself, if it was actual rape".

The reality of things is that Brent and Nicki are in dire financial situation and desperately need money. It's very easy to paint their approach of Nicki's rich friend as an attempt to trap him in a situation where they could then extort him. And considering they do need money, i'd easily see Brent settling for some scraps before the loan sharks have him pay his debt selling his own ass on streets, instead of engaging in a lawsuit that may last years, isn't guaranteed to get him anything and that he can't even afford to begin with.

(to clarify, i'm not trying to say that what Guy did there was smart. It was no doubt reckless. But not nearly as suicidal as "handed out clear evidence that'd 100% get him jailed")

 

[prpa]

I know it's not going to happen, but I really do love Isabella, and I wish she was a love interest

I think out of all the characters, she needs love and Redemption the most

She needs someone like the MC to show her love and a good life

No matter what she does, she can still be loved unconditionally

I would not mind starting over a new game just to start a route

And even though it's never going to happen, I'm still praying for a miracle that she'll get her route

Yeah, after reading that short story, I empathize with Isabella, she loves Brittany in her own way. If she doesn't get a route, I hope she at least gets redeemed somehow.

 

[armond]

Yeah, after reading that short story, I empathize with Isabella, she loves Brittany in her own way. If she doesn't get a route, I hope she at least gets redeemed somehow.

Verily, she will be redeemed in the crucible of cock, at the alter of the mother daughter 3way, such is the law

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

Yeah, after reading that short story, I empathize with Isabella, she loves Brittany in her own way. If she doesn't get a route, I hope she at least gets redeemed somehow.

I didn't look for her short story because I know it was going to be sad

but the game is not over and I'm hoping for a miracle that she gets her own route

 

[ffive]

Yeah, after reading that short story, I empathize with Isabella, she loves Brittany in her own way.

I'm out of fucks to give for people who hurt others "but really, deep down they love in their own way". They can stick that own way of theirs up the arse. Also theirs.

 

[Joshy92]

I didn't look for her short story because I know it was going to be sad

but the game is not over and I'm hoping for a miracle that she gets her own route

I think it was sad, but it was also some of the best writing NeonGhosts has done.

It made me feel so many things brother.

 

[prpa]

I don't know if it's been posted before, but here is the story if anyone is interested.

Spoiler: Wanton Weekends: Glitter and Grit

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[yossa999]

I don't know if it's been posted before, but here is the story if anyone is interested.

Spoiler: Wanton Weekends: Glitter and Grit

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https://f95zone.to/threads/friends-in-need-ch-1-remake-v0-25-neonghosts.112500/post-15458444

 

[Wall Of Text]

I think people are confusing Justification with Reasons, and Psychopathy with ... Well shit just happening. Lets review an example.

Man comes home from work early, finds his wife in bed with his best friend. He has entered the home, and no one has heard him. He exits to the garage where he retrieves a sledge hammer. He proceeds back to the bedroom where he then murders his wife and best friend. Afterwards, he goes and sits at the kitchen table, calls the police and surrenders himself.
Is this justified homicide? No. Does he think it's justified? Maybe, but most likely he doesn't, and acknowledges that this was a Bad Thing, but probably still doesn't think he's a Bad Person, because He Had His Reasons. See, usually even in the mind of most perpetrators they can see it's not justified, and it's not excusable, but it's Exceptional. This isn't true of psychopaths, which is what many seem to want to paint the MC as if he takes any dark options.

Now, lets do a little timeline work. If you take the BADEST BAD DARKEST DARK option for Nicki, and Ashe, and Gabbi, and Viola, and... well you get the idea. Then yes, MC probably is a psychopath. But what if you take Good and Middle options for most people, and a Dark Option for someone else? Well... maybe it's something about that situation, that person, whatever, that creates a specific circumstance where something happens. This is a more nuanced character, and a more nuanced story in that case. Also a little reality, if you were to visit your local prison you would find an assortment of people there. Bad People, Psychopaths, and Good People who did One Fucked Up Thing are just three types, and while Bad People will outnumber everyone else, Good People who did One Fucked Up Thing will outnumber actual Psychopaths.

TL;dr People can have reasons without having justification, and one bad act doesn't make someone a psychopath.

 

[prpa]

https://f95zone.to/threads/friends-in-need-ch-1-remake-v0-25-neonghosts.112500/post-15458444

Thanks, I honestly didn’t see that post. I don’t want to be a dick or the reason Neon stops posting here, so no more short story reposts from me.

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

I think it was sad, but it was also some of the best writing NeonGhosts has done.

It made me feel so many things, brother.

I have no doubt of that my brother is just. I love her so much, I don't need to know her sad story

It would probably destroy me, and from the moment I met her

from the way she was acting

She was either a bad person or somebody who had a sad life that made her that way

 

[Pixillin']

Thanks, I honestly didn’t see that post. I don’t want to be a dick or the reason Neon stops posting here, so no more short story reposts from me.

I think Neon has stopped posting here anyway, at least for awhile.

 

[Machete]

I think Neon has stopped posting here anyway, at least for awhile.

And that's a wise move

 

[LWtbo]

I mean, the picture doesn't really say anything per se. If it was consensual roleplay, it would look the same. Not to mention a lawyer could easily spin the stupidity of such act into a defense -- "my client isn't so stupid as to willingly incriminate himself, if it was actual rape".

The reality of things is that Brent and Nicki are in dire financial situation and desperately need money. It's very easy to paint their approach of Nicki's rich friend as an attempt to trap him in a situation where they could then extort him. And considering they do need money, i'd easily see Brent settling for some scraps before the loan sharks have him pay his debt selling his own ass on streets, instead of engaging in a lawsuit that may last years, isn't guaranteed to get him anything and that he can't even afford to begin with.

(to clarify, i'm not trying to say that what Guy did there was smart. It was no doubt reckless. But not nearly as suicidal as "handed out clear evidence that'd 100% get him jailed")

Yeh np
Your stuck of lawsuits idea which is understandable it's kindda an American institutional pass time after all.
But I'm talking about the LAW and they wont take him to court for money.
Strangly enough when most women are brave enough to report Rape money in not the motivation behind it.
And if he's convicted then even Perry Mason would struggle to win if and when Brent convinced Niki to then bring a lawsuite.
But you keep thinking that it's not an issue that perfect game logic.

 

[Dark Silence]

Does the patch in the main OP work for the remake?

 

[Pixillin']

And that's a wise move

Yep. Since February people have freaked tf out because the Blue Valentine minisode wasn’t a full update, then because he was doing the chapter one remake he’s been talking about for two years, then because the remake contained the changes he’s been saying he was going to make so it has pretty much been a bitchfest for four months now while his Discord has had almost none of that.

 

[Sether0]

Does the patch in the main OP work for the remake?

Yeah.

 

[Machete]

Yep. Since February people have freaked tf out because the Blue Valentine minisode wasn’t a full update, then because he was doing the chapter one remake he’s been talking about for two years, then because the remake contained the changes he’s been saying he was going to make so it has pretty much been a bitchfest for four months now while his Discord has had almost none of that.

Yep, this forum can be quite toxic. I mean, we all can express opinions passionately, but ultimately we must accept that the devs makes their own choices.
I myself, time ago, made my point about this game, according to me, having too many LIs, which IMHO, could turn the whole project into an extenuating endeavour for Neon Ghosts. I hoped to be constructive, but it pissed off many readers and Neon Ghosts too i think.
Lately i try not to be too intense in my opinions and pointers.

 

[Ragnar]

Yep. Since February people have freaked tf out because the Blue Valentine minisode wasn’t a full update, then because he was doing the chapter one remake he’s been talking about for two years, then because the remake contained the changes he’s been saying he was going to make so it has pretty much been a bitchfest for four months now while his Discord has had almost none of that.

I wouldn't talk on behalf of Neon like you're doing because you can do more harm than good.
From what you are saying it can be interpreted that Neon prefers a Yes, sir circlejerk over some valid criticism from an open forum.
He's been here on f95 since the beginning of FiN development and I don't remember him saying he's going anywhere.

 

[Machete]

From what you are saying it can be interpreted that Neon prefers a Yes, sir circlejerk over some valid criticism from an open forum.

Well, Neon Ghosts have been rather engaged in this forum, and very passionate himself when it came to defend his own choices, but it wouldn't be questionable if, just like anyone else, sometimes he need a break too.
Just to say. I've no idea about what's Neon Ghosts up this days. Maybe he's just busy.