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Maybe this is a hot take, but I don't think there's ever a "believable justification" for rape.
Agree. Rape is a violent crime, and any justification for it is just there as a rationalization to make the perpetrator feel better about it. And unlike other violent crime, even self-defense doesn't work as a possible justification. That doesn't mean you can't do it (in a video game) but the idea that something they did justifies your actions is just something you made up in your head.
 

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I said it wasn't toned down, not that it wasn't changed. In fact, i have mentioned the aspects which were changed --like the whole dumb writing over Nicki-- which imo isn't toning things down but quite the opposite, removing aspects which previously made it silly and hard to take seriously.
I know you weren't replying to me, but I don't think the body writing was silly personally. It's a common enough kink that I've seen multiple times, and it's supposed to be degrading, like putting your foot on a girl's face while you pound her doggy or something. I think it does a great job leaning into the dark route, and if it's gone from the original, I'll miss it.
 

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I know you weren't replying to me, but I don't think the body writing was silly personally. It's a common enough kink that I've seen multiple times, and it's supposed to be degrading, like putting your foot on a girl's face while you pound her doggy or something. I think it does a great job leaning into the dark route, and if it's gone from the original, I'll miss it.
I know it's a kink for some people, but i simply can't take it seriously. Additionally, in the context of the game it's just juvenile dick waving and posturing that Guy is doing to get at Brent more than anything else, and it causes all the distaste i'd feel otherwise take a back seat for a knee-jerk "christ what are you, twelve?" :whistle:
 
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Here's another hot take
Fiction =/= Reality
No one is saying that fiction = reality. That doesn't mean that rape is justified in fiction though - if you do it the character is doing a bad (unjustified) thing in the fictional story. Characters in fiction sometimes do bad things.
 
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No one is saying that fiction = reality. That doesn't mean that rape is justified in fiction though - if you do it the character is doing a bad (unjustified) thing in the fictional story. Characters in fiction sometimes do bad things.
I'm saying this as a friendly acquaintance, enough internet, get outside for a while
 

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No one is saying that fiction = reality. That doesn't mean that rape is justified in fiction though - if you do it the character is doing a bad (unjustified) thing in the fictional story. Characters in fiction sometimes do bad things.
Obviously, rape is never okay, justified or whatever you want to call it. But lets say you have a character who's mentally unstable or dealing with some kind of psychosis, they might think what they're doing makes sense, even though it doesn't.
 

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Obviously, rape is never okay, justified or whatever you want to call it. But lets say you have a character who's mentally unstable or dealing with some kind of psychosis, they might think what they're doing makes sense, even though it doesn't.
Sure, a person in reality suffering from those things might think the same. I'm not even sure what we're arguing about anymore. I think everyone pretty much agrees that rape is bad, and not a nice thing to do.
 

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I know it's a kink for some people, but i simply can't take it seriously. Additionally, in the context of the game it's just juvenile dick waving and posturing that Guy is doing to get at Brent more than anything else, and it causes all the distaste i'd feel otherwise take a back seat for a knee-jerk "christ what are you, twelve?" :whistle:
Mfers out here lickin' feet and livin' their best lives with NTR, so different strokes for different folks. The C1 Remake only makes the dark path a little harder to get into as opposed to flipping a switch right then and there. It's a little darker this go 'cause there's more to it than flexing on Brent. Mfer is drunk on power and in love with it.
 

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Nice weekly post.

But now I need to do bad things to the Chen mother daughter combo & rip that lingerie off Isabella.
 

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I know it's a kink for some people, but i simply can't take it seriously. Additionally, in the context of the game it's just juvenile dick waving and posturing that Guy is doing to get at Brent more than anything else, and it causes all the distaste i'd feel otherwise take a back seat for a knee-jerk "christ what are you, twelve?" :whistle:
I guess we just see it differently. I didn't view it as childish, I thought it was genuinely degrading for Nicki, pretty freaky to imagine someone abusing someone like that in RL, and... pretty hot 'cause I'm a dark route enjoyer. If someone sent me a picture of my gf naked and crying, face running with mascara and her pussy all abused, with 'whore' and 'pig' and all that written all over her body, I'd be terrified. That's probably what the author had in mind, not some schoolyard bully shit where you have nerd written on your arm or something :p
 
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Dev Update! 5/19/25

Hey friends, hope you're all doing well this week!

First, just in case anyone missed it: I posted a new text short story featuring Madison, which has two pieces of art accompanying it. The first part of said story can be found (for free!) in the sticky'd post on the landing page. I'm not sure how long this one will be, honestly. I'm kinda having fun with it, so we'll see how much longer I want to keep it going.

As far as the game, work continues here in the rendering mines, and I'm making steady progress. I've added 250ish renders over the last two weeks, and I'm nearing the end of the work I need to do for the stuff that goes between the new Chapter 1 and Chapter 2. There's some additional background for our hard-luck hero, a new ero scene, and some little appearances from Carolina and the Chen family.

As always, things end up taking me longer than I'd like, but I'm working as quickly as I can to get this stuff finished, so I can move onto rendering Chapter 11. I promise, I'm just as eager to get back to the present as everyone else is. I'm planning to hit the ground running on June 1st, so that's my self-imposed deadline, to stop fiddling with other stuff.
Finally, just for fun I'm adding a little image of Isabella. Because when I buy a new lingerie asset, I can't not try it out right away!

Alright, that's it for me, today! As always, take care of yourselves and thank you for your support!
 

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I've added 250ish renders over the last two weeks, and I'm nearing the end of the work I need to do for the stuff that goes between the new Chapter 1 and Chapter 2.
It looks like it will take a while to get to Ch11. I thought that adding remake Ch1 with the rest of the story would take a week or two at the most, but it seems like it will take longer.

No one is saying that fiction = reality. That doesn't mean that rape is justified in fiction though - if you do it the character is doing a bad (unjustified) thing in the fictional story. Characters in fiction sometimes do bad things.
There can be justifications in the story you're reading, this doesn't mean that rape is a good thing mind you. We're talking about the logic of the characters, their motivations and so on, and yes, psychopaths have motivations too.
Coming out of the left field with rape is always bad duh doesn't add anything useful to the conversation. It looks more like a passive aggressive attack because you don't like people discussing changes they don't like in the game.
 
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Dev Update! 5/19/25

Hey friends, hope you're all doing well this week!

First, just in case anyone missed it: I posted a new text short story featuring Madison, which has two pieces of art accompanying it. The first part of said story can be found (for free!) in the sticky'd post on the landing page. I'm not sure how long this one will be, honestly. I'm kinda having fun with it, so we'll see how much longer I want to keep it going.

As far as the game, work continues here in the rendering mines, and I'm making steady progress. I've added 250ish renders over the last two weeks, and I'm nearing the end of the work I need to do for the stuff that goes between the new Chapter 1 and Chapter 2. There's some additional background for our hard-luck hero, a new ero scene, and some little appearances from Carolina and the Chen family.

As always, things end up taking me longer than I'd like, but I'm working as quickly as I can to get this stuff finished, so I can move onto rendering Chapter 11. I promise, I'm just as eager to get back to the present as everyone else is. I'm planning to hit the ground running on June 1st, so that's my self-imposed deadline, to stop fiddling with other stuff.
Finally, just for fun I'm adding a little image of Isabella. Because when I buy a new lingerie asset, I can't not try it out right away!

Alright, that's it for me, today! As always, take care of yourselves and thank you for your support!
Thanks for the steady work ! and dont mind us we are just a bunch of yappers
 

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I guess we just see it differently. I didn't view it as childish, I thought it was genuinely degrading for Nicki, pretty freaky to imagine someone abusing someone like that in RL, and... pretty hot 'cause I'm a dark route enjoyer.
See, for me the whole concept of degradation with things like "whore" or "slut" doesn't work, because the only thing it does is reveal that the person who believes shaming someone for their sexual practices is making any sort of a point... is but a sexist moron whose opinions are then, by extension, worthless. Like sure, it can be hot when both parties engage in it consensually and "ironically" during sex and whathaveyou, but if someone actually takes is seriously, as genuine insults, and uses them in such manner? Get out.

If someone sent me a picture of my gf naked and crying, face running with mascara and her pussy all abused, with 'whore' and 'pig' and all that written all over her body, I'd be terrified. That's probably what the author had in mind, not some schoolyard bully shit where you have nerd written on your arm or something :p
I seriously doubt terrifying the recipient is what the author had in mind. You have to remember the recipient here is Brent who readily whored out said girlfriend. To me this was nothing but a "look you cuck, i have fucked your girl" petty dominance play which is basically the schoolyard bully shit, just exercised by bigger manchidlren. The mindset behind is just as juvenile and very much the same -- hurt and insult and demean someone so you make yourself feel bigger.

Now, i'd agree that Dark Guy very likely thinks he is making himself bigger with this. But like i said, i just can't roll my eyes hard enough at this sort of mentality, so it makes the whole thing (and Guy) just look stupid.
 
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Well technically Guy would be stupid.
In the case of that picture showing a crying Niki with degrading words written on her.
Much like the idiots that do the polices job for them by filming their crime and posting it on the net.
Guy just handed the evidence of his Rape of Niki to brent and by that the police should brent take that photo to them.
Much like what he has done with the Drugged Ashe stream or video.
If the police were to get a hold of the stream or video inquestion.
So yeh Guy doesn't just look stupid Dark Path Guy is stupid.
Even the rich arn't guaranteed to escape the law if their stupid enough to supply there own evidence they did it.
Just Sayin.
 

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Guy just handed the evidence of his Rape of Niki to brent and by that the police should brent take that photo to them.
The problem is technically it'd be just countered with "this was all consensual financial transaction and/or roleplay and now they're trying to get more money out of me because they know i'm rich" and then turned into a he said/she said. The fact Brent has sent Nicki to Guy with this very goal in mind and that Nicki willingly went along with it doesn't help to sell it as a rape, either -- it'd make both of them participants in selling sex which is just as illegal as buying it in most of the US. And when one side has 50 million bucks and unscrupulous lawyer while the other has nothing, the odds of such thing ending with anything but a settlement is pretty slim.
 
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The problem is technically it'd be just countered with "this was all consensual financial transaction and/or roleplay and now they're trying to get more money out of me because they know i'm rich" and then turned into a he said/she said. The fact Brent has sent Nicki to Guy with this very goal in mind and that Nicki willingly went along with it doesn't help to sell it as a rape, either -- it'd make both of them participants in selling sex which is just as illegal as buying it in most of the US. And when one side has 50 million bucks and unscrupulous lawyer while the other has nothing, the odds of such thing ending with anything but a settlement is pretty slim.
That excuse doesn't really work... As you say it's he said she said but that picture says different.
It add weight to their version not his and they only have Guy's words that is why she was their.
Guy has no proof Brent and Niki have the Photo and their story.
Plus the Money could be seen as a business deal or an attempt at hush money.
And then there's the physical evendence It could be argued she likes rough sex
But it could also point to Rape and given it's two against one saying that.
No they have more on their side than Guy do's on his and its Guys own fault
Also his money may help but can just as easly count against him.
And they don't need money it's the police that will be the ones to prosecute him.
Added to the fact that Rape is not as badly handled or ignored as it used to be.
And the Rich are rarely seen as Victims these days so not as readily believed.
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Dev Update! 5/19/25

Hey friends, hope you're all doing well this week!

First, just in case anyone missed it: I posted a new text short story featuring Madison, which has two pieces of art accompanying it. The first part of said story can be found (for free!) in the sticky'd post on the landing page. I'm not sure how long this one will be, honestly. I'm kinda having fun with it, so we'll see how much longer I want to keep it going.

As far as the game, work continues here in the rendering mines, and I'm making steady progress. I've added 250ish renders over the last two weeks, and I'm nearing the end of the work I need to do for the stuff that goes between the new Chapter 1 and Chapter 2. There's some additional background for our hard-luck hero, a new ero scene, and some little appearances from Carolina and the Chen family.

As always, things end up taking me longer than I'd like, but I'm working as quickly as I can to get this stuff finished, so I can move onto rendering Chapter 11. I promise, I'm just as eager to get back to the present as everyone else is. I'm planning to hit the ground running on June 1st, so that's my self-imposed deadline, to stop fiddling with other stuff.
Finally, just for fun I'm adding a little image of Isabella. Because when I buy a new lingerie asset, I can't not try it out right away!

Alright, that's it for me today! As always, take care of yourselves, and thank you for your support!
I know it's not going to happen, but I really do love Isabella, and I wish she was a love interest

I think out of all the characters, she needs love and Redemption the most

She needs someone like the MC to show her love and a good life

No matter what she does, she can still be loved unconditionally

I would not mind starting over a new game just to start a route

And even though it's never going to happen, I'm still praying for a miracle that she'll get her route
 
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