VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [S1 v0.85c] [NeonGhosts]

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Pixillin'

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Ragnar said:
Eh, the remake one is just for Ch1 later still she will come back tatooed.
I don't mind tatoos but some people hate it.
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Depends on the tat and the person. The only thing I don't like about Nicky's tatoos is that she doesn't like them. I wouldn't *make* her get rid of them, but I kinda hope she decides to if only because no one should have to wear a reminder of a dark part of their lives, on their skin, every day, forever.
 
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Pixillin' said:
Depends on the tat and the person. The only thing I don't like about Nicky's tatoos is that she doesn't like them. I wouldn't *make* her get rid of them, but I kinda hope she decides to if only because no one should have to wear a reminder of a dark part of their lives, on their skin, every day, forever.
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Removing big ass tatoos is not easy and the skin is damaged big time. But this is a game so magic tech can be a thing.
I hope we can give some tatoos and piercings to some of the girls in the dark route.
 
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Ragnar said:
Removing big ass tatoos is not easy and the skin is damaged big time. But this is a game so magic tech can be a thing.
I hope we can give some tatoos and piercings to some of the girls in the dark route.
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thats alot of effort to costumize characters , it will double or triple the dev time for such small details , not worth it
 
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Ya know... I saw someone mention how Nicki didn't even try to offer to pay the MC back and how much they hated her for it. Maybe that could be an optional good path: "I'll give you the 20k Nicki, but here's the catch, you will pay back the money by working for ME instead of wasting your life in that convivence store with your prick of a bf. I have an idea about starting this charity and need a sex-er-secretary.... and you already look so cute in a skirt an stockings..."
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last option is more interesting tho, basically "Gas, grass or ass - nobody rides for free"
 
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soldano said:
Well, I don't know. Will the story really remain unchanged after the remake? I think it's difficult. The dark path has to change by force. And it will probably disappear. Perhaps some financial dominance will remain, but it will probably be much more watered down than in the original. And in the nice path... Many more things can be kept here. But it will also have to be tweaked a bit.
Honestly, I wouldn't assume the story won't change.
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You could be right, I looked back at what Neon has said and there IS a plan to update bits and pieces through chapters 2-10. If you use search you can see what was said directly. It seems to be very minimal though, mostly focused on the Ashe date in chapter two. I personally wouldn't go as far as to believe the change for chapter one requires tossing the baby with the bathwater, but stranger things have happened. I was just pointing out what's there currently. Only the writer really knows the path a story will take until its written, ultimately have to entrust they have a satisfying vision.
 
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ffive said:
The author made no indication he's planning to change any of it, despite mentioning all other changes he's doing/planning, so i don't see any reason to presume that. Like, why exactly the dark path has to change? Dark Guy is established as a misogynist creep who will rape his closest friend and who gets off on lording his newly acquired advantage/invulnerability... just like Kobalt had "promised him" in the very opening.
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We'll see. But there are several things that make me think so:
- In the remake, it's gone. It's not that the dark path has been toned down or reworked. It's simply gone. The most "dark path" thing that can happen in the remake is that you play that striptease game with Nicki. You don't even force her to do it. It's not blackmail either. At most, we could talk about manipulation there.
- In the latest updates, the "Dark path" has been losing strength and time in the game. It's becoming less important to the plot, and less interesting to play. I'm referring to the "hard Dark path," the one with rape. But the blackmail and financial domination path has also lost strength and importance, although not as much.
- It's been rumored that there are plans to bring the game to STEAM. If that's true, obviously the "Dark path" will have to be softened a lot. And rape will disappear.

And personally, I don't think it's a bad thing that the brutal rape of Nicki in Chapter 1 is gone. In fact, rape bores me. I prefer the blackmail and financial domination in Dark Path (something that's also gone), since it's much more fun than just being a psychopath. The problem I have with the remake is that everything is bland and flabby. It's like playing the early game without the Taboo patch, so to speak. And if we add to that the fact that my favorite character in the game, which was Nicki, is now an idealized woman, flawless, without rough edges, etc. Well, I'm not exactly optimistic about the game's future, honestly. But we'll see. For me, this game was the best one on this site. But if the changes follow the remake's line, I'll stop playing it. I found the remake boring to play. If that had been the original Chapter 1, I wouldn't have continued playing the game. I wish the game the best of luck, but I won't be funding it again.
 
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What the fuck? I waited so that the dark path and the storyline is completely fleshed out since this game does it so well and they're apparently removing it?????
 
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Well even if we need a patch for the dark stuff once the game is on steam it's no big deal, they are easy to apply.
 
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soldano said:
The most "dark path" thing that can happen in the remake is that you play that striptease game with Nicki.
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Uhm no, the most dark thing that can happen in the remake is quite more than this:
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So, you know. The dark path hasn't really gone anywhere. It's neither gone, nor toned down. It's maybe less silly than before, because there's no longer some dumb posturing for Brent's sake. It's now played entirely straight, quite like Ashe's scene in the later part of the game.
 
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soldano said:
We'll see. But there are several things that make me think so:
- In the remake, it's gone. It's not that the dark path has been toned down or reworked. It's simply gone. The most "dark path" thing that can happen in the remake is that you play that striptease game with Nicki. You don't even force her to do it. It's not blackmail either. At most, we could talk about manipulation there.
- In the latest updates, the "Dark path" has been losing strength and time in the game. It's becoming less important to the plot, and less interesting to play. I'm referring to the "hard Dark path," the one with rape. But the blackmail and financial domination path has also lost strength and importance, although not as much.
- It's been rumored that there are plans to bring the game to STEAM. If that's true, obviously the "Dark path" will have to be softened a lot. And rape will disappear.

And personally, I don't think it's a bad thing that the brutal rape of Nicki in Chapter 1 is gone. In fact, rape bores me. I prefer the blackmail and financial domination in Dark Path (something that's also gone), since it's much more fun than just being a psychopath. The problem I have with the remake is that everything is bland and flabby. It's like playing the early game without the Taboo patch, so to speak. And if we add to that the fact that my favorite character in the game, which was Nicki, is now an idealized woman, flawless, without rough edges, etc. Well, I'm not exactly optimistic about the game's future, honestly. But we'll see. For me, this game was the best one on this site. But if the changes follow the remake's line, I'll stop playing it. I found the remake boring to play. If that had been the original Chapter 1, I wouldn't have continued playing the game. I wish the game the best of luck, but I won't be funding it again.
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Well, the dark path was a dead end since the beginning. i.e if you rape Viola she's no longer available in later chapters.
Vanilla and corruption are more interesting, i.e making Viola model for you and masturbate.
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Uhm no, the most dark thing that can happen in the remake is quite more than this:
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So, you know. The dark path hasn't really gone anywhere. It's neither gone, nor toned down. It's maybe less silly than before, because there's no longer some dumb posturing for Brent's sake. It's now played entirely straight, quite like Ashe's scene in the later part of the game.
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I disagree in the last part, the dark path has been changed indeed. Maybe it was done inderectly with Neon trying to make Nicki more sympathetic, but it changes the scene that can lead to the rape. The new scene is worse because Guy doesn't have a believable justification to go rape route unlike in the OG.
Saying he's just a muh soggy knee doesn't work imo.
 
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Ragnar said:
I disagree in the last part, the dark path has been changed indeed.
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I said it wasn't toned down, not that it wasn't changed. In fact, i have mentioned the aspects which were changed --like the whole dumb writing over Nicki-- which imo isn't toning things down but quite the opposite, removing aspects which previously made it silly and hard to take seriously.

The new scene is worse because Guy doesn't have a believable justification to go rape route unlike in the OG.
Saying he's just a muh soggy knee doesn't work imo.
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I think the way the scene itself comes about and plays out actually works well in the context. It's Guy spiraling out on the spot in reaction to how his own actions and behavior on that day backfired on him. It is different from the original where Guy could be acting out his outrage at the "betrayal" but imo this new way, while fundamentally different, works too.

Note, that is the scene itself and the immediate setup, specifically. I have my reservation about the prologue in general, but that was already covered in more detail than needed. :sneaky:
 
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Made a search for that question but I might have misunderstood so, sorry for making someone repeat themselves :

The Chap 1 remake is a standalone right now, but I believe it was said it'll be integrated to the main game in a later update, yes ?
 
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CrazyRabbit said:
Made a search for that question but I might have misunderstood so, sorry for making someone repeat themselves :

The Chap 1 remake is a standalone right now, but I believe it was said it'll be integrated to the main game in a later update, yes ?
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Yeah, and there will even be some content shedding light on what Guy was up to between Nicki leaving and meeting Ashe at the bar. :)
 
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