Quetzzz

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I'd say Neon did a good job explaining how she found her way there, even if the player chooses 'assault', but the changes will also make the narrative flow a bit more with the two still being in a deeply abusive relationship, but it won't be as extreme as it is now.
Yeah, for me, her coming back just highlighted how desperate she was... Which is also what made me hold back, I saw her as a friend in need again.

if guy is even worth redemption or something in the future despite guy doing something horrible and unforgiveable to her. At least that's how I saw things cause why else didn't she just leave right away and instead ask guy why he didn't have sex with her.
Yeah, that's the kind of "ironing out" that I'd love to see. It seems to me (without having checked the code, so I can't say for sure) that most interactions are based on good vs. dark points, without really taking all of the history into account. If that's the case, it's understandable, there would be a ton of variations to have unique dialog for.
 

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Calling someone who roleplays as Guys sisters during sex and likes to be choked and slapped a basic bitch ...
Haha just talking about her description from neon and she can be basic and kinky in the bedroom with the Guy she is starstruck...for me tho she is just missing a breeding kink dialogue to wife her canon.
 
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Mesmerizet

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I liked the Risa drug-den scene. My feeling is that Lucien got her hooked, and has been reeling her in. He played her until she ran out of money, and is now ready to land her: she will soon be in the position of the half-naked girl he was photographing. She realizes this, and involves the MC as an act of desperation.

I hope the MC has the option, aside from just ‘saving’ Risa, to purchase her from Lucien: so that she is dangling from his hook instead (e.g. he could arrange to buy a large supply of her drug, and make an agreement that Lucien won’t sell to her directly anymore.)

I imagine that there are other possibilities that could arise with a collaboration between a dark-path MC and Lucien.
Interesting thought indeed.
 

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I don't understand what's in the new version - is the only content an extension of the previous ending?

It ended when MC & Risa left the apartment.
Now it ends at when MC meets Lucien Graves (full name proclaimed as if MC should recognize him somehow)

Also, would love for a dark/grey path MC to take Risa up on her offer to fuck her once she's done with this drug-den bs XD

Risa, apart from Carolina & Wren, is one of the characters that deserve a good dicking.
 

Mesmerizet

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I'm just here to say that the scenes with Risa are incredibly hot. Normally I enjoy blackmail scenes and other dark paths more, but Risa... Damn, who knew? For some reason he makes me extremely horny without having to be mean. Not even a little bit. I'm falling in love? Nah, I'm still the same motherfucker as always... I hope. Just Risa.... damn it. That woman is a witch.

And now I'm going to continue playing the update with the desire to be really mean to the rest, to compensate.
Ummm what was the Risa scene and what did I miss?

Only thing I got was a footjob & a lap pillow.
 

Mesmerizet

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What do you need help with ? :unsure:
Those are the only two scenes with her.
By two scenes do you mean both the ones in the Receptionist Office after smoking up?
Or is there any one I'm missing?

Choose different dialogue options, it's the only way to alter outcomes in this game and only so many options are available. I can't imagine what difficulty there could be.
If only there was a Gallery / Guide but I am not sure what I'm doing wrong.

I have three paths - Dark / Grey / White - where I mostly prefer White/Grey over Dark
 

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Also, on her willingness for corruption-to-romance and being treated a little badly; I like to think in my head that her guilt over Wren has given her a kind of self-hatred. Lots of people eventually morph their insecurities and pains into sexual kinks, i.e. cuckoldry and the like. Don't know if that's true for Ashe at all, and maybe it's a tad melodramatic, but it makes scenes bittersweet for me :cry:
There's definitely some truth to that. I don't want to conflate kinky masochism with a desire to punish oneself, necessarily.. But, I think that it was probably a kink Ashe always had, which rose to the fore after Wren's accident.

Changes to the first interaction with Nicki are coming in the Chapter 1 remake (don't worry to anyone unfamiliar, Neon is only doing Chapter 1, he's very determined to not fall into the endless remake cycle). Correct me if I'm wrong Neon, but I believe you mentioned at some point that the 'assault' option is being toned down. I imagine it will still be very much worse than the 'exploit' path, but it won't be as vicious. Essentially the aim is to make it a bit more reasonable for her to come back to Guy after everything that happens during the time skip (and more importantly, stay there).
Yeah, all this. I don't like to get too into the discussion for the dark options for FiN, but I want to smooth out a lot of that stuff in Chapter One. It'll turn Nicki's dark path into one where she can reasonably write the events of Chapter One off as more like a mistake borne of too much wine and simmering feelings, than an act of deliberate cruelty.

I don't understand what's in the new version - is the only content an extension of the previous ending?

It ended when MC & Risa left the apartment.
Now it ends at when MC meets Lucien Graves (full name proclaimed as if MC should recognize him somehow)

Also, would love for a dark/grey path MC to take Risa up on her offer to fuck her once she's done with this drug-den bs XD
Yeah, so basically what happened with this version was that I wanted to get it out for Christmas Day. I did so, but it ended pretty anti-climatically, with Risa offering to dress Guy. So, I wanted to get it to a proper chapter ending, with a tease for what's ahead. Ergo I added the scene where we meet Markus, Lucien, and the half-dressed girl known as Cherry. I just wanted to push ahead and give people an actual cliffhanger, rather than.. Risa going to get Guy a shirt.

A lot of people have kind of read into the Lucien Graves thing, and I mean.. How do you introduce yourself to people? *shrug!* Lucien's name does have some special meaning, but we'll learn more about that next chapter.

And don't worry, next update will have an array of options for Risa, across the alignment spectrum. >_>

is an update coming?
Yes, but I'm going to avoid giving a date until we're a bit closer. I thought I'd have it out in February, but that obviously didn't happen. I added some scenes, so this update will be way more of a full-length chapter. Currently around 420 renders, with another 600+ to go. But, I've got big chunks of the script written, so I'm planning to knock out a lot of scenes over the next week or two, and see where we're at.

This chapter's been a little complicated by a lot of new locations, and a few lengthy sex scenes. But, I think it'll be worth the wait.

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Mesmerizet

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Yeah, so basically what happened with this version was that I wanted to get it out for Christmas Day. I did so, but it ended pretty anti-climatically, with Risa offering to dress Guy. So, I wanted to get it to a proper chapter ending, with a tease for what's ahead. Ergo I added the scene where we meet Markus, Lucien, and the half-dressed girl known as Cherry. I just wanted to push ahead and give people an actual cliffhanger, rather than.. Risa going to get Guy a shirt.

A lot of people have kind of read into the Lucien Graves thing, and I mean.. How do you introduce yourself to people? *shrug!* Lucien's name does have some special meaning, but we'll learn more about that next chapter.

And don't worry, next update will have an array of options for Risa, across the alignment spectrum. >_>

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I see. I was fairly surprised to see no update on this game after I checked in on F95 after a few months
However seeing that I knew that there would be something cooking behind the scenes.

Hopefully we have the new Risa scene on the good Guy path as well. Image looks like the dark/grey paths.
That's primarily the path I play with some selective choices.

Also, is there any ETA on the planned gallery feature?
That would really be a godsend, without having to maintain so many savefiles.
 
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