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You could even add a new color (maybe orange or green) to indicate if an event is unseen (as opposed to the pink ones that you've probably done multiple times.)
 

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I maintain, you should just pull the plug and delete the "sandbox" area. Go full novel. Your story telling is great, having to move around (or rather THINKING there is something worth moving to) really breaks up the flow of the game. Keep the events color coded (pink for repeatable/random and blue for story) but just throw all possible events for a day/time period up on the screen so that the player doesn't have to figure out where that event is in the 100 rooms that mostly serve no purpose when they play.
I do think that would be best, but then we'd really need a gallery or something. It's a nightmare managing saves for all the non repeatable, or time limited scenes, especially since the last few updates of part 1 kept breaking old saves.
 

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One thing I found lacking was pregnant sex (the scene for Bonnie is a WIP even though it seems like it came out awhile ago, so I hope that gets added eventually.
I've seen a screenshot of that choice, but didn't encounter that choice in my playthrough, is it missable, or was the choice cut from the game?
 
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I do think that would be best, but then we'd really need a gallery or something. It's a nightmare managing saves for all the non repeatable, or time limited scenes, especially since the last few updates of part 1 kept breaking old saves.
I don't see why you'd need the gallery. You can't repeat story events now and it isn't an issue. And unless you do a blue/story event, just have the game return to the master bedroom, or whatever the new decision hub is called, once it is over. Just a simple loop.
 
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I've seen a screenshot of that choice, but didn't encounter that choice in my playthrough, is it missable, or was the choice cut from the game?
He had originally mentioned wanting to add a preggo sex with Bonnie scene but as far as I can tell (and I was checking every new update for several updates running) he just dropped the idea and never implemented it.
 
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I don't see why you'd need the gallery.
Because
You can't repeat story events now
Story events are unrepeatable, and most of my part 1 saves throw an error when I try and load them. The last few updates of part 1 ended up breaking most old saves. Unless I replay massive portions of the game there's only a small handful of sex scenes I can replay from part one. As much as I enjoy the game and the story at the end of the day it is porn and it's kinda hard to fap to an error screen. Not to kink shame anyone but I just can't get off to an exceptions list.
As for how that'd be good if we're loosing the sandbox, well it means we don't need content to be repeatable going forward. If this game ends up going for the pure novel approach then there's no point in having a scene selection hub.
 

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I've seen a screenshot of that choice, but didn't encounter that choice in my playthrough, is it missable, or was the choice cut from the game?
The scene was never made and the choice was cut. I tried reload that choice a while ago and it errored, when I loaded an older one and got to where the scene belonged there was no choice.
 
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He had originally mentioned wanting to add a preggo sex with Bonnie scene but as far as I can tell (and I was checking every new update for several updates running) he just dropped the idea and never implemented it.
The scene was never made and the choice was cut. I tried reload that choice a while ago and it errored, when I loaded an older one and got to where the scene belonged there was no choice.
Thank you both, now I know for sure that I didn't miss anything.
 

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I don't see why you'd need the gallery. You can't repeat story events now and it isn't an issue. And unless you do a blue/story event, just have the game return to the master bedroom, or whatever the new decision hub is called, once it is over. Just a simple loop.
Actually in games with non repeatable events is really the most important for a gallery so you can repeat your favorite scenes.
 
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I've seen a screenshot of that choice, but didn't encounter that choice in my playthrough, is it missable, or was the choice cut from the game?
I could not get the animation to look right for the longest time, way too much clipping of body parts(more than normal at least), so I decided to pull the idea until I could figure it out. I recently found out a way I could have done it, so when I am redoing the scenes for a final version of part 1, then I will probably add it back in, but that is a loooooong ways off. Of course there are always future events to look forward to. This is one of my many regrets, I thought I could do it at the time and landed on my face.
 

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I could not get the animation to look right for the longest time, way too much clipping of body parts(more than normal at least), so I decided to pull the idea until I could figure it out. I recently found out a way I could have done it, so when I am redoing the scenes for a final version of part 1, then I will probably add it back in, but that is a loooooong ways off. Of course there are always future events to look forward to. This is one of my many regrets, I thought I could do it at the time and landed on my face.
Once that is added, I'll start a new playthrough.
 

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I have toyed around with putting some of the darker stories into a short visual story format all wrapped up into one file. If I did this it would not only be stories from the game (imagine Airi's alternate path had she not been saved...) but other short tales from other worlds (or whatever my degenerate mind can come with). It would be in an anthology format. I may still do that one day, but I would have to find a way to separate it completely from the Patreon side of what I do, since Patreon is fairly strict on what can go through their site.
ah ya herd abut pattrion being stupid strickt
 

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what going to 3.3 is it getting rework is it going to be in parts now because i like rerun the game from the begun and this going to happen with the other update
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what going to 3.3 is it getting rework is it going to be in parts now because i like rerun the game from the begun and this going to happen with the other update
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There is a couple of reasons on why I split the game at this point. One of them was that it was getting too big file wise and taking forever to upload. I will probably do another split at around 9-10GB again. There are other reasons as well, but they are not important. I am also looking into making update only files once I have time to sit down and figure it out, it does not look too hard (someone sent me a really good how-to on it!), I just have not had the time to sit down and learn/do it yet.
 
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Did you read the Developer Notes or Changelog? If so you will see that there are 6 events. Also, there is a large note above the download section that tells you to read both of them.

Just in case, here is a direct quote from the Developer Notes which I updated yesterday before uploading the update:

"I have split the game at v0.3.4 into a new file. It is supposed to be a fresh start with new save files, but some people have told me that their old saves were showing. Start a new game. Do not load these old save, they will break the game."
You threw a lot of people by splitting the game on a patchlevel like that while keeping the same save directory. Half the dev notes on this site haven't been updated since the initial release years ago so of course people are going to miss it.

next release really should be season2 0.1.0 with its own save location, and maybe update 0.3.3g with a "continued in the next season" end event?

If you're insistent on doing this and keeping the same save location, you shouldn't be reusing the same variables. People end up loading with progress=4 from way back when Lilith and Leo visited so it skips right past most of your new content.

did you pass time?
there is more then 1 scene ,you'd think people are used to have to rest/skip time to cycle trough the Day states to get to certain event by now (its a thing for this avn,not a good one perse but still something the regulars should know)
They loaded from their last save and it skipped past everything but the final conversation in the carriage.
 
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You threw a lot of people by splitting the game on a patchlevel like that while keeping the same save directory. Half the dev notes on this site haven't been updated since the initial release years ago so of course people are going to miss it.

next release really should be season2 0.1.0 with its own save location, and maybe update 0.3.3g with a "continued in the next season" end event?

If you're insistent on doing this and keeping the same save location, you shouldn't be reusing the same variables. People end up loading with progress=4 from way back when Lilith and Leo visited so it skips right past most of your new content.


They loaded from their last save and it skipped past everything but the final conversation in the carriage.
I will have to look at the code for the save file location, because it was supposed to not be shared. When I fire it up it cleared properly for me and I had none of my old saves carry over. It was a new build, not a patch, but something might have been mixed up when I brought over some of the older content for this version.

I have seen this complaint a few times already, which is fine I will see if it is something that I can fix. However, it is clearly noted above the download section on the original post to read the Changelog and Developer Notes, where this is all clearly stated and that there was a problem with it. I had it all posted here before the update went live. This is the third time I have addressed this issue, and it will be the last. I know there is a problem, I will look into fixing it going forward.

UPDATE: I have found the issue, and as I thought it was when I brought files over I overwrote the new save file directory which Ren'py generates when you first start building a game. I have fixed this so there should be no problems going forward.
 
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I was really enjoying this game. It was a lot of fun doing everything I could to fuck over bad people and save girls from bad fates, that they didn't deserve. The later parts of the Talia thing felt a little off, but storywise I kind of understood where it was coming from, but then the game
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and now its really starting to piss me off. Talk about a tonal shift. The whole game has been about helping girls have the freedom to make their own choices, so what the fuck happened?
 

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I was really enjoying this game. It was a lot of fun doing everything I could to fuck over bad people and save girls from bad fates, that they didn't deserve. The later parts of the Talia thing felt a little off, but storywise I kind of understood where it was coming from, but then the game
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and now its really starting to piss me off. Talk about a tonal shift. The whole game has been about helping girls have the freedom to make their own choices, so what the fuck happened?
The MC was way more reluctant than any of the girls in that part. Not to say that there wasn't rape going on, but the MC took the brunt of the rape.
Spoiler, every girl from that part of the game that we actually see ends up a girlfriend, concubine or wife so I think it's pretty safe to say that they were either alright with it, or not in anyway begrudging the MC for it.
 

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The MC was way more reluctant than any of the girls in that part. Not to say that there wasn't rape going on, but the MC took the brunt of the rape.
Spoiler, every girl from that part of the game that we actually see ends up a girlfriend, concubine or wife so I think it's pretty safe to say that they were either alright with it, or not in anyway begrudging the MC for it.
Lemme preface this by saying I 100% believe an artist should make the game he wants with the story and choices he wants.

To your specific point, I am aware of that from looking up the subject on this board before I made my post that most of those girls end up with the MC. That doesn't change the fact, that
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Regardless, as the point of this forum is to discuss video games, I feel that while the author should not be forced to react to my feelings, I have every right to share my frustration that I game I enjoyed so much as to play for 12 hours yesterday (including staying up 8 hours later than I should) is now proceeding with a plot that feels so in conflict with the themes of the previous 12 hours as to make me physically nauseous to play.
 
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Lemme preface this by saying I 100% believe an artist should make the game he wants with the story and choices he wants.

To your specific point, I am aware of that from looking up the subject on this board before I made my post that most of those girls end up with the MC. That doesn't change the fact, that
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Regardless, as the point of this forum is to discuss video games, I feel that while the author should not be forced to react to my feelings, I have every right to share my frustration that I game I enjoyed so much as to play for 12 hours yesterday (including staying up 8 hours later than I should) is now proceeding with a plot that feels so in conflict with the themes of the previous 12 hours as to make me physically nauseous to play.
Being frustrated is a valid feeling at that point in the story. When I saw that other people were getting frustrated when I first released those updates I actually cut that whole thing short and resolved everything as cleanly as possible. The ending to it was the same as I had planned so I got the ending to it I wanted and the players got out of it.

I will never promise to not make people frustrated or uncomfortable, now or in the future. But I am also not a dev that does not listen. I may not always agree on what people say on here, but valid feedback is valid and I have used it to make decisions that I otherwise would not have made. I have also ignored feedback that I deem required to be ignored, though I do read it and put some thought into the comments made.
 
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