FatGiant

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Be careful....this Game will fill your RAM to the brim...no matter if you have 32,64,128,256 GB of RAM. After 5 Minutes....Game is not playable anymore....:( Dunno why.....first time that this ever happens....
There's a fix for that on the Main Page. Dev is publishing a patch soon.

Oh and welcome to the party, you're late, everyone's on the way out, but, welcome anyway.

Peace :(
 
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FatGiant

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The pirates are upset. Choosing beggars, practically. imo, Leonave only has to worry about the happiness of subscribers and potential subscribers, but mostly I think they're making this game because it's a story that they want to tell. Making the audience happy is possibly secondary.

Regardless, it's far too easy to harp on the negative, and I think that's a shame. This forum rarely compliments the original renders, the detailed animations (especially flesh deformation!), or the compelling characterization, or the world building, or the mysterious storyline.

If I were Leonave I'd probably read these forums, true, but I'd take every bit of vitriol slung in my direction with a grain of salt. This forum can be downright mean rather than constructive.
This stance is rather strange.

Bear with me, you are against people having opinions on the story, conflating anything that isn't what you think, with personal attacks on the Dev.

But, if they agree with your view, they are correct and praising of the Dev.

Let's be clear here. I like the story. I like the way it creates a deep involvement. Yet, I don't agree, like or want, this pusillanimous MC, that knowing full well how the "sister" and the "mother" have been treating him, professes his love for them. This is out of sync with the involvement that the Dev made us feel so far.

I am a writer too, this is what I call an insertion. An interference on the character that is opposed to all that the author as made the readers feel beforehand. This MC has been abandoned, shot, ignored and lied to by the persons he assumed (and we as players too) that should be on his side. He's aware of that, of the lengths they have gone to humiliate and betray him at every turn.

When he gets to a point of being able to confront them about it, instead he professes love? Where does this come from? No distrust? No hurt? No gutted expectations? No blame? No lasting pain from even considering suicide? Nothing? He just loves them and trusts them even when they say to his face that they will continue to lie to him?

Are you fucking kidding me?

None of this merits any type of criticism or at the very least a creaked eyebrow? This is me saying that a VERY good explanation MUST be coming, because nothing so far explains this level of Main Character manipulation.

But to you, this is Vitriol aimed at the Dev. No. It isn't. This is people saying that they are aware of the insertion, of the manipulation, and NOT liking it, because it goes against everything that was done before with NO explanation whatsoever. Being critic, isn't an offense, offensive would be to stay passive.

One of 2 things is true, you have read a completely different story, or, you haven't read or felt anything at all.

Peace :(
 

AVNplayer69

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The pirates are upset. Choosing beggars, practically. imo, Leonave only has to worry about the happiness of subscribers and potential subscribers, but mostly I think they're making this game because it's a story that they want to tell. Making the audience happy is possibly secondary.

Regardless, it's far too easy to harp on the negative, and I think that's a shame. This forum rarely compliments the original renders, the detailed animations (especially flesh deformation!), or the compelling characterization, or the world building, or the mysterious storyline.

If I were Leonave I'd probably read these forums, true, but I'd take every bit of vitriol slung in my direction with a grain of salt. This forum can be downright mean rather than constructive.
U sound like one of those "don't ask questions! Just consume product and get excited for next product" type of people. Pirates or not everybody on here has a right to openly express their frustrations and gripes with the game. It's their freedom, just like the dev's freedom of taking points from those criticisms or just dgaf about them, that's his choice. Also people rate the game here if they like it leading to potential contributors or patrons to his game if they have the interest. So don't bitch about people doing what they're doing in a forum that's created for that
 

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I honestly couldn't have put it better myself. The only way for any of this to make sense in terms of the MC is if they somehow brainwashed the fuck out of him while he was in a coma (which I wouldn't be surprised about given how hellbent they are on destroying him mentally and emotionally), or that he was born without a spine or any modicum of self-respect.

It's just honestly bizarre in they way it's portrayed.
 

Ricthequick

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I honestly couldn't have put it better myself. The only way for any of this to make sense in terms of the MC is if they somehow brainwashed the fuck out of him while he was in a coma (which I wouldn't be surprised about given how hellbent they are on destroying him mentally and emotionally), or that he was born without a spine or any modicum of self-respect.

It's just honestly bizarre in they way it's portrayed.
I'll keep my personal private "canon" belief always alive (keep in mind this is ONLY in my head haha).

The mom (as every single parent in real) has her favourite child, and it was the older sister, never really cared too much for the others (yes also for Emilie), and work is the only thing she actually cares about and enjoys, again not uncommon in real life.

The sister... she's in the wrong, period, MC wasn't the hacker, she shot him and now, as many under guilt, she just spiraled out fo control.

Rachel IS the actual hacker, possibly in cohoots with Emilie, both Hermas while mother and son aren't.

The "good" ending will be MC leaving town with the punk assaulter who was raped, they were there to actually save him from his sister.

Haha, jokes asides for a good while I was sure the sister shot MC into coma on purpose because she wanted to take her sister's position.
 
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Ciaran8023

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The dead sister, the one in the Xmas Photo, the one Emilie was in a relationship with. The one that actually stole the data and shot at the MC so he didn't stop her attempt to destroy the company.
It's definitely an interesting theory, but it still doesn't explain why his family wants to fucking obliterate him in every sense of the word.
I've had my doubts about the MC being supposedly a master hacker from the small tidbits we've heard of his past, so it doesn't make sense that a billion-dollar company would be unaware of all this and suspect someone like the MC with utmost certainty.

One of the biggest logical loopholes here is that they were somehow hacked and they knew nothing about it?

If this theory pans out, then the family likely is well aware that it was the sister and they're throwing the MC under the bus because he's expendable and they fucking hate his guts.. which would sort of explain their behaviour. I don't think they expected or wanted the MC to wake up from the coma and now they're in a bind because more eyes are on him and they can't just get rid of him as he also got comfy with the police, the same officer that noticed that dear sister tried to have someone raped to death to avoid them squealing to the cops.
It's about the only thing that makes sense within the framework of that theory.
 

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It's definitely an interesting theory, but it still doesn't explain why his family wants to fucking obliterate him in every sense of the word.
I've had my doubts about the MC being supposedly a master hacker from the small tidbits we've heard of his past, so it doesn't make sense that a billion-dollar company would be unaware of all this and suspect someone like the MC with utmost certainty.

One of the biggest logical loopholes here is that they were somehow hacked and they knew nothing about it?

If this theory pans out, then the family is well aware that it was the sister and they're throwing the MC under the bus because he's expendable and they fucking hate his guts.. which would sort of explain their behaviour. I don't think they expected or wanted the MC to wake up from the coma and now they're in a bind because more eyes are on him and they can't just get rid of him as he also got comfy with the police, the same officer that noticed that dear sister tried to have someone raped to death to avoid them squealing to the cops.
Em didn't have her raped to avoid her squealing, they weren't supposed to rape her just scare her for information. That was said in the phonecall between Em and the girl that did the raping. Em wanted to find out who sent the shooters, her getting raped fucked up her plans because the cops put her in protective custody now Em can't get the info she wants.

His mother doesn't hate him, that also came out this update. There were a few things in play with her. She was incredibly busy, Em didn't trust the MC and convinced her to have him watched and see if his old crew got in touch and she also thought Em was looking after him.
 
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Ciaran8023

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Em didn't have her raped to avoid her squealing, they weren't supposed to rape her just scare her for information. That was said in the phonecall between Em and the girl that did the raping. Em wanted to find out who sent the shooters, her getting raped fucked up her plans because the cops put her in protective custody now Em can't get the info she wants.
Counterpoints; she absolutely knew who she was hiring to do the "intimidation" and they had a record for doing that shit already.
Secondly, if the only reason as to why she got pissed off was because she couldn't get the info she wants, then she isn't a good person. On top of this, she didn't want the cops to get to that chick at all, which makes it AWFULLY convenient that her merry band of brigandeers put that chick in the hospital after raping her.

There's still too much "coincidence" leaning towards her favour that makes me think that she's more involved that what you'd want to believe. If anything, her reaction felt more like a "do I really have to go to this length and STILL not get results?" type reaction than anything else.

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His mother doesn't hate him, that also came out this update. There were a few things in play with her. She was incredibly busy, Em didn't trust the MC and convinced her to have him watched and see if his old crew got in touch and she also thought Em was looking after him.
Judging from their conversation while overhearing the doctors office (IIRC), the mother knows it's far more than just "looking after him" and judging from the fact that she doesn't care enough to either look into it or do something about it, she clearly doesn't give a fuck about him.
As many have pointed out thus far, the mothers behaviour up until this point makes it REAL difficult to believe that she's somehow now done a 180 and loves him unconditionally.. after ignoring him, and not giving him a way to contact anyone, and leaving him out on the street etc.

Basically, you have to suspend your disbelief a disproportionate amount to believe that the family truly cares for him.
 

anon2323j

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It's definitely an interesting theory, but it still doesn't explain why his family wants to fucking obliterate him in every sense of the word.
I've had my doubts about the MC being supposedly a master hacker from the small tidbits we've heard of his past, so it doesn't make sense that a billion-dollar company would be unaware of all this and suspect someone like the MC with utmost certainty.

One of the biggest logical loopholes here is that they were somehow hacked and they knew nothing about it?

If this theory pans out, then the family likely is well aware that it was the sister and they're throwing the MC under the bus because he's expendable and they fucking hate his guts.. which would sort of explain their behaviour. I don't think they expected or wanted the MC to wake up from the coma and now they're in a bind because more eyes are on him and they can't just get rid of him as he also got comfy with the police, the same officer that noticed that dear sister tried to have someone raped to death to avoid them squealing to the cops.
It's about the only thing that makes sense within the framework of that theory.
Not necessarily the only one that needs to be aware (doesn't even have to know tbh, just has to suspect it's a possibility) is Em who clearly hates MC with the rage of a billion suns since she gunned down the sister so save MC
 
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Ciaran8023

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Not necessarily the only one that need to be aware (doesn't even have to know tbh, just has to suspect it's a possibility) is Em who clearly hates MC with the rage of a billion suns since she gunned down the sister so save MC
Why in the world would she choose to save the MC when the family clearly ignores him at best? I'd be more inclined to believe that the older sis swung her gun against Em and Em was forced to pull the trigger, because I don't think Em would be willing to even spit on the MC if he was on fire.
 

anon2323j

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Em didn't have her raped to avoid her squealing, they weren't supposed to rape her just scare her for information. That was said in the phonecall between Em and the girl that did the raping. Em wanted to find out who sent the shooters, her getting raped fucked up her plans because the cops put her in protective custody now Em can't get the info she wants.

Oh no those unhinged psychopaths I hired to harass and assault a jail inmate went too far! who could have foreseen that prisoners with poor impulse control would go too far, literally impossible to have foreseen. 100% blind sided.


His mother doesn't hate him, that also came out this update. There were a few things in play with her. She was incredibly busy, Em didn't trust the MC and convinced her to have him watched and see if his old crew got in touch and she also thought Em was looking after him.
Apathy as an amnesiac is let lose with literally nothing but the clothes on his back is far more disgusting than hatred
 
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Counterpoints; she absolutely knew who she was hiring to do the "intimidation" and they had a record for doing that shit already.
Secondly, if the only reason as to why she got pissed off was because she couldn't get the info she wants, then she isn't a good person. On top of this, she didn't want the cops to get to that chick at all, which makes it AWFULLY convenient that her merry band of brigandeers put that chick in the hospital after raping her.

There's still too much "coincidence" leaning towards her favour that makes me think that she's more involved that what you'd want to believe. If anything, her reaction felt more like a "do I really have to go to this length and STILL not get results?" type reaction than anything else.


Judging from their conversation while overhearing the doctors office (IIRC), the mother knows it's far more than just "looking after him" and judging from the fact that she doesn't care enough to either look into it or do something about it, she clearly doesn't give a fuck about him.
As many have pointed out thus far, the mothers behaviour up until this point makes it REAL difficult to believe that she's somehow now done a 180 and loves him unconditionally.. after ignoring him, and not giving him a way to contact anyone, and leaving him out on the street etc.

Basically, you have to suspend your disbelief a disproportionate amount to believe that the family truly cares for him.
Naturally, all this love is just a farce, they themselves say this before the main idiot appears, that they need to act proactively if he starts to understand something after the photos
 
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