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Emperor_Arcturus

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Technically, the dev is stealing from the dude who actually created five nights at freddy's in the first place. Also, we're a site for pirating porn games.
I'm no legal expert but I believe that this qualifies under the whole parody law, wherein he's allowed to do this since he's not directly stealing the FNAF's guy's intellectual property, he's parodying it, though again I'm not a legal expert on the subject. As for the second part, I'm very much aware of what site I'm on and what it specializes in, trust me. I'm simply point out the... irony, I think that's what I'm trying to say here, in complaining about a dev's business policy, especially since he says it's scummy that he'd try to protect his game from us. I don't care that he's done it, I'm not surprised that someone did it, simply pointing out that he's the dev, we're a pirate site, he's obviously going to try and favor the people who pay him over us.
 

Crackle

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I'm no legal expert but I believe that this qualifies under the whole parody law, wherein he's allowed to do this since he's not directly stealing the FNAF's guy's intellectual property, he's parodying it, though again I'm not a legal expert on the subject. As for the second part, I'm very much aware of what site I'm on and what it specializes in, trust me. I'm simply point out the... irony, I think that's what I'm trying to say here, in complaining about a dev's business policy, especially since he says it's scummy that he'd try to protect his game from us. I don't care that he's done it, I'm not surprised that someone did it, simply pointing out that he's the dev, we're a pirate site, he's obviously going to try and favor the people who pay him over us.
Actually, porn isn't legally a parody. Any porn parody that exists pays royalties to the intellectual property rights owners, and had to get their permission to make the porn parody. Most people don't care about the random little guy who draws weird fetish porn of their IP, because it would be too expensive and very rarely do they actually cut into the profits of the IP owners, but any porn parody film that exists was explicitly given permission to exist by the property owners. This does mean that, for example, the owners of the TMNT franchise were contacted by a pornography studio and gave permission to that studio to make this travesty .
 
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Emperor_Arcturus

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Actually, porn isn't legally a parody. Any porn parody that exists pays royalties to the intellectual property rights owners, and had to get their permission to make the porn parody. Most people don't care about the random little guy who draws weird fetish porn of their IP, because it would be too expensive and very rarely do they actually cut into the profits of the IP owners, but any porn parody film that exists was explicitly given permission to exist by the property owners. This does mean that, for example, the owners of the TMNT franchise were contacted by a pornography studio and gave permission to that studio to make this travesty .
So anything porn related cannot be a parody? That's a really strange cutoff point for the law to work. I mean if it doesn't say specifically that porn is the cutoff point in the law, or in some law, then I'm sure you could get a lawyer who could argue that point, but still that's a strange way to handle parodies. Oh well, learn something new everyday, cool thanks!
 

Hopeless DIO

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Found a trick to bypass the DRM.
Shame the dev resorted to it. I don't support scummy business decisions but at least the wait between's tolerable now.
If anyone wants to upload builds faster than yiff.party does I'd be happy to reupload DRM-bypassed builds.
Bro do you have the build from this Friday?
 

Bacher

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well im no expert either but it seems that there is no laws whatsoever exept for "you shall not murder" on this entire planet.. only business rules to keep the poor down and the rich on top.. you want a new computer becouse you current is like 15 years old now?.. sorry but you will have to work hard and live on noodles for like 2-3 years to save money to do that.. and that is very harsh for a little lonely nerd with no social life.. lol
 

sergl

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Since a couple people have been PMing me asking for the latest version and I don't trust Mega enough to not have a game dev who's both semi-active and has convinced me in the past that they will likely try to retaliate against me uploading their stuff, (They added an auto IP-Banner to anyone who uses 'stolen' or 'shared' keys.) FOREWARNING: You NEED to replace Level1 and Level1.ResS with a public build's Level1 and Level1.ResS to bypass the DRM and lack of a play button. I tested accessing it through tor and webproxies to see if the servers can be downloaded from through non-whitelisted IPs and it seems to accept them, or at least the two IPs I've spoofed.
And just for the hell of it, 's a direct link from Smutcube's own website for the alpha APK of the game (For android). Inb4 they delete the link on their end because, god forbid, it 'prevents sales' or 'isn't representative of their finished product' or some other DRM marketing bull.

The main game and story-mode nights work, gallery seems to crash the game. To access the new Fredrika scene, have Bonnie shut your power off while Fredrika is waiting at the door. Do not open it. Also Chica will auto-endgame you if she sneaks in while you're facing the right door, regardless of whether Fredrika's there, door's closed etc.

Hope you guys enjoy it. If this doesn't get me bananahammer'd, I'll directlink the next time some charitable soul uploads to Yiff.Party.
 

smutcube

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Since a couple people have been PMing me asking for the latest version and I don't trust Mega enough to not have a game dev who's both semi-active and has convinced me in the past that they will likely try to retaliate against me uploading their stuff, (They added an auto IP-Banner to anyone who uses 'stolen' or 'shared' keys.) FOREWARNING: You NEED to replace Level1 and Level1.ResS with a public build's Level1 and Level1.ResS to bypass the DRM and lack of a play button. I tested accessing it through tor and webproxies to see if the servers can be downloaded from through non-whitelisted IPs and it seems to accept them, or at least the two IPs I've spoofed.
And just for the hell of it, 's a direct link from Smutcube's own website for the alpha APK of the game (For android). Inb4 they delete the link on their end because, god forbid, it 'prevents sales' or 'isn't representative of their finished product' or some other DRM marketing bull.

The main game and story-mode nights work, gallery seems to crash the game. To access the new Fredrika scene, have Bonnie shut your power off while Fredrika is waiting at the door. Do not open it. Also Chica will auto-endgame you if she sneaks in while you're facing the right door, regardless of whether Fredrika's there, door's closed etc.

Hope you guys enjoy it. If this doesn't get me bananahammer'd, I'll directlink the next time some charitable soul uploads to Yiff.Party.
Sounds like you built yourself a pretty nice scarecrow, but it's not very accurate.

First and foremost I bear no ill will to anyone who "pirates" my stuff, it's part of the game development ecosystem. I'm definitely not going to retaliate against someone re-uploading my game, especially a free one. The Patreon authentication system has some built in systems of when to "stop listening" to requests from IP's. One of those being that if it receives the request of an access code that has been submitted 100's of times before unsuccessfully it simply says "okay I'm not listening to you anymore" and labels the IP as untrustworthy. There's no malice behind it, and anyone who has requested to be unbanned has been. The IP bans also do not effect public builds so you won't be stopped from playing those releases because you got curious.

I didn't add DRM because I was afraid of losing money, the opposite is true. Whenever a build is posted here I get a round of exposure and my Patreon funds go up, hence it benefits me financially to let the builds continuously be released.

In the words of LeVar Burton: "But, you don't have to take my word for it":

The original post in July brought me up from $300 to $600.
The post on October 13th brought me up $100 over the course of a week.
The post in December brought me up $200 in equally short order.

Personally, the exposure is well worth the builds being "pirated" if I only cared about money. I would totally pump that exposure machine for everything its worth, I would even pirate my own builds every week. I do it because I feel a moral obligation to. People donate to me, and beta access is their reward. If I'm able to stop people from getting that reward without supporting me, and I choose not to, I'm complicit in ripping them off. No DRM is perfect and I'm not some grand master programmer but if I see a hole I know how to patch I'm going to patch it.

I hate talking about money, but as a final thought on the subject: if all I wanted was money I could make more part time at McDonald's without worrying about business expenses, self employment tax, and the time investment to even get to the point I'm at now. This is a hobby for me, a good way to learn php, c#, animation, and general game development but its mostly something I do for fun.

On the Android APK:
The Android APK still requires an access code, and you'll need to find a different exploit for it since the APK's file system is different and there's no public APK to copy from even if it wasn't. It's also barely functional and "isn't representative of [a] finished product" there have been no accommodations made to incorporate touch controls, I was simply making a build to see how much work would need to be done and threw it up as an after thought. When I release the public version (coming up in 2-3 weeks) I'll release a free android APK build so that everyone can see what's possible (and what a broken mess it is).

Finally, I'd like to reiterate: the game is free, the same day that the bugs have been squashed and all the content is implemented is the same day I upload the build for the public. Patrons essentially just receive more frequent updates which are often buggy and contain incomplete content. On release day there's 0 difference between what Patron's have and what the public has.
 

timmys666

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i dont mind the wait for the fleshed out builds because having more refined gameplay and animation is what everyone wants one way or another, i just cant wait to see where the road leads and what treasures are at the end of the trail, and smutcube do u have a road map of content you plan on adding or is it a on the fly type thing? i think most of us here would love to see the direction your going even if its just a week or so into the future!
 

Vec

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Jul 2, 2018
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Any patreon can update the smutcube page in yiff.party?, please i wish to see the new build progress.
 
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To access the new Fredrika scene, have Bonnie shut your power off while Fredrika is waiting at the door. Do not open it. Also Chica will auto-endgame you if she sneaks in while you're facing the right door, regardless of whether Fredrika's there, door's closed etc.
For what I'm reading, it seems mostly like your only viable effective option is to try to suicide you by turning off all the lamps when you think that Bonnie could be approaching the hacking of the tablet, since there's so short time while Fredrika stays at the door (roughly 2 seconds at the best), so that you can hope that by the time you turn all off, Fredrika will be baited, and by the time she arrives Bonnie will have completed the hacking of the terminal, unless there will be some specific trigger that will just require you with the hacking in execution, while just blocking the door to Fredrika.
 

gmant

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For what I'm reading, it seems mostly like your only viable effective option is to try to suicide you by turning off all the lamps when you think that Bonnie could be approaching the hacking of the tablet, since there's so short time while Fredrika stays at the door (roughly 2 seconds at the best), so that you can hope that by the time you turn all off, Fredrika will be baited, and by the time she arrives Bonnie will have completed the hacking of the terminal, unless there will be some specific trigger that will just require you with the hacking in execution, while just blocking the door to Fredrika.
She will stay at the door forever once all the lights are turned off.
 

Crackle

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So anything porn related cannot be a parody? That's a really strange cutoff point for the law to work. I mean if it doesn't say specifically that porn is the cutoff point in the law, or in some law, then I'm sure you could get a lawyer who could argue that point, but still that's a strange way to handle parodies. Oh well, learn something new everyday, cool thanks!
Basically. The definition of a parody is any work or character that is a humorously exaggerated imitation of a writer, artist, or genre, created specifically to be that parody. Being a parody does not automatically exempt one from copyright, however. Parody's can exist for any number of reasons, for making fun of someone, critiquing something you find dumb, or drawing attention to an issue in an exaggerated or humorous manner, and generally the intent is not to make money from these. The parody itself is always based off an existing work, which means that the work is owned by someone. If you ran around making porn parodies of, say, Disney's princess movies (I'm sure this exists), then you would be creating a parody of Disney's existing characters, for which they own the rights. If you then sold these porno's, then you are profiting off of Disney's work. For this reason, parody's are not exempt from copyright by being parody's, but (usually) by having the intent to critique the existing work.
 
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Shame the dev resorted to it.
"Shame the dev resorted to it."? Sorry but you shaming the Dev means that you are easily offended by the Dev's actions, and if I am correct then just leave this thread and find some other thread to go on. We don't need toxicity here, if the Dev chooses something then we should accept it. If its something we don't enjoy we will find a way around it. No need to argue or become all bitchy about it. If we can stay calm and collected then we are able to keep this thread full of nice people. Not toxic people.
 
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*cough*

Doesn't seem to work, unfortunately, even with the level1 fix.

Level1 fix makes it crash for me, I actually don't know if it works as intended.

Level0 crashes, Level2 opens with no play button. Will keep trying.

None of them work :(
 

SonaraFox

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Jul 6, 2017
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Anyone patrons that want to share their code with me? haha
Everyone gets one specific code tied to their patreon and in turn their IP and what not iirc, so codes being used across multiple computers and distances will flag the code and get banned by the server requiring an unbanning from smutcube and I assume in turn a new code produced. So most definitely not.
 
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