Jwow3

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The chink in her armor is the same as Rye's though, the only difference is she's been coping way harder for far longer. You could play it like
>brings on MC as a temporary attendant slave pet thing
>Renée is extremely sadistic and is prone to random acts of cruelty, as normal
>She notices the PC is abnormally loyal to her despite the abuse
>She puts him through a series of Demetria like trials to prove yet again that her philosophy is correct
>Have her go too far, and the plot goes off the rails as these routes tend to
>probably end up defeating a business associate of hers and foil their maniacal scheme or something
>Final heel turn, Renée goes full mask off in one last attempt to drive MC off
>it doesn't work
>she cracks

Is one way it could go anyway. I mean I get people want a straight up Stockholm syndrome arc (which it could still mostly be), but the seeds of Renee's redemption arc were already planted in her daughter's. The writing doesn't have to be exclaimed literature tier, it's a porn game.
This makes a lot of sense. I get the feeling that Renée may even consider going along with the "game" of the MC claiming he likes/loves her in a good mood or as a way to amuse herself and pose numerous challenges to prove that he's just a lying male. Even going so far as to arrange him getting caputred and raped by a colleague or business rival later on when she worries that he may be serious in order for him to prove his devotion.

The ironic twist for me remains that she did honestly try to love a male in the past and despite her vilainess-ness it just makes sense to me that she would love the right male. It can only be one route though since it feels like an all or nothing thing. Either you win the lottery and get all the love and power by grinding it out or you fail in any small way and become some level of subhuman meat, how subhuman depending on how far you made it and her mood on the day.
 

Khuntai

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This makes a lot of sense. I get the feeling that Renée may even consider going along with the "game" of the MC claiming he likes/loves her in a good mood or as a way to amuse herself and pose numerous challenges to prove that he's just a lying male. Even going so far as to arrange him getting caputred and raped by a colleague or business rival later on when she worries that he may be serious in order for him to prove his devotion.

The ironic twist for me remains that she did honestly try to love a male in the past and despite her vilainess-ness it just makes sense to me that she would love the right male. It can only be one route though since it feels like an all or nothing thing. Either you win the lottery and get all the love and power by grinding it out or you fail in any small way and become some level of subhuman meat, how subhuman depending on how far you made it and her mood on the day.
Pretty much. To get in some variation for the more hardcore subs I'd probably throw in some alternative ends where you pass all of her trials but make yourself too much of a sex object for her to respect. Like maybe there's a devotion check and a respect gauge. You fail one devotion check and that's it, instant bad end tailored to the specific scene. But you also need to keep the respect gauge high enough so that she sees you as somewhat of an equal, like she did her ex husband.
 
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swells3674

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I hope for once they dont overintellectualize it. She is a villain, let her be a villain.
we've been through the whole "maybe it just takes a very dedicated male" thing enough times now. I'm still not over how tedious the Wallis stuff ended up being. Have her be non-chalantly dominant. We don't need a 300 page diary about "why" ever again.
fucking thank you. i thought i was on an island in thinking the faux-serious wallis stuff was tiring and trying to seem cleverer than it actually was
 

ggcomp10

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Why is the gallery always fully unlocked when installing a game? If you delete the save, everything opens again, I didn’t put the mod on the gallery
I dont know if you figured it out or not but I was having the same problem and so I went into the package contents. There was a gallery mod unlocker already in there, so I removed it and it has seemed to work
 

jakeb733

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Hey, I can't find the silhoutte in the last changelong:
"
Not
Cuck?:
  • New silhouette at the City Center.
  • A weirdly wholesome look at a modern Imperial marriage
"
Can anyone point me to it?
 

Scotsman1989

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Has the loving Demetria with Claudia content been added yet?

Demetria is pure, mature PERFECTION.
But her base ending where the MC is broken by her and others in front of thousands of futa's, though sexy as fuck, it's still a bad end with her.
I remember the last time I played her route, though that was a good while ago.
There was a greyed out choice near the end of her path which required high relationship points with Claudia, but it was not implemented yet.
 
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