VN Ren'Py Abandoned Gates Motel [v0.6] [P_S_Y_C_H_O]

[Wanlongcok]

You lost me at Mom's shitty granny panties. Seriously, I feel like I need a shower after reading this. Awesome writing if you are going for a truly disturbing horror story, but this seems more like shameless pandering to niche fetishes. Without the "avoidable content", there isn't much content at all ... just a long car ride, too many hands, and some dirty panties that MC steals to do absolutely nothing with. Was the washing machine in the missing renders?
To be honest, I could power through of the more questionable stuff for a good story, but the execution suggests that story development will always be an afterthought. Who puts out an update that you have to go back and replay just because the developer left out half the renders because he/she was too busy describing MC's mom's body odor in intricate detail? Shorter, complete updates would be better.
Also, stop blaming poor lighting on people's monitors. Developer clearly needs to study more if they are going to do low-light renders. There is no such thing as "natural lighting" in CGI. Amateurs insist that the viewers adjust monitors that work fine for all other content. Professionals find ways to sneak in lights to achieve the desired effect without sacrificing viewability. A few landscaping lights on that staircase would do wonders. MC could also wear a miner's helmet to add more light to the upskirt shots. It would be no more of a stretch than Mom not noticing her son lying on the ground to look up her dress. If this was another time when reality and MC fantasy blur, why not make her dress disappear like it did 5 seconds later?
Sorry to be so negative, but it is extremely disappointing to see a story with so much promise turn into a fettie catfishing expedition so quickly.

 

[P_S_Y_C_H_O]

Without the "avoidable content", there isn't much content at all

People are different. You could also describe what kind of content is good for you. I'm sure there will be a bunch of people that will be disgusted by that. It's kinda not fair, and win-win situation. Just blame smth you don't like, without mentioning, what you do like. That kind of behavior is pathetic by itself.
I was going to make all 'dirty shit' skippable. Not sure, should I even be bothered by such kind of feedback.

Who puts out an update that you have to go back and replay just because the developer left out half the renders because he/she was too busy describing MC's mom's body odor in intricate detail?

Not sure, if I got what you mean. Intro is skippable. Arrival will be skippable, too. It's not 'intricate detail'. Just few lines of text. You can skip it.
Again, people are different. Sorry, if it's not for you so much, that you had to create so huge comment and waste your time on it, without just passing by.

Also, stop blaming poor lighting on people's monitors.

Did I ever blame someone? I even created a poll to gather some info about it. Gathering a feedback about it. Most people (60%) find it
little bit too dark.

With 3% - that can't see a shit. But looks like the main issue - is on their end. Others are trolls.
BUT AGAIN, I already said few times, that there will be no such darkness anymore.

There is no such thing as "natural lighting" in CGI. Amateurs insist that the viewers adjust monitors that work fine for all other content. Professionals find ways to sneak in lights to achieve the desired effect without sacrificing viewability.

What makes you think that I'm a pro? I'm flattered as fuck.
Just one update with enough of feedback to move on.
Also, stop blaming the Devs about their content, without reading THE WHOLE thread first. Sometimes it sounds too important, like in this case.
It sounds almost like you are a porn game expert.

A few landscaping lights on that staircase would do wonders.

Which staircase is not lightened enough for you? There is only one, and I don't think that scene was lacking light.

MC could also wear a miner's helmet to add more light to the upskirt shots. It would be no more of a stretch than Mom not noticing her son lying on the ground to look up her dress. If this was another time when reality and MC fantasy blur, why not make her dress disappear like it did 5 seconds later?

When he dropped to the ground, it was his attempt to look under her dress at 20:00. The next scene (2 images with upskirt, and also next one with naked Norma) was his imagination, where I had to increase the lighting 10 times, use Photoshop to combine different lights, decrease contrast, to make it more or less believable and visible. I'm aiming at realistic images. I already know that some of 'arrival' part was too dark for some people, and won't do it so dark anymore. As I said before, few times.

Sorry to be so negative, but it is extremely disappointing to see a story with so much promise turn into a fettie catfishing expedition so quickly.

You could also start from positive feedback, describing what you liked in this game. But you have started from bitching. I don't even know who can and should listen to that kind of feedback seriously, changing anything especially for that sort of people. You just make this site a shithole and a place where the Dev's don't want to return, if you analyze this issue just little bit.
Just stop demanding. No one owes you anything.
But we can speak freely and discuss anything you like.
You can try to change your mood when commenting. Maybe that will help.
I'll finish with what I have started with.
People are different.
One hates Rose, another - Norma. Other people say, tat I should drop Savage, because she is too dumb. Alex should go to a nearest asylum, and Grace has too hairy ass.
If I will listen to EVERYONE, there will be NO GAME at all.
All in all, you sound almost like a porn game expert. I wish there was such kind of thing, but there isn't.
People are different. Some people are commenting what they like, others - just have so much time to jerk off, that they don't get enough fap material, they just stay negative all the time - until they find something, to suit them to jerk off to.
I'm sorry, if that this game didn't make it for you.
But I'm not sure, if there is a Dev, that should/gladly will/must/need to listen to such kind of feedback, and do whatever they say.
It will ruin the game completely. There is no need in such kind of feedback at all.
Just try to inhale-exhale few times...
And TRY to find smth ESPECIALLY for you.
Cheers!
Sorry, if I sounded too rude somewhere. English is not my native. Just a feedback to a feedback.

 

[natecali23]

Really like this game so far. A question for the dev: I know right now there are two routes for the homeless girl. A kinder approach and one that is a bit meaner. This game seems like it has the potential to really break some boundaries. I was wondering if the more darker approach to the homeless girl involves some sort of slave/dom relationship where the homeless girl's survival relies solely on what the MC provides? Basically my question is how dark is the "dark" route? Keep up the good work man and just ignore the trolls on here.

 

[P_S_Y_C_H_O]

Really like this game so far. A question for the dev: I know right now there are two routes for the homeless girl. A kinder approach and one that is a bit meaner. This game seems like it has the potential to really break some boundaries. I was wondering if the more darker approach to the homeless girl involves some sort of slave/dom relationship where the homeless girl's survival relies solely on what the MC provides? Basically my question is how dark is the "dark" route? Keep up the good work man and just ignore the trolls on here.

I don't think there should be some boundaries in porn games, if you can skip and avoid it.
I was going to implement slave sex pet.
She is frustrated. Hates MC. Shivering, when he comes back. Doing what he wants. Being punished - when doesn't obey.
Assplug. Bathing. Feeding. Raping. Don't think there should be death tho.
Shit, I'm crying just writing it. It will be difficult.

 

[P_S_Y_C_H_O]

I'm gonna need multiple save files for this I think, one for the dark and then one for absolving my shame from the dark.

Jesus, I hate it. When you have to replay all the shit just to open some special content. It's unavoidable in this case.
But, it seems, people like when there is a difficult walkthrough, that they have to alt-tab to every now and then. They start to talk about the game continuously, asking for some secret stuff, routes, saves and walkthroughs. I don't get it, tbh.

 

[Abîme]

esus, I hate it. When you have to replay all the shit just to open some special content. It's unavoidable in this case.
But, it seems, people like when there is a difficult walkthrough, that they have to alt-tab to every now and then. They start to talk about the game continuously, asking for some secret stuff, routes, saves and walkthroughs. I don't get it, tbh.

Do the game has you want, people don't known what they want until you show it to them.

 

[P_S_Y_C_H_O]

I much prefer linear games where i can get the content easily, but you can't really do it if people want both a nice and a dark route.

Me too, but I'm starting to think, that it will be better for game to be in need of a walkthrough, with repeatable stuff.
Seems that people like it. I'd better do it for people, not only for myself. Otherwise it'll die and stay on my HDD.

 

[Bakkalon]

I have no problems with linear games, i actually prefer them.

Sandbox elements can be good,but many times they just become a waste of time.

 

[P_S_Y_C_H_O]

I have no problems with linear games, i actually prefer them.

Sandbox elements can be good,but many times they just become a waste of time.

I agree. But people like to have sandbox. It makes the game 'bigger'. You spend 80% of time on repetitive shit, and it still feels like a game. Nothing illegal

 

[Abîme]

I agree. But people like to have sandbox. It makes the game 'bigger'. You spend 80% of time on repetitive shit, and it still feels like a game. Nothing illegal

No please

 

[Wanlongcok]

People are different. You could also describe what kind of content is good for you. I'm sure there will be a bunch of people that will be disgusted by that. It's kinda not fair, and win-win situation. Just blame smth you don't like, without mentioning, what you do like. That kind of behavior is pathetic by itself.
I was going to make all 'dirty shit' skippable. Not sure, should I even be bothered by such kind of feedback.

Not sure, if I got what you mean. Intro is skippable. Arrival will be skippable, too. It's not 'intricate detail'. Just few lines of text. You can skip it.
Again, people are different. Sorry, if it's not for you so much, that you had to create so huge comment and waste your time on it, without just passing by.

Did I ever blame someone? I even created a poll to gather some info about it. Gathering a feedback about it. Most people (60%) find it
little bit too dark.
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With 3% - that can't see a shit. But looks like the main issue - is on their end. Others are trolls.
BUT AGAIN, I already said few times, that there will be no such darkness anymore.

What makes you think that I'm a pro? I'm flattered as fuck.
Just one update with enough of feedback to move on.
Also, stop blaming the Devs about their content, without reading THE WHOLE thread first. Sometimes it sounds too important, like in this case.
It sounds almost like you are a porn game expert.

Which staircase is not lightened enough for you? There is only one, and I don't think that scene was lacking light.

When he dropped to the ground, it was his attempt to look under her dress at 20:00. The next scene (2 images with upskirt, and also next one with naked Norma) was his imagination, where I had to increase the lighting 10 times, use Photoshop to combine different lights, decrease contrast, to make it more or less believable and visible. I'm aiming at realistic images. I already know that some of 'arrival' part was too dark for some people, and won't do it so dark anymore. As I said before, few times.

You could also start from positive feedback, describing what you liked in his game. But you have started from bitching. I don't even know who can and should listen to that kind of feedback seriously, changing anything especially for that sort of people.
You can try to change your mood when commenting. Maybe that will help.
I'll finish with what I have started with.
People are different.
One hates Rose, another - Norma. Other people say, tat I should drop Savage, because she is too dumb. Alex should go to a nearest asylum, and Grace has too hairy ass.
If I will listen to EVERYONE, there will be NO GAME at all.
All in all, you sound almost like a porn game expert. I wish there was such kind of thing, but there's not.
People are different. Some people are commenting what they like, others - just have so much time to jerk off, that they just stay negative all the time - until they find something, to jerk off to.
I'm sorry, if that this game didn't make it for you.
But I'm not sure, if there is a Dev, that should/gladly will/must/need to listen to such kind of feedback, and do whatever they say.
It will ruin the game completely. There is no need in such kind of feedback at all.
Just try to inhale-exhale few times...
And TRY to find smth ESPECIALLY for you.
Cheers!
Sorry, if I sounded too rude somewhere. English is not my native. Just a feedback to a feedback.

You want details, fine. You want compliments, I can do that too. First off, you are an excellent writer, so much so that the "me no speaky ingrish" crutch you keep wielding wreaks of a bullshit artist who got caught catfishing the retards and is afraid of losing your meal ticket. That is also why it is so frustrating when you fake it and lie about what you are doing. I also like the attention you spend at making the characters realistic. You took the time to feminize a male character to make a believable trans character, rather than slapping a futalicious cock on a female and calling it a day. That said, you seem to lack the understanding that there is a difference between futa and trans. I'm not turned on by either, but at least know the difference. If you are going to write about either one credibly, you should at least do enough research to know what you are pandering to. Alex would be more believable as a gay character than trans. I'm not saying rewrite the whole thing, but you should put "Gay" in the OP content description

If you are going to go through the trouble of taking a poll about lighting AND interrupt your own game with a graph, take the fucking time to acknowledge your shortcomings in the OP, instead of berating someone for not sifting through 62 pages of comments to find where you claim to have mentioned it. Literally 83% of the people you polled said the images were some form of too dark, yet you keep insisting that it is fine. I get it, lighting can be tough, especially in DAZ. Admitting that you are struggling with it will go a lot farther than treating someone who calls you on it like a crackpot.

Back to the choice of "avoidable content", perhaps you need a 3rd option, or more opportunities to choose. Being ok with armpit hair does not mean that the reader is automatically into sniffing smelly armpits and licking butt sweat. You presume too much. By all means, add that content if you like, but don't assume that body hair and body odor are interchangeable. The same goes with trans content. There are degrees of acceptability that not everyone shares. For me, sister's cock in MC's mouth is a hard "no", but lesser degrees are more acceptable. I don't expect everyone to share those beliefs, or insist that you water down your content, but if you are going to do this for profit (which you are), it would behoove you to find a way to appeal to the largest audience possible. With you, it's all or nothing, and anyone who disagrees is obviously a crank. Honesty about your content will get you a lot farther than misleading people into believing that there is something for everyone when most of your content is targeted towards fetishes shared by most serial killers.

Here's the thing, if you were writing this game as a horror VN with x-rated elements, I would be your biggest fan. Your fetish choices fit most FBI serial killer profiles perfectly. If that is your actual goal, I sincerely apologize. Kill Rose, stuff her, and tagteam her rotting corpse with Alex while Grace sucks the blood out of Mom's tampons. Do deranged psychopath right. It seems, however, that you are trying to normalize bizarre fetishes and hide your lack of CG and script writing skills with snark and insult. You can get by with deferring visual content in a sandbox game with repeatable actions, but "content under construction" is unacceptable in the middle of a linear story update. What's the matter, can't get indoor lighting right either?

Sorry if I sound rude, but that bullshit sandwich you served left a bad taste in my mouth.

 

[P_S_Y_C_H_O]

Sorry if I sound rude, but that bullshit sandwich you served left a bad taste in my mouth.

You can wash it then

 

[jamdan]

Sandbox games can be fun , but they really need to have a "hint" system. Nothing worse than clicking everything and not knowing what you're supposed to be doing. Repetitive stuff really depends on what it is, i think training the hobo girl can have some repetition as it makes sense for her training IMO but im not sure the other characters need it. Should build relations with the other characters through dialog decisions.

I don't think a difficult walkthrough is necessary though, you can have different routes and not need walkthroughts. Our-Fate is a game with several routes, and you don't need a guide. You pick between a dark and light route at the beginning and then its all " General Choice A or B" and that will determine what the sub-routes are. Pretty self-explanatory stuff.

 

[P_S_Y_C_H_O]

Sandbox games can be fun , but they really need to have a "hint" system. Nothing worse than clicking everything and not knowing what you're supposed to be doing. Repetitive stuff really depends on what it is, i think training the hobo girl can have some repetition as it makes sense for her training IMO but im not sure the other characters need it. Should build relations with the other characters through dialog decisions.

I don't think a difficult walkthrough is necessary though, you can have different routes and not need walkthroughts. Our-Fate is a game with several routes, and you don't need a guide. You pick between a dark and light route at the beginning and then its all " General Choice A or B" and that will determine what the sub-routes are. Pretty self-explanatory stuff.

Yes, I agree

 

[P_S_Y_C_H_O]

He brings up a good point though, any plans for scat?

If there's an asset available - I didn't find it yet. I guess, I'll have to create it by myself. Didn't try it yet though.

 

[P_S_Y_C_H_O]

I have no idea how getting daz assets works, but good luck to you.

create 3D model in 3DMax and ZBrush, create texture in Substance Painter. Import into DAZ. Smth like that. Thanks

 

[jonrage39]

I have no problems with linear games, i actually prefer them.

Sandbox elements can be good,but many times they just become a waste of time.

Also seems like sandbox games are more likely to get abandoned and left unfinished.

 

[P_S_Y_C_H_O]

Also seems like sandbox games are more likely to get abandoned and left unfinished.

But it feels like so much content, that it's just enough whenever they are being abandoned.

 

[Alteni]

You can wash it then

NICE ONE

 

[P_S_Y_C_H_O]

I think devs making sandoboxes for their first game often overextend themselves, best to keep it simple till you've got some experience.

I still think that the writing will be groomed for every possible choice.
If you decided smth few hudreds of lines of code earlier - MC can not talk about smth here. Or otherwise...
Keeping all that shit in my head. I don't remember, what was for breakfast today.