Magister Masquerade

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Because they're not based in Japan and don't do business in Japan. These titles are usually self published in Japan and internationally get picked up by foreign publishers who throw a couple of bucks at an artist to do re-draws.


Or they have no interest in running the risk of getting prosecuted by a bored DA because they drew penises and vagina without black bars over them. Just having them publicly available as a business operating in Japan could be interpreted as attempting to circumvent the law.


Because Fume and the rest of their team published under the Otaku Plan label for the steam release. I'm guessing Otaku Plan leaves it up to the artists themselves if they want to bother with making uncensored art and the answer is probably, typically, going to be 'no' because the bulk of their money is made in Japan. And Otaku Plan for their part don't appear to be swimming in money, going by how their website looks.
There are tons of Japanese works published underneath their original Japanese names, creators, and/or labels. And no, they are not just thrown "a couple bucks." A lot of them get really good deals to split profit in exchange for translation work, and they don't redraw the art, they use originals or redraw just the censored part. That's why dlsite became strict on censorship and required them to be baked onto assets, because the vast majority of games on DLSITE didn't have real censorship, but barebones post-production censorship. No one draws mosiacs as part of their artistic style, lol.

And I really don't think you know what you're talking about. This same exact issues apply to visual novels, many of which are from huge professional labels and circles with huge libraries worth thousands and maybe millions in some cases, and they also release uncensored.

Yes, it's usually (but not always) a third party, but that's normal for a lot of games, even SFW games (and a lot of other media, actually). They use local distribution partners (or global ones with established local offices) to make things easier for them. What these distributors actually do is translate the games usually (which is part of overall localization), the censorship is a distant perk but sometimes they censor even more if they have to depending on the region, like with China.

Japan's laws regarding censorship only matter for products in Japan, even if it's purchased internationally. So if the store is Japanese-based, Japanese laws apply... like literally everywhere else in the world. What third parties do is offer localization services, and since they're not being sold in Japan, they don't have to abide by Japanese laws but by local laws.

They're not risking being sued at all. Once again, just because you have someone else commit a crime on your behalf doesn't mean you're scot-free from the crime. Native laws usually apply abroad. That's why you will get in trouble for prostitution as a US citizen even if you go to a country where it's legal, because as a US citizen it's illegal to you.

There's nothing shady or under the table here, they are complying with the law faithfully by having someone else localize the game for their respective region or doing it themselves in accordance with Japanese law which specifically allows this, as the trade laws of all major countries do. Usually, the single requirement is that it's not being sold to Japanese or on a Japanese store.

The only real reason a dev/circle releases the game censored outside of Japan is stupidity or laziness. They were either too stupid to keep uncensored assets stored or they were too lazy to pay someone to clean up their mistake properly for a western release.

There's a reason why Ghenna is like the only of a very few Japanese games on Steam that are still censored and why everyone here is so surprised, lmao. It's not normal. There's a reason for that.
 
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Stop crying about censorship. We don't care. What do you want to do about it ? If you don't like it, make a review with 1 star, nobody will read it and get out. :)
If the censorship is a problem for you in an hentai game, you just don't like hentai. :KEK:
 
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They're not risking being sued at all.
No, they're at risk of being arrested. Distributing uncensored porn in Japan is a criminal offense, not a civil one. And if we're looking for a barometer for "What qualifies again?"





People are understandably trigger shy about making uncensored porn in Japan. It's much easier to avoid running astray of the law when you simply never engage in the practice to begin with and leave it up to license holders and publishers to do it.

There's a reason why Ghenna is like the only of a very few Japanese games on Steam that are still censored and why everyone here is so surprised, lmao. It's not normal. There's a reason for that.
Because eroge sold in the US are done via licenses purchased by local publishers.
 

Leo D. Marstone

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Stop crying about censorship. We don't care. What do you want to do about it ? If you don't like it, make a review with 1 star, nobody will read it and get out. :)
If the censorship is a problem for you in an hentai game, you just don't like hentai. :KEK:
Now thats an opinion I guess. Who is this we you talk about?

We all love hentai...but we all love hentai even more if it is uncensored. I will never get used to the mosaics and I play eroges for 2 decades now. Especially mosaics in 3D.

I don't actually understand what you try to accomplish here.

Are you advocating for censorship in general or what? Get outta here :KEK:
 

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Are you advocating for censorship in general or what? Get outta here :KEK:
If you specifically consume hentai you really should develop a thick skin towards censorship since all hentai categorically starts as a censored image. The only reason you ever have access to uncensored images is because of people who are either playing fast and loose with terms, or because of the time and dedication of people who generally work for free, or peanuts, who go through the effort of redraws.

No, obviously uncensored work is preferred but treating censored work as some personal offense is a bit much.
 

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I'm probably missing something really obvious, but where do you find piggy Chan I somehow missed her.
It is early in the demon route. Go left from the starting city (following the red arrow). It is between this city and the portal to the demon world.
This character is 100% useless, no sex scene. It is a good support but nothing of interest in a H-game :D
 
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Leo D. Marstone

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No, obviously uncensored work is preferred but treating censored work as some personal offense is a bit much.
I never did. I just found the post I quoted as a strange reaction.

With one thing was Magister Masquerade correct and that was that Gehenna sticks out of most if not every japanese game that was made available to the west as still censored. Take it or leave it.

I don't shy away of buying japanese products that got uncensored if I am able to. Take the Rance games for example.

Gehenna still being censored is a factor that lost me as a customer. The english translation is nice but to be honest we can translate games pretty easy by ourselves nowadays. Especially RPGMV games. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It is what it is.
 
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