lamba

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Are there bad endings for losing to enemies/bosses or are there only the bad endings mentioned for routes?
There are a few specific endings that can only be unlocked by losing specific fights. But it's not a bad ending where it then immediately railroads you into a cutscene and a 'game over' screen. The H-scene room will tell you every fight you need to lose to unlock their respective endings, although I can only think of two off the top of my head.
 
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Reversedh

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anyone know how to trigger spreading of demon lord part 1?
i cant find the place for that. I'm lost.
 

lamba

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anyone know how to trigger spreading of demon lord part 1?
i cant find the place for that. I'm lost.
It's done over here on floor 5. The room of H recollections (the white crystal back at the starting town) will tell you how to acquire all H scenes.
 
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Reversedh

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It's done over here on floor 5. The room of H recollections (the white crystal back at the starting town) will tell you how to acquire all H scenes.
thank you, one more question. Where's the location to trigger the event before this "spreading of demon lord 1"
The hint said i need to find Room of seal, i only know it's in the thousand world location. Don't know how to find it. 1736857246409.png
 

Thokeus

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Can someone explain to me what taboo object do exactly ?
It's a bit unclear, but I think Taboo changes several things:

First, in specific instances, it closes/open specific areas/add dialogs. This is usually a case of what you did to get the Taboo though.

Second, it gives more stats when you go through rebirth, though I haven't tested this myself.

Third, I am pretty sure some specific enemies only appear if you have Taboo: alternate Lolina on demon route, Alternate Shuuka or dark gather route, and alternate Sherry on Wriggle route. In specific places they also appear as a team, too.

Fourth, "sexy" enemies now move, rather than stay immobile.

Fifth, random npcs now can't be walked through, which includes shuuka/lolina for their routes, and some of them get very excited and can make just walking around a pain.

just wondering for anyone who has really explored, is there any more to lolina's backstory/lore after doing the true ending? the game puts out this really cryptic kind of messaging like you might be able to delve into the past even more or stuff after the true ending (or.. did i do things out of order...?)

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i know its dumb as hell to ask about lore/deep diving for a game like this lol but mostly trying to see if i missed any content since i been waiting for this game translated forever
I'm also a bit confused at some of the lore, especially the time quartz and white rose stuff (I guess ROSE incoming game will tell us more there). I get the impression that maybe Time Quartz was brainwashed by Sherryl and then ended up being the boss you fight at the end of wriggle route + first fights of Sherryl bost fights?

As for Lolina, my impression is that in sherryl's original world Lolina went insane and killed Sherryl's husband and son. Sherryl then created a world designed to give her the power to ressurect them, and had alternate version of Lolina there.

This is why Sherryl is seen a few times wanting Lolina to suffer as much as possible.
 

lamba

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I think it is possible, but you must farm farm farm the infinite dungeon and do some reborn... I don't want to do this xD And I don't know if it give something because even if we lose, we get the achievement about the last ending.
The game has a New Game+ system that directly ports your old character equipment, items and levels, and you're expected to replay the game ~3 times. The green route isn't even playable your first time around without some insane grinding.

i know its dumb as hell to ask about lore/deep diving for a game like this lol but mostly trying to see if i missed any content since i been waiting for this game translated forever
The content's there for a reason and the game seemingly wants to be taken seriously at times. I'm pretty sure the cryptic comments about Lolina's extended story relates to the extra endings you can unlock for her.

It's a bit unclear, but I think Taboo changes several things:
Taboos relate to a number of endings. It also causes 'taboo' enemies to spawn (instead of the normal red, blue and purple sprites you will see an occasional black one) related to some of the endings. If you've reached an area where everything is black except for some skeletons, you've found a location affected by a taboo you triggered.


Anyone know what the attached dialogue is talking about?
 

Thokeus

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Btw, anyone knows if you actually can go higher than 9999 or if tutorials mentioning getting higher is a remnant of things cut in the game (I am talking about the rebirth tutorial).

Taboos relate to a number of endings. It also causes 'taboo' enemies to spawn (instead of the normal red, blue and purple sprites you will see an occasional black one) related to some of the endings. If you've reached an area where everything is black except for some skeletons, you've found a location affected by a taboo you triggered.
I got all the endings but I haven't seen anything obvious about Taboo there.

Yeah, the extra enemies are the alternate lolina/shunka/sherryl I mentioned, which are conviently level 4444 and are kinda puzzle enemies.

I... don't think I have reached any such areas. Damn.

Anyone know what the attached dialogue is talking about?
You can join courts, which might be trigger that dialog if you speak to them again, I guess?
 

AlexDarkside

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anyone knows if you actually can go higher than 9999
(Google translation)

For the player, the maximum level in the game is 9999. For enemies, it's 999999.

For example, here's a level 500000 boss I encountered on the 103rd floor of the dungeon:



And that's not the hardest fight. Sometimes there are very difficult fights with several different level 999999 enemies at the same time. :)
 

Thokeus

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Jan 14, 2025
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Also, given how things scales in the infinite dungeon is there any points to the higher (x8 and x20) difficulties? At that point of the game I actually feel like it makes more sense to go back to normal from hard, unless the taboo difficulties give special bosses or something.
 

lamba

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Btw, anyone knows if you actually can go higher than 9999 or if tutorials mentioning getting higher is a remnant of things cut in the game (I am talking about the rebirth tutorial).
9999 is the hard limit for character levels.

After your first few play-throughs what actually matters is your upgradeable weapons, consumables, personalities that provide perma-buffs, and a few other oddly specific items. It's not on accident that XP becomes a cost for most high level spells.

Incidentally, you want to start thinking about what you're slotting into your upgradeables after the first few play throughs because if your goal is to 100% this game you really do want to min/max your weapons.

I got all the endings but I haven't seen anything obvious about Taboo there.
The first taboo you'll encounter is found in the reliquary area. You should be encountering it on your first play through, unless you completely ignored the demon zones.

You can join courts, which might be trigger that dialog if you speak to them again, I guess?
That's the problem, they just repeat themselves. It's very clear there's something I'm supposed to be doing but it's not clear what that is supposed to be.

Also, given how things scales in the infinite dungeon is there any points to the higher (x8 and x20) difficulties?
Added challenge.
 

Thokeus

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Jan 14, 2025
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9999 is the hard limit for character levels.

After your first few play-throughs what actually matters is your upgradeable weapons, consumables, personalities that provide perma-buffs, and a few other oddly specific items. It's not on accident that XP becomes a cost for most high level spells.
Yeah, I was asking because the rebirth tutorial tells you flat out you get bonuses for doing rebirths at levels 24995 and so on.

Added challenge.
I guess I could have done x20 when I did the dark gathering route yeah.

I found that in both the demon and wriggle routes hard mode (the x4 one) felt very good. Likewise for the true ending. Basically didn't need anything I'd consider grinding but did need me to be really careful about only using ten thousand stones on the good weapons and so on.

Speaking of weapon enhancements, it's kind of funny that a lot of the "high end" weapons ends up flatly worse to the beginner ones because a lot of them just don't give anything at all but a more or less zero sum of stats, while a lot of beginner weapons give something unique.

As far as I know dual wielding Sword Beyond Heaven is the absolute best lol.
 

Darthan302

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Jul 20, 2019
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Yeah, I was asking because the rebirth tutorial tells you flat out you get bonuses for doing rebirths at levels 24995 and so on.
that is referring to your 4 member party's total level, taboo level figures into it as well, but i don't know how
 

wurstdl

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How do I get into this room? I have already visited the starfish bath and got in without problems. Just Clover Alter won't let me in, no matter what I try
 

Darthan302

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Jul 20, 2019
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How do I get into this room? I have already visited the starfish bath and got in without problems. Just Clover Alter won't let me in, no matter what I try
step on one of the heal circles, it will, "pass the day" and allow you to visit one of the hot springs again
 

andreand

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That's the problem, they just repeat themselves. It's very clear there's something I'm supposed to be doing but it's not clear what that is supposed to be.
Dont remember correctly but its or Shunka honey transformation, or Helvetica bee personality(?) tranformation.
 
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