RPGM Completed Gehenna [Full Version] [Kemuriya]

[andreand]

I'd also like to know where else you can find the item she drops. Trails?

Everywhere. Zones with high instability like vampire castle, warp, trails and of course her own house.
I dont remember where-what but it can be find.

 

[Burner5]

Seriously? Wriggles? They literally parasites, Helvetica remove it with power of good health and herbal tea. Lorina even said that Helvetica now has antibody.

Okay.
Ashe Vore remodelling. Helvetica became seedbed, zero narrative impact.

Her entire being was removed from her body. She reversed that with "sleep". It wasn't just "good health", that is an oversimplification (which the game also does for comedic effect).

 

[andreand]

Her entire being was removed from her body. She reversed that with "sleep". It wasn't just "good health", that is an oversimplification (which the game also does for comedic effect).

...Da Fuck? Its not even speculation, its you pure fantasy. Reversed with "sleep"... of course she reversed that with sleep! With sleep, herbal tea and good health! She even have antibody after healing. What else this can means?
Absurd. \(0_0)/

Forgot about on of rules of our game(dont consider that this must be said). We continue giving examples until one of us out of them. Multiple examples can be send.

 

[Burner5]

...Da Fuck? Its not even speculation, its you pure fantasy. Reversed with "sleep"... of course she reversed that with sleep! With sleep, herbal tea and good health! She even have antibody after healing. What else this can means?
Absurd. \(0_0)/

Forgot about on of rules of our game(dont consider that this must be said). We continue giving examples until one of us out of them. Multiple examples can be send.

I don't see you changing your mind at all with this. I am just gonna send more proof for the wiggle route. Just some direct text statijnmg that Hel's soul was removed 100% (something Mai-Mai mentions at the ending).

 

[andreand]

I don't see you changing your mind at all with this. I am just gonna send more proof for the wiggle route. Just some direct text statijnmg that Hel's soul was removed 100% (something Mai-Mai mentions at the ending).

Thank you Helvetica, better than you no one can say.

You have VERY selective "proof base". I very like how you just absolutely ignored her words about herbal tea.
Now you fully prove that you just liar. Not someone who dont understand game, not someone who forgot some thing, not someone who lost in his own speculation, no, you, just, liar.

 

[Burner5]

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Thank you Helvetica, better than you no one can say.

You have VERY selective "proof base". I very like how you just absolutely ignored her words about herbal tea.
Now you fully prove that you just liar. Not someone who dont understand game, not someone who forgot some thing, not someone who lost in his own speculation, no, you, just, liar.

Literally all she said was she doesn't understand how this stuff works when it comes to parasization. Her point is more that she is ok after her body was taken over despite what the wiggles believed possible. The herbal tea and a good sleep was put in there as a joke as she doesn't understand why she went back to normal. Mai-Mai (or Shunka) even say as much during the scene.
I would say it is distasteful of you to assume I was arguing in bad faith but I guess by calling you stubborn I was arguing in bad faith aswell.

 

[lamba]

but not in the way hgames usually understand corruption.

It's corruption in the oldest, most conventional sense of the term.

Literally all she said was she doesn't understand how this stuff works when it comes to parasization. Her point is more that she is ok after her body was taken over despite what the wiggles believed possible. The herbal tea and a good sleep was put in there as a joke as she doesn't understand why she went back to normal. Mai-Mai (or Shunka) even say as much during the scene.

There is no reason to assume things are deeper than a surface read. The reason you don't assume the role of a completely different character after that specific plot arc with the personality excretion is for gameplay convenience. There is exactly one instance where the game actually commits to the hypothetical bad end and then explicitly hits the rewind button and that's with the blue lipstick lady. That and prime bad endings. Every other one is just walked back in a, "so this happened but we're going to pretend it didn't" kind of way.

Wow, people have real discussion about hgame story?

People will argue over just about anything. H-Games that actually invest the time and effort to flesh out the plot and lore aren't common so you do have an anchoring effect because of it. Probably helps that Gehenna is a huge collection of fetishes that don't typically get much attention.

Ashe Vore remodelling. Helvetica became seedbed, zero narrative impact.

Gehenna heavily deals in time travel. You're exploring theoretical bad ends that the game then doesn't commit to because there's nothing further to explore.

So... Do you played EDEN?

I could have sworn Fume posted somewhere that Gehenna is a prequel to Eden.

 

[andreand]

Literally all she said was she doesn't understand how this stuff works when it comes to parasization.

Lie.

The herbal tea and a good sleep was put in there as a joke as she doesn't understand why she went back to normal.

LIE.

I would say it is distasteful of you to assume I was arguing in bad faith but I guess by calling you stubborn I was arguing in bad faith aswell.

You not arguing, you strait up lying.

 

[andreand]

There is exactly one instance where the game actually commits to the hypothetical bad end and then explicitly hits the rewind button and that's with the blue lipstick lady.

Disagree, after Helvetica live room Sheryl transform into madame. Plus event only can be taken after 3 routs, so by narrative its impossible event.

Every other one is just walked back in a, "so this happened but we're going to pretend it didn't" kind of way.

Disagree that they bad ends, but +.

You're exploring theoretical bad ends...

Its not bad end. Its like you say "so this happened but we're going to pretend it didn't".

 

[Burner5]

Lie.

LIE.

You not arguing, you strait up lying.

>Lie
Ok. I now understand that you are too arrogant to have a proper debate. I interperated that scene in a different way from you and argued from that standpoint. You, because you are not willing nor looking to discuss this game, just either ignore people's arguments or accuse them of bad faith points. Thanks for flagging to me and those who may have a diiffering opinion that talking with you is a waste of time.

There is no reason to assume things are deeper than a surface read. The reason you don't assume the role of a completely different character after that specific plot arc with the personality excretion is for gameplay convenience. There is exactly one instance where the game actually commits to the hypothetical bad end and then explicitly hits the rewind button and that's with the blue lipstick lady. That and prime bad endings. Every other one is just walked back in a, "so this happened but we're going to pretend it didn't" kind of way.

Fair enough. I was just arguing the "pretend it didn't" was justified by Hel being able to undo all status effects due to her powers.

 

[andreand]

I interperated that scene in a different way from you and argued from that standpoint.

You are not argued, argument have evidentiary base. What you evidence for "Helverica can reverse everything"? Because on wriggle rout Helvetica heal herself and her companions with herbal tea Helvetica by unknown reason heal herself and everyone else? This is you evidence?

...ignore people's arguments...

Ignore peoples arguments? Its I hear from someone ignore game screenshots, who ignore game characters? For you Helvetica herself not proof.

...accuse them of bad faith points.

There is no them, no them. You and only you, deliberately lie.
Like I said you not misinterpreted, you not forgot, you not dvelve in you own misconceptions, you deliberately lie.

I was just arguing the "pretend it didn't" was justified by Hel being able to undo all status effects due to her powers.

Lol. You literaly dont read what he write. He write "The reason you don't assume the role of a completely different character after that specific plot arc with the personality excretion is for gameplay convenience.", that in less complex language, event dont matter for gameplay convenience. With what on wriggle ending take, I dont agree, its matter for narrative, narrative just ends after event, because its "proper" ending.

 

[starcrossx]

anyone know where the character color changer is?

 

[andreand]

anyone know where the character color changer is?

Teleport in prayer hall, right, down, down, than seek secret room in wall, than seek secret room om floor.

 

[starcrossx]

Teleport in prayer hall, right, down, down, than seek secret room in wall, than seek secret room om floor.

okay i don't see it

 

[andreand]

okay i don't see it

 

[Darthan302]

can anyone tell me how to get past this boulder

how to get past shunka here

and what do i have to do to prove my strength to open this door?

 

[andreand]

How you go so far in game and dont know about it? Anyway.
1. Not removable.
2. Remove Shunka from party(dont worth it).
3. Beat nearby boss(relatable to other doors).

 

[Darthan302]

How you go so far in game and dont know about it? Anyway.
1. Not removable.
2. Remove Shunka from party(dont worth it).
3. Beat nearby boss(relatable to other doors).

1. well having the indication that there is an item behind that is kinda mean then
2. never thought of that
3. thought i had beaten every boss in the area, will have to do more searching
thanks for the help

 

[andreand]

1. well having the indication that there is an item behind that is kinda mean then
2. never thought of that
3. thought i had beaten every boss in the area, will have to do more searching
thanks for the help

This boss literally on screenshot, seat on throne.

 

[Thokeus]

2. Remove Shunka from party(dont worth it).

God I feel so dumb lmao.