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Thank you for your honest and detailed answer. I'm not against sex or else I wouldn't even be here showing interest in these games, but if there's a thing that I despise is rape/abuse/humiliation. If I play as a Succubus\magic girl I wouldn't expect such things to be happening anyways...I don't care if I'll miss most content but at least I'd play the way I enjoy the most, without being treated like dog's shit or worse. So any career as athlete\model\musician and so on hasn't been foreseen... girl has just to whore around and be the pet of those dogs...fair enough, then the whole game goes into the bin. It's sad because except those unavoidable rape events/scenes, game was really good with "apparently" many things\choices to design your own path...apparently. All right, thanks again for the answer. Cheers!
As I mentioned in my above post the big issue is the magic aspects of the game until recentlly where honestly not well done and very tacked on. The recent magic revamped helped that a lot, but it still means someone has to now go through and add options magic versions to a lot of scenes which takes a TON of time. Plus many of the writers still don't understand the magic system so they don't know how to add magic options when new content is written. This is one of the big downside to a game made by people for free in their spare time. They write what they know and what they personally enjoy, because the game is a labor of love. Which means some stuff like magic will lag behind unless we get someone on staff that is really interested in going back over old content and making magic versions of said scenes. Hopefully we get someone like that sometime soon.
 

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Partially correct, the answer is a bit deeper than that. The original game was made with the MC being a victim and becoming a slut if you wanted any content at all. We have mostly changed that and while there is still some content that is that way, most of it no longer requires that. You can certainly play the game and never be abused, raped etc and still have access to the majority of content of in the game. With that said sometimes bad things just happen, Sveta might get bullied, or gropped etc which happens in RL. But as long as you don't do anything risky like getting passed out drunk, going out really late at night etc, odds are you can avoid all the content where your character is a victim.

What is true is the game is mostly written and coded where the MC aka Sveta is a normal teenager girl. Most normal teenage girls are not that strong or skilled in combat etc. Most of them can be overpowered by teenager boys not to mention adult men being even larger and stronger.

In addition the magic aspects of the game for a long time where tacked on and was more like a seperate game and didn't fit well. That has recently started to change with the complete revamp of the magic system awhile back. But it takes a long time to add in magic variations to existing content and most of the writers still don't understand how the magic system even works so don't know how to even add said options. In time that will change but it will take a long time.

So in short with all the above said. The core game and most of the content is written where the MC is going to be a average every day teen girl and deal with average every day teen girl stuff, in a porn parody way.
Fair enough . Thank you for clearing everything up. To be honest I nave yet to complete a whole playthrough, I just tot discouraged by the aforementioned aspects, and to be frano I don't mind to be groped by perverts or assaulted by rapists if I can fight back \ stand my ground \ feed on them using my succubus power... I don't mind enjoying sex in group or solo, but I want to be the one calling the shots. Everytime I see any hint of humiliation\ human degradation\ slavery \ rape...that's when I put a stop and load a previous save. A giro can enjoy sex with a partner or even multiple at once without being treated like an object\ pet ... Especially if that girl has a hidden fearsome inner power. But it's ok, for the moment I'll be keeping on playing the game just the way I was doing, trying to stay safe and avoiding any sexual partner who is a psycho/sociopath and a misogyn, in the hope of some writer doing justice to the succubus or women in general ...my MC will never be anyone's pet\slave\whore. That's for sure
 

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Fair enough . Thank you for clearing everything up. To be honest I nave yet to complete a whole playthrough, I just tot discouraged by the aforementioned aspects, and to be frano I don't mind to be groped by perverts or assaulted by rapists if I can fight back \ stand my ground \ feed on them using my succubus power... I don't mind enjoying sex in group or solo, but I want to be the one calling the shots. Everytime I see any hint of humiliation\ human degradation\ slavery \ rape...that's when I put a stop and load a previous save. A giro can enjoy sex with a partner or even multiple at once without being treated like an object\ pet ... Especially if that girl has a hidden fearsome inner power. But it's ok, for the moment I'll be keeping on playing the game just the way I was doing, trying to stay safe and avoiding any sexual partner who is a psycho/sociopath and a misogyn, in the hope of some writer doing justice to the succubus or women in general ...my MC will never be anyone's pet\slave\whore. That's for sure
If you are looking for NPC's that treat the MC fairly well. I would recommend the following NPC's story arcs.
Julia
Anushka
Artem
Fedor
Igor
Natasha(though you are the dom one there)
Olu
Djibril (though his friends can treat MC as just a warm hole to fuck, but they are not forceful about it)
Katja
Vicky
Sonia (though at the moment it is just taking part in her fall from grace and you can speed it up, not do anything or slow it down, but your choices will matter when we get time to expand her story)

There is likely some more in the city but I am less familiar with those NPC's so don't know for positive which ones do or do not have the kind of content you might like.

The list above some of the content in their stories might be a bit dark, all of it is avoidable if you choose. Like for example in Anushka story arc you can get involved in a 3some with her and radomir and he can be somewhat abusive to Sveta but you can choose not to have sex with them or stop the sex when it starts to get to rough and leave. But all the ones listed should fit what you are looking for where you can avoid the stuff you listed if you choose and many of them don't even have such content anyways.
 
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If you are looking for NPC's that treat the MC fairly well. I would recommend the following NPC's story arcs.
Julia
Anushka
Artem
Fedor
Igor
Natasha(though you are the dom one there)
Olu
Djibril (though his friends can treat MC as just a warm hole to fuck, but they are not forceful about it)
Katja
Vicky
Sonia (though at the moment it is just taking part in her fall from grace and you can speed it up, not do anything or slow it down, but your choices will matter when we get time to expand her story)

There is likely some more in the city but I am less familiar with those NPC's so don't know for positive which ones do or do not have the kind of content you might like.

The list above some of the content in their stories might be a bit dark, all of it is avoidable if you choose. Like for example in Anushka story arc you can get involved in a 3some with her and radomir and he can be somewhat abusive to Sveta but you can choose not to have sex with them or stop the sex when it starts to get to rough and leave. But all the ones listed should fit what you are looking for where you can avoid the stuff you listed if you choose and many of them don't even have such content anyways.
Thanks.

I'll try to follow your suggestions. In the city you can meet a family that employs you as a maid, the stepdaughter is a really nice girl and treats you well. I don't know about the stepfather though, cause I haven't fully played that story part yet...and with Nush I've joined in 2 3somes : Val and Marcus. Ad I said I don't mind being naughty , but only with the right ppl. Radomir, Dan, my goblin of childhood friend and the other misogyn, sociopaths can stick it in their asses. I remember Nush saying to you (MC) that she doesn't get along with Radomir and that it's her mother obsessed with that guy (one of the reasons she doesn't like that guy much)...so that's kind of unexpected even though kowing Nush and her being free-spirited it's not totally out of character... By the way my MC is not just a succubus, but one hell of a fighter (maxed out all those skills), so I hope some scendes will be rewritten and I'll be able to kick some asses. :)
 

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Thanks.

I'll try to follow your suggestions. In the city you can meet a family that employs you as a maid, the stepdaughter is a really nice girl and treats you well. I don't know about the stepfather though, cause I haven't fully played that story part yet...and with Nush I've joined in 2 3somes : Val and Marcus. Ad I said I don't mind being naughty , but only with the right ppl. Radomir, Dan, my goblin of childhood friend and the other misogyn, sociopaths can stick it in their asses. I remember Nush saying to you (MC) that she doesn't get along with Radomir and that it's her mother obsessed with that guy (one of the reasons she doesn't like that guy much)...so that's kind of unexpected even though kowing Nush and her being free-spirited it's not totally out of character... By the way my MC is not just a succubus, but one hell of a fighter (maxed out all those skills), so I hope some scendes will be rewritten and I'll be able to kick some asses. :)
Nush and Rad have a much deeper history and it isn't she doesn't like him, it is more of a love hate relationship between them. there is a fair amount of background to their story and it will play a role in the upcoming band story. I don't want to spoil things, but will just tease that their story, has a lot more going on that what it appears on the surface. You can learn more from Nush or Val now and more will be revealed in the band story. the garage practice should be ready soonish for a dev build.

Right now stats are easier to gain than they will be because there is not enough content for several years, soon, as in maybe the next release after that things will be slowed down, when we start the uni. Where it will take longer to max stats and skills, keep in mind a 100 stat or skill means Sveta is in the top 1% of women in that regard. Personally I have wanted it to be slower than it is already but most devs felt we should allow players to hit 100 inside of a year as that is all the content we have, but once we have more years then change it.
 
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Nush and Rad have a much deeper history and it isn't she doesn't like him, it is more of a love hate relationship between them. there is a fair amount of background to their story and it will play a role in the upcoming band story. I don't want to spoil things, but will just tease that their story, has a lot more going on that what it appears on the surface. You can learn more from Nush or Val now and more will be revealed in the band story. the garage practice should be ready soonish for a dev build.

Right now stats are easier to gain than they will be because there is not enough content for several years, soon, as in maybe the next release after that things will be slowed down, when we start the uni. Where it will take longer to max stats and skills, keep in mind a 100 stat or skill means Sveta is in the top 1% of women in that regard. Personally I have wanted it to be slower than it is already but most devs felt we should allow players to hit 100 inside of a year as that is all the content we have, but once we have more years then change it.
Yeah I admit I changed the settings from a realistic game experience to easy peasy. Cause I hated the way sue was treated at school, I mean you just got groped by a pervert what should you do? you can't even afford to slap the guy without being punched in the face?!? Wtf! I hate these kind of shit, it makes me sick! Then I just remembered about a pervert doc in the city clinic. Motherfucker has been filming you and all of his patients and you can't simply do shit about it cause it will lead to game over... I was forced to load a very early save and totally avoid that clinic. This stuff just really gets to me, it's not much if you play carefully but I hope there'll be a kind soul that adds more options to chance things and do justice to the girl. This is catering to misogynistic, sadistic shit who enjoys seeing their girls (MC) being treated like shit and fall into darkness... Well, I hope writers can think of the other half of players from now on, girls in particular. edit: Add to the list prof. Ivanov, poor guy used to be bullied when he went to school, and now he does the same to his students, the girls at least. He tries to peek under tour skirt and you got to stay quiet or else you'll be brought to the principal. I chose not to give in and got spanked by the principal. detenction was also an option but I fear it's something even uglier and I'm not interested to find out...
 
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Won't know what all is finished until closer to the time. A disco revamp will be done, meeting some of the Uni students while not going to the Uni yourself revamp is also mostly done so will make it in. Hopefully the start of the band story should be in, but that mostly depends on if it gets coded in time.
I'm almost sure that again 80% of coding is making clothes working or adding some more clothes again. Poor Kevin :(
 
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Yeah I admit I changed the settings from a realistic game experience to easy peasy. Cause I hated the way sue was treated at school, I mean you just got groped by a pervert what should you do? you can't even afford to slap the guy without being punched in the face?!? Wtf! I hate these kind of shit, it makes me sick! Then I just remembered about a pervert doc in the city clinic. Motherfucker has been filming you and all of his patients and you can't simply do shit about it cause it will lead to game over... I was forced to load a very early save and totally avoid that clinic. This stuff just really gets to me, it's not much if you play carefully but I hope there'll be a kind soul that adds more options to chance things and do justice to the girl. This is catering to misogynistic, sadistic shit who enjoys seeing their girls (MC) being treated like shit and fall into darkness... Well, I hope writers can think of the other half of players from now on, girls in particular. edit: Add to the list prof. Ivanov, poor guy used to be bullied when he went to school, and now he does the same to his students, the girls at least. He tries to peek under tour skirt and you got to stay quiet or else you'll be brought to the principal. I chose not to give in and got spanked by the principal. detenction was also an option but I fear it's something even uglier and I'm not interested to find out...
Is this a vent piece or your attempt at suggestions? Some of the darkest themes (e.g., force impregnation, bestiality and non-consensual sex) are already removed from the main game or have the option to opt them out via cheat menu. Some of the most memorable and sinfully delicious dark storyline (i.e, Niko) is written by a female developer so please don't jump to the gender divide simply because it offends your personal sensibility. It's highly unlikely that similar story elements will be created again but don't expect the team to spend time to revamp the existing story and make it politically correct, especially for a porn game that happens to have a fun life-sim element to it.

This is trying time for all of us, some of members on the team are currently recovering from that thrice accursed illness and more. Some with additional financial strain (moi included). Feedback and constructive criticisms are helpful and appreciated. Self-righteous rants are not.

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Gwen
 

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Yeah I admit I changed the settings from a realistic game experience to easy peasy. Cause I hated the way sue was treated at school, I mean you just got groped by a pervert what should you do? you can't even afford to slap the guy without being punched in the face?!? Wtf! I hate these kind of shit, it makes me sick! Then I just remembered about a pervert doc in the city clinic. Motherfucker has been filming you and all of his patients and you can't simply do shit about it cause it will lead to game over... I was forced to load a very early save and totally avoid that clinic. This stuff just really gets to me, it's not much if you play carefully but I hope there'll be a kind soul that adds more options to chance things and do justice to the girl. This is catering to misogynistic, sadistic shit who enjoys seeing their girls (MC) being treated like shit and fall into darkness... Well, I hope writers can think of the other half of players from now on, girls in particular. edit: Add to the list prof. Ivanov, poor guy used to be bullied when he went to school, and now he does the same to his students, the girls at least. He tries to peek under tour skirt and you got to stay quiet or else you'll be brought to the principal. I chose not to give in and got spanked by the principal. detenction was also an option but I fear it's something even uglier and I'm not interested to find out...
But again if a boy gropes a girl in RL, the girl might slap him but she risks the guy hitting back and harder. Like I said the game is made where the MC is assumed to be a normal average teen girl. I get that isn't the kind of game you want, only saying that is how it is written. If you play different starts you will notice Ivanov doesn't take advantage of nerds, it hints at it where it mentions nerds have a easier time in his class boys and girls. Because he was a nerd he is nice to them, the rest not so much.

As for the think of the girls, as shrimpy aka Gwen pointed out a girl wrote one of the darkest stories in the game and i would say about 25% of the devs are girls, another of them is working on another of the darker stories which is the Christina bully story arc.

But the game by design has a range of content, including dark stuff, because sometimes bad things just happen. But most of it is avoidable if you are careful. There is plenty of stuff that is I feel more to your liking, the list of NPC's I posted above should fit more what you would like.
 
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I'm almost sure that again 80% of coding is making clothes working or adding some more clothes again. Poor Kevin :(
The clothes should now be working after the revamp if you find issues let us know. Yeah more will be added but I don't think any is planned at the moment. I think the next big thing will be maybe jewelry or something along those lines.
 

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This. In my case is the movies. I have Core Image Pack 0.8.3 and run QSP 5.7 (downloaded latest to start new game).
Ok if it is only the movies you are having issues with, then try one of the recommend players on the first page under the video spoiler. Not all qsp players will play movies.
 

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Is this a vent piece or your attempt at suggestions? Some of the darkest themes (e.g., force impregnation, bestiality and non-consensual sex) are already removed from the main game or have the option to opt them out via cheat menu. Some of the most memorable and sinfully delicious dark storyline (i.e, Niko) is written by a female developer so please don't jump to the gender divide simply because it offends your personal sensibility. It's highly unlikely that similar story elements will be created again but don't expect the team to spend time to revamp the existing story and make it politically correct, especially for a porn game that happens to have a fun life-sim element to it.

This is trying time for all of us, some of members on the team are currently recovering from that thrice accursed illness and more. Some with additional financial strain (moi included). Feedback and constructive criticisms are helpful and appreciated. Self-righteous rants are not.

Best,

Gwen
Well non-con sex is still in the game but now there is ways to avoid it or attempt to fight your way free, but it can still happen.

As for me it was a serious infection that landed me in the hospital.
 

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The clothes should now be working after the revamp if you find issues let us know. Yeah more will be added but I don't think any is planned at the moment. I think the next big thing will be maybe jewelry or something along those lines.
That reminds me I have to increase one of the clothing store quantities for Gwen.
 

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Yeah I admit I changed the settings from a realistic game experience to easy peasy. Cause I hated the way sue was treated at school, I mean you just got groped by a pervert what should you do? you can't even afford to slap the guy without being punched in the face?!? Wtf! I hate these kind of shit, it makes me sick! Then I just remembered about a pervert doc in the city clinic. Motherfucker has been filming you and all of his patients and you can't simply do shit about it cause it will lead to game over... I was forced to load a very early save and totally avoid that clinic. This stuff just really gets to me, it's not much if you play carefully but I hope there'll be a kind soul that adds more options to chance things and do justice to the girl. This is catering to misogynistic, sadistic shit who enjoys seeing their girls (MC) being treated like shit and fall into darkness... Well, I hope writers can think of the other half of players from now on, girls in particular. edit: Add to the list prof. Ivanov, poor guy used to be bullied when he went to school, and now he does the same to his students, the girls at least. He tries to peek under tour skirt and you got to stay quiet or else you'll be brought to the principal. I chose not to give in and got spanked by the principal. detenction was also an option but I fear it's something even uglier and I'm not interested to find out...
I wasn't sure which to reply to. You've got 3 different reactions from people who work on or have worked on the game so I'm not going to judge or make emotive arguments, All I do want to add is a little history of the game so you can see where we came from and where we're heading.

The original game was simply a mod for another popular Russian game and was all based in the city. This was then modded extensively adding new content in the city and creating the Pav enviroment. The latter stuff was unplayable and bugged to ruin from various modders adding bits on top of bits on top of more bits, so we started there to make it playable and slowly added our own elements. The biggest input content wise was the school revamp where nutluck and a couple of others completely rewrote the whole schol experience. More emphasis was put on player choice (or at least illusion of choice) and less on RNG rape.

We've continued redoing stuff, someone spent a long time redoing the live in maid story which you should avoid (Tanya is lovely but both her parents will be dominant to the maid). This is in the same theme as it originally was, same for the Mistress you can meet in Mon Cheri (although resisting leads to turning the tables and gettting an unrealistically submissive slave instead).

With a lot of the remaining content all we have done is translate and fix code.

So that's the boring past bit, going forwards we do want more player choices. The need to sometimes do things you don't want to if you don't have enough willpower, ways to use magic and powers to control situations. Real dominant storylines and relationships. Magic events that together form an adventure with interesting characters and a whole hidden world to discover (we honestly have mapped out so much of this we should be in the nerd game night). We also want Svveta to be able to pursue a criminal lifestyle and many more things that would suit your gameplay.
However, all these things take time and require content creators who want and can make this type of content. So far the one thing progressing is the magic storyline with a crazy new addition mostly written.
 

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Is this a vent piece or your attempt at suggestions? Some of the darkest themes (e.g., force impregnation, bestiality and non-consensual sex) are already removed from the main game or have the option to opt them out via cheat menu. Some of the most memorable and sinfully delicious dark storyline (i.e, Niko) is written by a female developer so please don't jump to the gender divide simply because it offends your personal sensibility. It's highly unlikely that similar story elements will be created again but don't expect the team to spend time to revamp the existing story and make it politically correct, especially for a porn game that happens to have a fun life-sim element to it.

This is trying time for all of us, some of members on the team are currently recovering from that thrice accursed illness and more. Some with additional financial strain (moi included). Feedback and constructive criticisms are helpful and appreciated. Self-righteous rants are not.

Best,



Gwen
As I stated before, I'm playing as a Succubus and spellcaster and what I'm pointing out is that some events don't make any sense with this playstyle. Take the "doctor one"x example; which is just one of many. But as your collegue already explained, the game was already being taken in a particular direction by the original developer , while the magical aspect is only a recent introduction and some of the old content hasn't been uptaded\rewritten taking into account this new element. As I said, I'm already being cautious in my playthrough since I realized it didn't matter how powerful or strong I was, bad things were still happening to me, but there are still many of "these" events which are hidden and difficult to anticipate\foresee. I'm not bringing up politically correct nonsense about a game on a pirate site, but if I don't like a certain type of content, I'd like to have an option to leave before things get uglier or simply a warning, since I've been specifically avoiding that content, yet there are times when shit happens without your consent and against every prediction, and you can't do nothing about it , just accept it... Even if you are a magical being which posseses superhuman strength and invulnerability to basic attacks (I'm not making anything up, it's how you're depicted as a Succubus & spellcaster ) . Since you brought it up, let's take Niko as an example: I had yet to play his story arc , so I wasn't aware of this...guy seemed nice enough and polite too, even if a bit strange and mysterious, so I won't deny that part of me was tempted to try his story arc... Guess I've got another name to add to the ignored list then...a far too long list because aside from a few exceptions (ppl mentioned by Nutluck, and not everyone of them either) you're just another girl to be humiliated, blackmailed, raped, abused and so on...
 

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I wasn't sure which to reply to. You've got 3 different reactions from people who work on or have worked on the game so I'm not going to judge or make emotive arguments, All I do want to add is a little history of the game so you can see where we came from and where we're heading.

The original game was simply a mod for another popular Russian game and was all based in the city. This was then modded extensively adding new content in the city and creating the Pav enviroment. The latter stuff was unplayable and bugged to ruin from various modders adding bits on top of bits on top of more bits, so we started there to make it playable and slowly added our own elements. The biggest input content wise was the school revamp where nutluck and a couple of others completely rewrote the whole schol experience. More emphasis was put on player choice (or at least illusion of choice) and less on RNG rape.

We've continued redoing stuff, someone spent a long time redoing the live in maid story which you should avoid (Tanya is lovely but both her parents will be dominant to the maid). This is in the same theme as it originally was, same for the Mistress you can meet in Mon Cheri (although resisting leads to turning the tables and gettting an unrealistically submissive slave instead).

With a lot of the remaining content all we have done is translate and fix code.

So that's the boring past bit, going forwards we do want more player choices. The need to sometimes do things you don't want to if you don't have enough willpower, ways to use magic and powers to control situations. Real dominant storylines and relationships. Magic events that together form an adventure with interesting characters and a whole hidden world to discover (we honestly have mapped out so much of this we should be in the nerd game night). We also want Svveta to be able to pursue a criminal lifestyle and many more things that would suit your gameplay.
However, all these things take time and require content creators who want and can make this type of content. So far the one thing progressing is the magic storyline with a crazy new addition mostly written.
thanks for the warning :) can I still pursue a relationship with the girl even if I were to refuse her offer to work for her family? And that's precisely what I've been trying to explain and point out. There are far too many story events that are not predictable or easy to figure out in advance, so it's easy to run into things you want to avoid, and make you sick. I hope that Gwen, who accused me of unconstructive criticism, can understand my reasons too now.
 

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thanks for the warning :) can I still pursue a relationship with the girl even if I were to refuse her offer to work for her family? And that's precisely what I've been trying to explain and point out. There are far too many story events that are not predictable or easy to figure out in advance, so it's easy to run into things you want to avoid, and make you sick. I hope that Gwen, who accused me of unconstructive criticism, can understand my reasons too now.
As far as I know all of the stories should have a way to get out of them once you figure out what they are leading to before you get to far in. Now that doesn't mean they do, just all of them I am aware of do. The maid one I don't know about, Niko I know has a way out early on once things start to turn dark if you take it and another once you get pretty deep into the story.
 
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As far as I know all of the stories should have a way to get out of them once you figure out what they are leading to before you get to far in. Now that doesn't mean they do, just all of them I am aware of do. The maid one I don't know about, Niko I know has a way out early on once things start to turn dark if you take it and another once you get pretty deep into the story.
Thanks, that reassures me, even though now that I know what awaits me, I'll simply make sure to not get involved with the particular guy\ girl... Can I try to free nice charming Lariska from controlling tyrannical Christina without having to look over my shoulder? I don't like the way I have to play it, but I don't like how Lariska and Lina are being treated by Christina either, and Lariska is too cute to miss out on. Will things go smoothly or sour ? Just to make sure, cause I nave to play the blackmail card in the process, an option which I don't like but Lariska intrigues me much :)
 
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