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Max should never have been moved into Kate's classroom. Wasn't the original idea to have him placed in classroom 2 or something and have only limited interactions with those in classroom 1? I'd have been fine with that.
Completely agree with you. Putting Max/Lisa/Olivia in the same class as Alice and Kate is bad. This is doubly a bad idea, because. Arch, Alice is the main one in the house, is not closed. If I were DS, I would release a couple of game updates, a continuation of the New World Order quest, and then send Max to College.
 
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Since when?
That is not what the game said or suggested. Where do I see this info?
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While by default it is not, everyone knows how it's supposed to be, hence, the npc mapping option :)
Go start a new game as Kate, and actually read...
As for "since when", since "always". Before Max and a BB remake weaselled its way into this game.
 
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I just adjusted that portion. Does it mean I have to restart to get the changes? Or does the game adjust on the fly?
 

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Go start a new game as Kate, and actually read...
As for "since when", since "always". Before Max and a BB remake weaselled its way into this game.
When the game first released, she was her sister. Not long afterwards the incest aspect was a proplem on
Since when?
When the game first released, she was her sister. While Max had a family. Not long afterwards the incest aspect was a problem on patreon, so was Kate changed to best friend and Max was changed to landlady and renters or whatever. There's a patch that switches it back.
 

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It won't, because of the $40 patrons crying and bawling so much that this slowly transformed into BB.
I feel that Silver's creativity will forever be dictated by the $40/month crowd. I personally haven't touched this game since around 0.38. If he were to start another game, he'd likely make the same mistake again.
I have no idea as to his living expenses but it's the one of the dumbest things he's ever done.

People like Max? No, they don't. They like Ann, Kira, Alice and Lisa. Max is a dickweed.
People like Kate? Probably. I did. But I also liked Julia and Sophie.

What I didn't like about the game (back when it was updated on a 1:1 basis) was the generic standing pose he used for every girl. A little bit of work is all that would have been required to give them all even slight variations.

Max should never have been moved into Kate's classroom. Wasn't the original idea to have him placed in classroom 2 or something and have only limited interactions with those in classroom 1? I'd have been fine with that.

Making a game is difficult, true. But taking the easy way out and letting the people throwing money at you tell you how to make the game? Giving the players the power removes all sense of surprises. It's like using a debug cheat in a 90's video game just because the stage/boss is kicking your caboose.

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Surprisingly there are people who like max. I can't see why, as well as I can't see who is paying 480$/yr to vote what cg jerk would do next with his cg family. Insane. If these people were allowed to vote on creation of GoT series it would be all about Daenerys being fucked by her brother

Completely agree with you. Putting Max/Lisa/Olivia in the same class as Alice and Kate is bad. This is doubly a bad idea, because. Arch, Alice is the main one in the house, is not closed. If I were DS, I would release a couple of game updates, a continuation of the New World Order quest, and then send Max to College.
Max should never, ever being moved to Kate's class. Max should move out of villa. go to college but with his own new charachters, teachers and college plot. No bsdm club (unless he serves as bitch), college rules... no leeching from Kate story in general. But for that you have to be creative artist, with imagination and integrity. Not a leech as DS is. It is easier this way. No effort at all.
 
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Would you advise me to drop this game quickly? Can anyone please confirm if Kate's story, specifically, Kate herself, gets fucked up? I am actually scared of my prediction becoming true. I know she is not really assertive but is developing to be more so if done right. Does she just become some cheap slut?
 

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Surprisingly there are people who like max. I can't see why, as well as I can't see who is paying 480$/yr to vote what cg jerk would do next with his cg family. Insane. If these people were allowed to vote on creation of GoT series it would be all about Daenerys being fucked by her brother


Max should never, ever being moved to Kate's class. Max should move out of villa. go to college but with his own new charachters, teachers and college plot. No bsdm club (unless he serves as bitch), college rules... no leeching from Kate story in general. But for that you have to be creative artist, with imagination and integrity. Not a leech as DS is. It is easier this way. No effort at all.
"surprisingly"?

The big brother games (or their clones/mods) have been some of the most popular games on adult circles games for a rather long time.
The characters are nice looking, and it's incest, which is one of the most demanded kink in games and porn... What is so surprising about it?

Just as an example; class the games on F95 by weighted rating, or most liked, and see how far you've got to go to find a female protagonist game... Maybe the facts are bothering some, but, the majority of AVN players, are straight men. While some of them might be entertained by the occasional female on female thing, the market share of it, is small.

If you dig deeper, you'll see that the most popular Female protagonist games, are the ones where you turn an innocent one, into a cum dumpster.

At the end of the day, the dev is doing it for money. If he gets more money doing what he's currently doing, then band together and donate to take over. Good luck in doing so though.
 
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So Kate is just that?
Well, Kate is a bit all over the place, but yeah, she's become a cum dumpster for a few males already.

A large chunk of male players, don't actually enjoy playing her, since there's still a lot of lesbian content, then some male content, then some cumdump/slave content, and the story doesn't actually seem to be going anywhere either.

IF it was backed by a strong attractive story, it might draw some people in, but the story simply doesn't make up for the uninteresting female character. Just like "light of my life" which has absolutely ugly characters, but the story more than makes up for it.

Now, the game also has Max side, which is so far, nothing more than a souped down Big Brother remake. There's no story there either to speak of.

At this point, the dev should probably drop one of them, and focus on making the other better. Just my opinion though.

Money wise, Max story would get more than Kate any day, it's already the case.
 
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If you dig deeper, you'll see that the most popular Female protagonist games, are the ones where you turn an innocent one, into a cum dumpster.
so girls fucking around for their pleasure are cum dumpster whores and males doing same are real heroes. well get yourself in 21st century,
but one thing you are right it is not worth debating with you
 

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When the game first released, she was her sister. Not long afterwards the incest aspect was a proplem on

When the game first released, she was her sister. While Max had a family. Not long afterwards the incest aspect was a problem on patreon, so was Kate changed to best friend and Max was changed to landlady and renters or whatever. There's a patch that switches it back.
I know all that. I know that DS has never changed the intro to change Kate & Julia to not being sisters.
I also know that DS "didn't like incest" when making BB, but went ahead with it in this game any way.

I just adjusted that portion. Does it mean I have to restart to get the changes? Or does the game adjust on the fly?
No, regardless of what you've put into the NPC Mapping relations, they're still sisters in the intro.
 
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