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PhazeUFO said:
The issue with the community isn't exclusive to this site. That's anonymous individuals in general who like to trash talk and shame. Some of it is to bully as you said, "Stop liking what I don't like!" is very real. Others actually don't like a direction a game has taken, or would rather it be taken elsewhere. I get the second part and will usually just leave a game if it isn't for me as I don't see why others can't enjoy what they like I and I what I like.

I believe the biggest kinks on this site would be incest, ntr, and probably futa/traps. In general I would say those as well, but would probably be four at least. Now, this gives the advantage of having people want to stick with you because it's a popular kink, and not all forms of futa are well expanded upon, but it will also give you harsher critics and expectations for the same reason. People really want something and therefore really want it to do well, mainly for themselves.

The biggest thing you have to remember is that unless you are getting paid, say a commission, you need to be doing this for you, so you need to focus on what you want from the game as it is your vision. I liked what I saw in the prologue and from what I have seen of some of your art, so I am curious. If you are being paid specifically for your work, then you only have to do what is asked, so people won't complain as much because they are getting exactly what they wanted. Also, I said this in another thread, but I think it can apply everywhere. The one thing people need when putting something out where others can see is simple humbleness. It is impossible to please everyone and is a painful waste of time to even attempt to do so. Yes, look at constructive criticism, but you must always know how to ignore and not care. I have been BTFO as well as complimented on my writing, so I know how it can hurt when you are told that you may as well just nuke your work and start over. All you can do is listen to what they say and try to improve since without those same haters you will only stagnate.
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Just to clarify, with the exception of incest, none of the other 3 even come close. not counting things like 2dcg, vaginal sex, or adventure (i.e. tags that get attached incidentally and arent really part of the kinks, maybe someones kink is missionary, but honestly, i mean the kind of thing that just gets attached to a large number of game just because), loli is attached to about 400 games. prostitution has more. beastiality is only lower than loli by 15 or 20. and thats not counting the whales (which ill get to). many, many, many more kinks have way more than that, as well as ntr, which only sits around 750 ish. and we all know how many games get tagged ntr because of only a single scene, or a bit of avoidable ntr with a single side character or something.... futa is around 900 almost, if you include trap (174) and futa protag (244) you still dont even hit incest (1641), and thats with all 3 combined... some people like traps and not futa. some like futa and not traps. i would say most dont like either in comparison. but thats just a guess on my part. then getting to incest, which is probably one of the more popular tags (i dont get it, but saying my opinion on the matter gets your post deleted, so ill leave it there), still lags WAY behind things like romance (over 2000), rape (over 2500), or lesbian (over 2100). pregnancy breaks 1000, as does femdom, virgin breaks 1200, voyeurism 1700, corruption hits almost 1800, monster and monster girl both get over 1600, milf gets about 1800, and if you want to include it as a specific kink (since a lot of people are against it) group sex gets over 2300. possibly incidental. hell, even harem beats any of the ones you mentioned except incest at almost 1000. another one that is kinda questionable since it probably gets a lot more incidental numbers than solely dedicated titles (although there are many, and the mosquito bite squad shows up to cry about them in every thread) is big tits, at well over 5000. (i know its one of my fetishes, i see no big tits tag, it better look stupidly interesting or im out.)

if you dont want a bunch of numbers to read, skip to this point and realize that simply stating your favourites or the ones that come up most often by a very vocal minority advocating for more of in EVERY. SINGLE. THREAD. doesnt mean that they are actually the most popular.

seriously though, even urination has more than loli. which shouldnt exist to begin with.
 
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Joeburqa said:
Just to clarify, with the exception of incest, none of the other 3 even come close. not counting things like 2dcg, vaginal sex, or adventure (i.e. tags that get attached incidentally and arent really part of the kinks, maybe someones kink is missionary, but honestly, i mean the kind of thing that just gets attached to a large number of game just because), loli is attached to about 400 games. prostitution has more. beastiality is only lower than loli by 15 or 20. and thats not counting the whales (which ill get to). many, many, many more kinks have way more than that, as well as ntr, which only sits around 750 ish. and we all know how many games get tagged ntr because of only a single scene, or a bit of avoidable ntr with a single side character or something.... futa is around 900 almost, if you include trap (174) and futa protag (244) you still dont even hit incest (1641), and thats with all 3 combined... some people like traps and not futa. some like futa and not traps. i would say most dont like either in comparison. but thats just a guess on my part. then getting to incest, which is probably one of the more popular tags (i dont get it, but saying my opinion on the matter gets your post deleted, so ill leave it there), still lags WAY behind things like romance (over 2000), rape (over 2500), or lesbian (over 2100). pregnancy breaks 1000, as does femdom, virgin breaks 1200, voyeurism 1700, corruption hits almost 1800, monster and monster girl both get over 1600, milf gets about 1800, and if you want to include it as a specific kink (since a lot of people are against it) group sex gets over 2300. possibly incidental. hell, even harem beats any of the ones you mentioned except incest at almost 1000. another one that is kinda questionable since it probably gets a lot more incidental numbers than solely dedicated titles (although there are many, and the mosquito bite squad shows up to cry about them in every thread) is big tits, at well over 5000. (i know its one of my fetishes, i see no big tits tag, it better look stupidly interesting or im out.)

if you dont want a bunch of numbers to read, skip to this point and realize that simply stating your favourites or the ones that come up most often by a very vocal minority advocating for more of in EVERY. SINGLE. THREAD. doesnt mean that they are actually the most popular.

seriously though, even urination has more than loli. which shouldnt exist to begin with.
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Your final post is exactly why it doesn't have many tags. You kink shame and try to ban what it is you don't like, so there isn't much loli allowed. Patreon banned it and incest, so games either don't have them or have to sneak them in. This site bans some forms of it, quite a lot actually, so it doesn't have many tags. Having listened to what was said over the years and how much was there before people started purging, I can say that yes, loli is a large kink and can contend with the others. It's in dark now, but the desire has and will continue to increase as it becomes harder to come by.

As for futa, that is a rising tag that has managed to inch itself in just about every corner at this point. Devs may not include it, but somewhere there will be someone that asks for it, and it will keep growing as the desire for transitioning in real life grows. Now, ntr is second I would say as that one encroaches more than the others. In fact, if incest wasn't desired as much, I would say ntr is. I could actually claim that it will overtake incest in some years due to the rise in real cuckoldry.

My point of the post was that although futa is huge and only getting bigger, thick futa isn't so large. Thick women, while a desire for some, isn't as big as futa, so the combination hasn't taken off yet. This is not me "stating my favorites" but actually analyzing and comparing porn wit real life. Since porn is a fantasy, it is a reflection of what we want in life and vice versa. Kink shame all you want, but if these sites were to lift their bans, you would see a fast rise in loli. If you were to see them follow patreon and ban rape or incest, you would see a decrease in the amount of tags they have, although I will admit that incest is much easier to hide.
 
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tried selling mushrooms to the alchemist lady and got this


I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Locations.rpy", line 167, in script call
call screen alch_talk
File "game/Locations.rpy", line 167, in script call
call screen alch_talk
File "game/talk boxes.rpy", line 76, in script call
call screen lana_talk
File "game/talk boxes.rpy", line 76, in script call
call screen lana_talk
File "game/talk boxes.rpy", line 76, in script call
call screen lana_talk
File "game/Necromancy.rpy", line 59, in script call
call screen Sara_talk
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Locations.rpy", line 167, in script call
call screen alch_talk
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Locations.rpy", line 167, in script call
call screen alch_talk
File "game/Locations.rpy", line 167, in script
call screen alch_talk
ScriptError: could not find label 'Sell_1_mushroom'.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "renpy/bootstrap.py", line 326, in bootstrap
renpy.main.main()
File "renpy/main.py", line 617, in main
run(restart)
File "renpy/main.py", line 148, in run
renpy.execution.run_context(True)
File "renpy/execution.py", line 922, in run_context
context.run()
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Locations.rpy", line 167, in script call
call screen alch_talk
File "game/Locations.rpy", line 167, in script call
call screen alch_talk
File "game/talk boxes.rpy", line 76, in script call
call screen lana_talk
File "game/talk boxes.rpy", line 76, in script call
call screen lana_talk
File "game/talk boxes.rpy", line 76, in script call
call screen lana_talk
File "game/Necromancy.rpy", line 59, in script call
call screen Sara_talk
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Locations.rpy", line 167, in script call
call screen alch_talk
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Locations.rpy", line 167, in script call
call screen alch_talk
File "game/Locations.rpy", line 167, in script
call screen alch_talk
File "renpy/script.py", line 918, in lookup
raise ScriptError("could not find label '%s'." % str(original))
ScriptError: could not find label 'Sell_1_mushroom'.

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PhazeUFO said:
Your final post is exactly why it doesn't have many tags. You kink shame and try to ban what it is you don't like, so there isn't much loli allowed. Patreon banned it and incest, so games either don't have them or have to sneak them in. This site bans some forms of it, quite a lot actually, so it doesn't have many tags. Having listened to what was said over the years and how much was there before people started purging, I can say that yes, loli is a large kink and can contend with the others. It's in dark now, but the desire has and will continue to increase as it becomes harder to come by.

As for futa, that is a rising tag that has managed to inch itself in just about every corner at this point. Devs may not include it, but somewhere there will be someone that asks for it, and it will keep growing as the desire for transitioning in real life grows. Now, ntr is second I would say as that one encroaches more than the others. In fact, if incest wasn't desired as much, I would say ntr is. I could actually claim that it will overtake incest in some years due to the rise in real cuckoldry.

My point of the post was that although futa is huge and only getting bigger, thick futa isn't so large. Thick women, while a desire for some, isn't as big as futa, so the combination hasn't taken off yet. This is not me "stating my favorites" but actually analyzing and comparing porn wit real life. Since porn is a fantasy, it is a reflection of what we want in life and vice versa. Kink shame all you want, but if these sites were to lift their bans, you would see a fast rise in loli. If you were to see them follow patreon and ban rape or incest, you would see a decrease in the amount of tags they have, although I will admit that incest is much easier to hide.
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yes it is stating your favourites. i checked your post history. i conceded that incest was a big one. but ntr is nowhere near the top and thats including every game that has a single side character with ntr where ntr isnt the focus. go to any futa thread and listen to how much bitching there is that futa games get no support and die out before getting finished. games blatantly based on rape get banned on patreon, the most memorable is a game that had to be remade because the name molest was in the title. and it still has way more than incest, which has more than any other tag in your favourites. i never claimed no one asks for these things. in fact, i said quite the opposite. in every thread there is a very vocal MINORITY asking for more of it. 1 person asking in every thread doesnt mean its the most popular. you are arguing your opinion. i am arguing facts. therefore, we are not having the same argument.

child molestation should not exist. i will say it again. anyone fantasizing about it doesnt need an outlet, they need help.

good day ma'am.
 
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Joeburqa said:
yes it is stating your favourites. i checked your post history. i conceded that incest was a big one. but ntr is nowhere near the top and thats including every game that has a single side character with ntr where ntr isnt the focus. go to any futa thread and listen to how much bitching there is that futa games get no support and die out before getting finished. games blatantly based on rape get banned on patreon, the most memorable is a game that had to be remade because the name molest was in the title. and it still has way more than incest, which has more than any other tag in your favourites. i never claimed no one asks for these things. in fact, i said quite the opposite. in every thread there is a very vocal MINORITY asking for more of it. 1 person asking in every thread doesnt mean its the most popular. you are arguing your opinion. i am arguing facts. therefore, we are not having the same argument.

child molestation should not exist. i will say it again. anyone fantasizing about it doesnt need an outlet, they need help.

good day ma'am.
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If you wish to shitpost, then that is your choice, but since this isn't the place I will just leave you with this response. You are sorely mistaken if you believe that incest or ntr happen to be my favorites. Loli isn't even something that I search for on this site, so you would be wrong there as well. As for my post history, I rarely post in threads all things considering, so that would just show that certain threads usually have people that I like to converse with, not that I am strongly for said kink as you are stating. Things like futa/incest/ntr are usually either avoidable, or very small parts of games because whining people like you who chase and lash out on people for their kinks.

You are incorrect in your claim that blatant games get banned on Patreon. If the game includes it at all, and sometimes even step in the incest regard, it is banned. Since you are following my posts, check games like TOA or LewdMaze. The rape isn't even rape as they always enjoy the sex, so those games get away with it as it is just rapeplay. Although I will admit that I forgot furry, which is the biggest fetish I would say by far. Those games make the big bucks and have the hugely dedicated fans.

Go and comb the whole threads and you will see more than one person asking for either ntr, futa, or even incest. They are more desired than you seem to think. I even saw someone asking about loli in the Lifeplay thread awhile back, and some dude yesterday talking about that kind of thing. Again, not just one person, it's just that your holier than thou opinion is common enough for people to keep their mouths shut. I however care little for the opinions, so I will play the games I wish.

As I said, this is not the location for such a discussion as it has nothing to do with the game at hand, so this is simply to answer your false claims as you seem to be putting words in my mouth and making an argument for me while ignoring my actual one.
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tried selling mushrooms to the alchemist lady and got this


I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Locations.rpy", line 167, in script call
call screen alch_talk
File "game/Locations.rpy", line 167, in script call
call screen alch_talk
File "game/talk boxes.rpy", line 76, in script call
call screen lana_talk
File "game/talk boxes.rpy", line 76, in script call
call screen lana_talk
File "game/talk boxes.rpy", line 76, in script call
call screen lana_talk
File "game/Necromancy.rpy", line 59, in script call
call screen Sara_talk
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Locations.rpy", line 167, in script call
call screen alch_talk
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Locations.rpy", line 167, in script call
call screen alch_talk
File "game/Locations.rpy", line 167, in script
call screen alch_talk
ScriptError: could not find label 'Sell_1_mushroom'.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "renpy/bootstrap.py", line 326, in bootstrap
renpy.main.main()
File "renpy/main.py", line 617, in main
run(restart)
File "renpy/main.py", line 148, in run
renpy.execution.run_context(True)
File "renpy/execution.py", line 922, in run_context
context.run()
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Locations.rpy", line 167, in script call
call screen alch_talk
File "game/Locations.rpy", line 167, in script call
call screen alch_talk
File "game/talk boxes.rpy", line 76, in script call
call screen lana_talk
File "game/talk boxes.rpy", line 76, in script call
call screen lana_talk
File "game/talk boxes.rpy", line 76, in script call
call screen lana_talk
File "game/Necromancy.rpy", line 59, in script call
call screen Sara_talk
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Locations.rpy", line 167, in script call
call screen alch_talk
File "game/Smithing.rpy", line 145, in script call
call screen teha_dialog
File "game/Locations.rpy", line 167, in script call
call screen alch_talk
File "game/Locations.rpy", line 167, in script
call screen alch_talk
File "renpy/script.py", line 918, in lookup
raise ScriptError("could not find label '%s'." % str(original))
ScriptError: could not find label 'Sell_1_mushroom'.

Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.8.1895
Grind Times 1.0
Sat May 28 01:39:38 2022
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I haven't had this issue. I wonder if it's a Win10 issue? I know on my old Win7 I had an issue with the sex scene with the trap dude and it would crash.
 
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Yo this games amazing the blacksmith is one hot lady really cant wait to see what she's packing.
the scenes could use some cumshots and some sound other than that I'm loving it so far.
 
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PhazeUFO said:
If you wish to shitpost, then that is your choice, but since this isn't the place I will just leave you with this response. You are sorely mistaken if you believe that incest or ntr happen to be my favorites. Loli isn't even something that I search for on this site, so you would be wrong there as well. As for my post history, I rarely post in threads all things considering, so that would just show that certain threads usually have people that I like to converse with, not that I am strongly for said kink as you are stating. Things like futa/incest/ntr are usually either avoidable, or very small parts of games because whining people like you who chase and lash out on people for their kinks.

You are incorrect in your claim that blatant games get banned on Patreon. If the game includes it at all, and sometimes even step in the incest regard, it is banned. Since you are following my posts, check games like TOA or LewdMaze. The rape isn't even rape as they always enjoy the sex, so those games get away with it as it is just rapeplay. Although I will admit that I forgot furry, which is the biggest fetish I would say by far. Those games make the big bucks and have the hugely dedicated fans.

Go and comb the whole threads and you will see more than one person asking for either ntr, futa, or even incest. They are more desired than you seem to think. I even saw someone asking about loli in the Lifeplay thread awhile back, and some dude yesterday talking about that kind of thing. Again, not just one person, it's just that your holier than thou opinion is common enough for people to keep their mouths shut. I however care little for the opinions, so I will play the games I wish.

As I said, this is not the location for such a discussion as it has nothing to do with the game at hand, so this is simply to answer your false claims as you seem to be putting words in my mouth and making an argument for me while ignoring my actual one.
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I haven't had this issue. I wonder if it's a Win10 issue? I know on my old Win7 I had an issue with the sex scene with the trap dude and it would crash.
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Joeburqa said:
yes it is stating your favourites. i checked your post history. i conceded that incest was a big one. but ntr is nowhere near the top and thats including every game that has a single side character with ntr where ntr isnt the focus. go to any futa thread and listen to how much bitching there is that futa games get no support and die out before getting finished. games blatantly based on rape get banned on patreon, the most memorable is a game that had to be remade because the name molest was in the title. and it still has way more than incest, which has more than any other tag in your favourites. i never claimed no one asks for these things. in fact, i said quite the opposite. in every thread there is a very vocal MINORITY asking for more of it. 1 person asking in every thread doesnt mean its the most popular. you are arguing your opinion. i am arguing facts. therefore, we are not having the same argument.

child molestation should not exist. i will say it again. anyone fantasizing about it doesnt need an outlet, they need help.

good day ma'am.
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Damn guys, just so much text you write under the porn, don't wanna help me with dialogs in-game?

By the way, you're both wrong and right in the same time. Tags on this site are completely broken so making an analysis only on numbers on tags is not enough.
I will give you example with my game. When I released the prologue modders added a slave/sex slave/slavery tags. Do you remember at the end of the prologue we saved the girl from bandits? So modders saw one frame of a girl with shackles and for that reason they ping these tags. I can't blame them for it, they can't play in all this shit that we(authors) posting here, so I manually deleted it, but what if I don't ?
Also, don't forget about commercial (aka 8 years of developing but still early access only at Patreon) projects which made only to earn money and not to realize their ideas and ambitions. These artists make a huge amount of kinks but with only one picture, only to pin all tags what possible for taking all attention. So talking about popular and not popular tags is not correct and pointless without playing in all stuff what's posted here.

So if you think "tag is popular because I can find it in every game" - is true, but it can be added as fanservice or accidentally, not as the main concept of the game. So the amount of content with that tag can be a little but tag numbers say opposite things.
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Damn guys, just so much text you write under the porn, don't wanna help me with dialogs in-game?

By the way, you're both wrong and right in the same time. Tags on this site are completely broken so making an analysis only on numbers on tags is not enough.
I will give you example with my game. When I released the prologue modders added a slave/sex slave/slavery tags. Do you remember at the end of the prologue we saved the girl from bandits? So modders saw one frame of a girl with shackles and for that reason they ping these tags. I can't blame them for it, they can't play in all this shit that we(authors) posting here, so I manually deleted it, but what if I don't ?
Also, don't forget about commercial (aka 8 years of developing but still early access only at Patreon) projects which made only to earn money and not to realize their ideas and ambitions. These artists make a huge amount of kinks but with only one picture, only to pin all tags what possible for taking all attention. So talking about popular and not popular tags is not correct and pointless without playing in all stuff what's posted here.

So if you think "tag is popular because I can find it in every game" - is true, but it can be added as fanservice or accidentally, not as the main concept of the game. So the amount of content with that tag can be a little but tag numbers say opposite things.
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well, i did mention under several points in my first reply that there was a certain amount of those that were incidental. big tits goes into a lot of games that isnt the main focus of the game. but there are a substantial amount of games where the focus is solely big tits (more or less, there is also sex and stuff, but the focus is on women with gigantic tits). there is a thread that keeps a list of every game someone points out that has all massive tits all the time. nothing less than bigger than head qualifies. and there are like 200 entries. and thats just the games where the focus is on unrealistically giant tits. let alone all the ones that have a focus on more natural size of large breasts. let alone all the ones that have a certain number of characters with that particular trait who bring about all the kinks that come along with it. cant titty fuck mosquito bites...

the point was that just because he likes them doesnt mean they are the most popular. yes, the numbers arent absolute. but having 2500 games with rape tagged (and im sure a large number are a scene or two, but there are probably hundreds or more that are the sole focus) vs 400 games with loli tagged (where im sure a large number are tagged because a game has a single loli character, even if some of them are solely focused on the lolis) still indicates that there is more of a fanbase or at least creatorbase for rape than loli. the same could be said for most of the tags i mentioned. if 20% of each tag is solely focused on the tag, thats still 500-80. if 100% of loli is loli focused and 20% of rape is rape focused its still 500-400. ish. i dont remember the exact numbers, but you get the idea. at the end of the day, the numbers wont be absolute, and some are likely to be biased towards incidental inclusion because they span multiple genres, but the others mentioned also suffer from the same problem (which i also addressed, read the line about ntr in my second reply, the one you quoted), meaning that the amount of tagged games at the very least suggests what people enjoy more than others. saying futa protag games are most popular when there are 800 vs 6000 male protag games is just blatantly inaccurate, and saying that its incidental and feelings are your proof isnt an argument.

Either way, interesting game. hopefully it keeps going.
 
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Too much unnecessary rape if there was a optional female protagonist and she was raped by futa that would be fine with me but so far the game don't seem to be what I seek.
 
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