Ren'Py Guest House [v0.2.3] [Soft Whisper Games]

[Iamthegoldengod]

It seems like some players are avoiding the game because of Hyuna. Does everyone genuinely dislike her or is this a vocal minority? I could rewrite her, but that would make me a bit sad since she's my favorite character. I've got some really great plans for her, but I'd like to hear some feedback. I tried my best to create a range of personality types since making everyone completely innocent would make the game a bit bland, in my opinion.

I have no issues with Hyuna. I have huge respect for devs that tell the story that they WANT to tell rather than change it just to satisfy the crowds. But I understand that it's also a business at the end of the day so you need customers willing to pay for your product so it just comes down to integrity vs survival for you.

After having visited alot of forums, it seems like a good chunk of people generally tend to shit on NTR and LIs that are prostitute or do "slutty" stuff. I personally don't mind it since it makes it more realistic and tells me that not everyone is waiting for the MC to defile them and LIs have their own lives like actual adults.

Since this type of media serves as a escape from reality, i understand why some would prefer the LIs to be more purer or would want to avoid certain scenes. I become conflicted when the same people have no issue with man-whore playthroughs but I understand that it's again trying to fulfill a fantasy and so people will complain if the game tries to against that (especially if the game promises something and then delivers opposite).

 

[michael1984]

Well have to say nice start so far

Enjoying the harem situation with Asians

The sex animations could use some work imo

Nothing much to say yet since its barely getting past some introductions of the characters

But will keep a eye on this one

 

[Soft Whisper]

I have no issues with Hyuna. I have huge respect for devs that tell the story that they WANT to tell rather than change it just to satisfy the crowds. But I understand that it's also a business at the end of the day so you need customers willing to pay for your product so it just comes down to integrity vs survival for you.

After having visited alot of forums, it seems like a good chunk of people generally tend to shit on NTR and LIs that are prostitute or do "slutty" stuff. I personally don't mind it since it makes it more realistic and tells me that not everyone is waiting for the MC to defile them and LIs have their own lives like actual adults.

Since this type of media serves as a escape from reality, i understand why some would prefer the LIs to be more purer or would want to avoid certain scenes. I become conflicted when the same people have no issue with man-whore playthroughs but I understand that it's again trying to fulfill a fantasy and so people will complain if the game tries to against that (especially if the game promises something and then delivers opposite).

I'm doing my best to stay away from that genre by making the protagonist the only man in the game. I figured Hyuna being an e-girl is okay since this sort of content appears in titles like harem hotel with Maria. Maybe I've got myself in a bit of a pickle though.

 

[Harem4life]

It seems like some players are avoiding the game because of Hyuna. Does everyone genuinely dislike her or is this a vocal minority?

All yourself this question, would you date a camslut?

Sluts, whores, onlyfans sluts, cam sluts etc are a huge no for many of us. We won't tolerate it even in a game. I mean, we play this game to escape from reality. Why would I look forward to date a slut?

Sluts are fine as side chicks(the one who come, fuck MC, leave and comes back only to fuck again) but some people won't like them as side chicks as well.

So, make this game the way you want. Stick to your vision.

 

[Soft Whisper]

All yourself this question, would you date a camslut?

Sluts, whores, onlyfans sluts, cam sluts etc are a huge no for many of us. We won't tolerate it even in a game. I mean, we play this game to escape from reality. Why would I look forward to date a slut?

Sluts are fine as side chicks(the one who come, fuck MC, leave and comes back only to fuck again) but some people won't like them as side chicks as well.

So, make this game the way you want. Stick to your vision.

Personally, it wouldn't bother me unless things were getting more serious. I mean, I enjoy watching camgirls, but maybe that's just me. That's why I'm asking for outside opinions.

Btw Hyuna's role as the least innocent girl has some relevance to the story. All the women are competing with each other and are looking for any excuse to say they're the better option. Jiho actually tries to make this point in 0.1.2.

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[Harem4life]

Personally, it wouldn't bother me

well, it bothers most of us. She would be a great LI for an NTR game. Many Harem fans won't like her.

I enjoy watching camgirls

All of us watched porn at some point of time and some of us might be Down to fuck these pornstars but do you really think we would want to date these pornstars?

Her role as camgirl has some relevance to the story.

Doesn't really matter if this story of hers made her a camslut. Every sex worker has a reason to become what they are. Should be normalise whores?

She attempts to cast Hyuna in a negative light by pulling up her stream, surprising the protagonist with adult content. However, this ultimately backfires since the protagonist is clearly attracted to her.

and that's where we players want to have a choice. As a player I don't want MC to be attracted to her romantically.

There are girls men only wants to fuck and then there are girls men would consider dating. She falls in the first category.

 

[Soft Whisper]

Well, I hope most players aren't willing to write off an entire game because they dislike one character. It sounds like the other girls are okay at least.

 

[rrr@rrr]

Hyuna is not a whore, she will become a whore if she has a relationship with the hero, she will fuck with other characters, you have people who agree with your vision of your same game and support you financially, don’t betray their trust, and especially don’t follow the lead of a bunch of whining submissive infantile Sheldons who escaped from evil and terrible reality into the game in the hope of twitching their penises to see what super duper alpha children they are and where all the women (virgins, of course) humbly stand on their knees waiting for the player to fuck them

 

[Soft Whisper]

Hyuna is not a whore, she will become a whore if she has a relationship with the hero, she will fuck with other characters, you have people who agree with your vision of your same game and support you financially, don’t betray their trust, and especially don’t follow the lead of a bunch of whining submissive infantile Sheldons who escaped from evil and terrible reality into the game in the hope of twitching their penises to see what super duper alpha children they are and where all the women (virgins, of course) humbly stand on their knees waiting for the player to fuck them

I agree that Hyuna isn't as bad some people think. She may do camgirl stuff, but her body count is very low, if not full on virgin status. Her only interest is in the protagonist and she never sleeps around or cheats. This will be revealed over time and I hope people can come to see that she has a very deep and loving personality. She's supposed to bring a lot of positivity to the table when she's not busy fighting with Jisoo for your affection.

 

[Cruiser80]

No matter what you do, a loud mob will scream at you.

I have no issue with Hyuna though. I do play games with characters I don't like for one reason or another. Sometimes I avoid the character if possible, other times I rewrite canon in my head.

 

[Sngo]

There's only one man in the game and that's you, the protagonist. The player will literally be surrounded by females everywhere he goes.

You won me with this.

It seems like some players are avoiding the game because of Hyuna. Does everyone genuinely dislike her or is this a vocal minority? I could rewrite her, but that would make me a bit sad since she's my favorite character. I've got some really great plans for her, but I'd like to hear some feedback. I tried my best to create a range of personality types since making everyone completely innocent would make the game a bit bland, in my opinion.



The store bought user interface is incompatible with android and I don't know how to adapt it since I'm not that good at coding. Other devs are welcome to make ports of my game though.

And you lost me with Hyuna.

I actually don't mind some KN if they don't force me into things I don't like and the story is interesting enough but then you force Hyuna on us and many here in the harem just avoid sluts and camsluts like the plague. I hate whores for example so yeah I avoid game that put whores as LI.

Loved the Korean theme so yeah I was very disappointed with the way you created Hyuna.

But its your game if you like that kind of love interest kudos to you and keep going but yeah many will avoid the game because of Hyuna.

Regardless of your decision good luck with your first project it seems it might could be interesting except Hyuna. Maybe I can keep playing your next project if you do one and it dont have sluts as LI.

 

[rrr@rrr]

let her be a dominant mistress in her shows and give the player the opportunity to join her and fuck random bitches together

 

[Soft Whisper]

You won me with this.



And you lost me with Hyuna.

I actually don't mind some KN if they don't force me into things I don't like and the story is interesting enough but then you force Hyuna on us and many here in the harem just avoid sluts and camsluts like the plague. I hate whores for example so yeah I avoid game that put whores as LI.

Loved the Korean theme so yeah I was very disappointed with the way you created Hyuna.

But its your game if you like that kind of love interest kudos to you and keep going but yeah many will avoid the game because of Hyuna.

Regardless of your decision good luck with your first project it seems it might could be interesting except Hyuna. Maybe I can keep playing your next project if you do one and it dont have sluts as LI.

I see, so are you also avoiding Badik and HH? Or is it just my game for some reason? I'm trying to figure out how I've done anything different than other major devs besides my game being much shorter since I just launched. Many of my favorite games have less than pure women (not to mention all the dudes standing around in the background, which I purposely avoided adding in Guest House so the game would appeal to as many players as possible). In Badik, I remember one or two of the girls are prostitutes being managed by the sorority chick and in HH, you join your LI while she streams. Do those games also lose you with these scenes?

I'm just genuinely curious since this will help me determine whether Hyuna being a wild gal is an issue or not. This doesn't seem to be an uncommon theme and it hasn't stopped those games from being successful.

 

[infernoK]

yesssssssssssssiiiiirrrrrrrrr. LETSGOOOOOOOOO.

Good luck dev, can't wait for more. I mean really more. hehe. Take your time! Kudos

 

[jclosed]

No matter what you do, a loud mob will scream at you.

I have no issue with Hyuna though. I do play games with characters I don't like for one reason or another. Sometimes I avoid the character if possible, other times I rewrite canon in my head.

I can only agree. She shows her body on a cam stream. So what? It's not that she lent herself to be used physically "in person", now does she? In short - I have no problems with that. The statement that "most of us" would be bothered about it, is just an assumption and nothing more.

Compared to other VN's here this VN is very tame. No cheap things like mind control and/or hypnosis, "superpowers", blackmail, violence, rape and more of that "funny" stuff. The body's are realistic without having unrealistic (and frighting) body proportions, like balloon boobs and elephant hips separated by a wasp middle.

I short - I like this VN "as it is", and don't mind one bit about that cam stuff. I think the author of this VN just should do the things he wants to do without being pushed to do things he does not like. I urge him to go on like that, and don't feel being forced by a vocal minority. So far it is going very well I must say...

 

[hysepReC]

What exactly is a "broadcast jockey"? Is it just another a phrase Koreans use for streamer? Hyuna seems nice and all but if she's getting naked on camera for anyone to see, she is not someone that i'd want to date. If she was just looking for some casual fun then fine but it seems like she sees the MC as boyfriend material and since this is a Kinetic Novel, i assume we won't have the option to turn her down.

 

[Soft Whisper]

What exactly is a "broadcast jockey"? Is it just another a phrase Koreans use for streamer? Hyuna seems nice and all but if she's getting naked on camera for anyone to see, she is not someone that i'd want to date. If she was just looking for some casual fun then fine but it seems like she sees the MC as boyfriend material and since this is a Kinetic Novel, i assume we won't have the option to turn her down.

Yes, broadcast jockey refers to korean women who stream sexy shows. Tbh, this is going to make up such a minor part of the game (maybe a few minutes at most), I don't see why it's an issue. Players can just hold the ctrl skip key if they see something they dislike. Creating variables and turning a linear story into a full on visual novel for the sake of one character will create mountains of work that will slow down development.

Granted, it's possible and I may do this after the main story is complete, but it probably won't be something I can include in the first few updates. Excluding Hyuna from the Harem would require double rendering every adult scene. Very difficult. Very time consuming. Quite frustrating lol.

Again, Hyuna's not some horrible person that everyone should be trying to avoid. She's actually a sweet girl that's just a bit wild since I didn't want everyone in the game to be innocent virgins. Her purpose in the story is to take the protag on less vanilla adventures. With that being said, there's never going to be other men around. Maybe other women since the house is full of women, but that's obvious.

She wants to take you street racing in her sick ride, night clubbing at the place she DJs at, and maybe doing a little cam streaming with her as the most edgy thing I can think of. I have a very wholesome story planned out with her. The player will be undertaking a heartfelt journey to stop her reckless behavior by giving her true meaning in her life through love... Not the kind of love she can find online, but in your arms.

 

[Simulacrum29]

I'm doing my best to stay away from that genre by making the protagonist the only man in the game. I figured Hyuna being an e-girl is okay since this sort of content appears in titles like harem hotel with Maria. Maybe I've got myself in a bit of a pickle though.

every one is always citing Maria as why camgirls are fine. The thing is the game is fucking ancient, its hit this website in 2018 that's 6 years ago that's is an eternity in game dev time. back then we had nothing to play there were only very few devs that made this kind of games if you not counting the Japanese.

That's why those devs have the massive following that they now have and why they could do shit that's a instant ignore today, but that ship has sailed today the marked is flooded so blocking a game because it has something you dislike is trivial at best.

to your question if people would avoid the game because of her? i now multiple discord servers full of people that would.

We were backstabbed so often in those years that we are no longer willing to cut new devs some slack. Well that's not entirely true if a dev can understand why something sucks and tries to correct that we are willing to wait 1-2 additional updates to see if it gets better, but that's it.

And to be honest an e-girl is nothing special every game on this site that's not fantasy has an fucking e-girl. they are fucking every where and only because she is a whore that fucks herself with some horsecock dildos in front of a screen, and doesn't get plowed by some nameless john, doesn't make it better she's still selling her intimacy to every one that has 5 bucks, even a crackwhore in an ally takes at least 20$. e-girls that want to make bank must du some vile shit and even meet up with dudes from those sites or they wouldn't pull those numbers.

but thats only my opinion

 

[Soft Whisper]

That's why those devs have the massive following that they now have and why they could do shit that's a instant ignore today, but that ship has sailed today the marked is flooded so blocking a game because it has something you dislike is trivial at best.

Saying the market is flooded is a bit untrue in my case. I honestly can't find what I want to play, so I made my own game. Good looking asian girls in a harem seem to be a bit rare... At least when it comes to daz. Feel free to recommend any games that have asian daz models in them. I'd like to play them.

 

[hysepReC]

Yes, broadcast jockey refers to korean women who stream sexy shows. Tbh, this is going to make up such a minor part of the game (maybe a few minutes at most), I don't see why it's an issue.

Ok, so she's basically a camgirl. As for holding the ctrl button through her scenes, yeah i could do that. But I could also do the same in any VN that has a fetish i dislike, it kind of defeats the point of playing.

Yes, broadcast jockey refers to korean women who stream sexy shows. Tbh, this is going to make up such a minor part of the game (maybe a few minutes at most), I don't see why it's an issue. Players can just hold the ctrl skip key if they see something they dislike. Creating variables and turning a linear story into a full on visual novel for the sake of one character will create mountains of work that will slow down development.

Granted, it's possible and I may do this after the main story is complete, but it probably won't be something I can include in the first few updates. Excluding Hyuna from the Harem would require double rendering every adult scene. Very difficult. Very time consuming. Quite frustrating lol.

That's fair! I'm not asking you to change anything. Just giving my personal opinion as i always do in these threads.

Again, Hyuna's not some horrible person that everyone should be trying to avoid. She's actually a sweet girl that's just a bit wild since I didn't want everyone in the game to be innocent virgins. Her purpose in the story is to take the protag on less vanilla adventures. With that being said, there's never going to be other men around. Maybe other women since the house is full of women, but that's obvious.

Well, i never said she's a horrible person. Quite the opposite in fact, she seems nice. The kind of person i'd happily be friends with, but wouldn't want to date. I'm not someone who particularly cares whether a LI is a virgin or not, Ms. Kang obviously isn't one and i like her a lot. I'm just not interested in dating someone who does sex work and camwhoring is a form of that. Granted, it's not as bad as actual prostitution but still.

I have a very wholesome story planned out with her. The player will be undertaking a heartfelt journey to stop her reckless behavior by giving her true meaning in her life through love... Not the kind of love she can find online, but in your arms.

Hopefully this "wholesome story" involves the MC convincing her to change careers, then. But as i said, i'm not asking you to change anything. You should stick to the story as you've planned it.

Anyway, i do like the game even if my comments might suggest otherwise. Everything else is good enough that i can overlook the issue i have with Hyuna's career choice. You've done a great job with the models especially. It's nice to see a game with attractive South Korean girls.