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Not, I think, officially broken up — just de facto broken up — but yes, you're correct.
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Regardless of what MC (or us) thinks, Haley has spoken and made her opinion clear.
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Ya ur not alone there, Best to enjoy night scenes at night with lights off...
Ya'll I'm just still pissy about all the "would of"s.
Game's great though, god damn I love the writing of the story. Just not the would ofs.
Game's great though, god damn I love the writing of the story. Just not the would ofs.
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No they dont... That bit of RolePlay is Beautiful, Maybe the dev will stick more Daddy Sweet Talk in?
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Gonna defend Qwasar a bit here.
That this is already an incest game is not what makes it ironic, it's actually why so many people have issues with it. Let me try to explain:
1. Calling someone who is already a relative by another relative designation just sounds odd. e.g. Suppose in a mom/son incest story the son started calling her "Auntie" instead. Chances are the Mom is going to be thinking "WTF, does he actually want to fuck my sister rather than me" rather than thinking "ooh that's hot." (It's not a case of; well it's already incest so who cares.)
2. There has to be some mutuality in RolePlay. Calling someone daddy/pretending to be someone's daddy is perfectly fine. The issue here is that Haley's daddy is also the MC's daddy. That's what makes it weird. e.g. Cersei calling Euron "Daddy" is fine. Cersei calling Jamie "Tywin" and Jamie pretending to be not just any father but his own father when he is fucking Cersei is like "whhhattt?"
If Haley has a sub kink, calling the MC "boss," or "master" instead would not have resulted in so many people commenting on it.
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Except that "daddy" is completely standard and normal BDSM vocabulary irrespective of the actual familial relationships involved. She hasn't called him by their father's real name, she's just employing a very common term for someone a sub hopes will dominate or top her. The MC doesn't appear to have a problem with it, and if he doesn't and Haley doesn't then there's really no issue.
I simply don't believe that the majority of the objections were about there being a confusing father/brother conflation, and if you go back and read them it's clear that it was mostly an incorrect interpretation of the appellation as being an unexpected tranfer from one type of incest fetish to another. Except that it never was.
Let Haley express her kinks and her sexuality the way she wants to.
I simply don't believe that the majority of the objections were about there being a confusing father/brother conflation, and if you go back and read them it's clear that it was mostly an incorrect interpretation of the appellation as being an unexpected tranfer from one type of incest fetish to another. Except that it never was.
Let Haley express her kinks and her sexuality the way she wants to.
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I apologize for two posts in a row, but this is a self-sufficient addendum.
People who have trouble with "daddy" are viewing it through the lens of the player or the MC. But it's Haley that's using the word. It's Haley who gets to define what she means by it. There's zero evidence that she's confused about her usage. There's zero evidence she secretly wants her actual father. She's not Alana, substitute-fucking Jack while the MC substitute-fucks Haley. She has a whole pantheon of submissive desires and calling the person she wants to be her dominant in those explorations "daddy" is her chosen emotional relationship. In a game where twins are about to fuck, "daddy" is not the hill upon which to die.
People who have trouble with "daddy" are viewing it through the lens of the player or the MC. But it's Haley that's using the word. It's Haley who gets to define what she means by it. There's zero evidence that she's confused about her usage. There's zero evidence she secretly wants her actual father. She's not Alana, substitute-fucking Jack while the MC substitute-fucks Haley. She has a whole pantheon of submissive desires and calling the person she wants to be her dominant in those explorations "daddy" is her chosen emotional relationship. In a game where twins are about to fuck, "daddy" is not the hill upon which to die.
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I'd say that's a matter of opinion, it's not 'dipping' if you've avoided Sandra from the start, she doesn't do anything for me. The first time I saw Alana I was wanting the MC to go after that though. It's all a matter of preference.
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Methos23 Nailed it when he said: Ironic.
This IS an incest VN, hence the Irony.
Mr. Spock... Along with your Vulcan Logic...
To your Point 1. : No comparison, Your Point is Weak at best. You allude, to make comparisons between substitute names vs Affectionate terms of endearment...
Please Kindly get your facts straight.
To your point 2... Not worth responding to, you go from weak points to just plain not worth responding to... so I wont bother.
Get this through your head:
Haley has made her choice, who are you to judge?
Haley has spoken, Who are you to argue?
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Fair Point Mr Segnbora, Well made.
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Ya your right, It does come down to choice:
To Dip or not to Dip is the question...
I know what your saying, and each of us has our tastes, thing is Alana is a Side char... not part of the Main crew so i hardly see that being on the cards.
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You realize that Haley is a fictitious character, right? It's the dev(s) who have made this writing decision.
I am not judging anything, just pointing out why this choice of term sticks out to many people, while many others like yourself are fine with it. There is no right or wrong answer here; some people think adding ice onto a whiskey diminishes it, some think it makes it better. It's differing tastes and opinions, and in the context of this being a game people can "argue with Haley" by not pursuing her romantic arc if they so choose.
Have a good day now.
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But this game is suppose to give pleasure to players not pissed of players! Why is that necessary for Alana to say that and imagine other guy while she's not very much drunk and can still recognize whom she is with. That's bullshit and completely unnecessary
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From the MC's perspective, he is picturing/imagening Haley and she imagines Jack. Both, Alana and MC are just using the other as an replacement to releasing tension/steam. It's just a one time thing.
Nonsense! I don't ever recall MC imagining Haley while having sex with another woman (Adrianna, Sandra, Diane, Alana) even though he is in love with his sis. Alana is just the one imagining another guy, MC's reaction is " What ?! who's Jake?" so he is not imagining anyone . Just a one time thing? then that's really disappointing, how did you know? and I still hope there will be a proper hookup with Alana, since she is one of the routes (If Sandra rejects)
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That would have been hot if it was true. Mc never imagines Haley during that scene.
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Because she said, "let's not make more of it." Guess it's just that one time. And she want that Jake guy not the MC. Maybe it's just her who's imagening, who cares, both got what they needed.
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You seem agitated.
Their discussion at the bar makes it absolutely, 100% clear where her head's at. She flat-out tells him about Jack, even though she doesn't give him a name until later. ("Looking for affirmation. There's this guy at work. He says he won't leave his wife.") The MC even calls her out on it ("That's half your fault. I mean...if you knew he was married.") with which she agrees. He also tells her why he's drinking alone ("The insanity of your gender"), and since he's de facto broken up with Sandra by then, there's only one woman he can possibly be talking about. If the MC goes home with her anyway, that's on him. She even emphasizes what's happening while they're having sex ("We shouldn't look at each other."), to which the MC assents. And when he asks "who's Jake?" and she responds "do you care?", it turns out that he doesn't.
You compared this to netorare. That's ludicrous. Utterly insane. Alana's not your girlfriend or your unrequited love interest. She's a one-night stand. ("If I hadn't run into you, I might've taken some asshole home.") ("You're not spending the night." "When you put it like that..." "Were you planning to?" "No. Let's not make of this more than there is.") There is cheating going on, but it's between Alana, Jack, and Jack's wife. Alana wants someone else and, when that falls through, decides to get laid to take her mind off her troubles. The MC's a convenient dick, just as much of a one-night stand as Alana is, and he's using her for the very same purpose.
The MC fucking Alana could be considered poor behavior on his part, and there's an argument to be made that he shouldn't do it just based on his own personal morality, but we'd have to know Haley's feelings on the matter to know for sure whether or not she's upset by it. (My guess, based on the writing thus far: she's not. I certainly don't think she has any illusions as to why he got home so late, and if anything she's encouraged him to have sex with others.)
There's no "What?!" That's all in your head. It's a very calm question, answered immediately with no negative effects. The scene proceeds with everyone enjoying themselves and then he leaves. As for who he's imagining, you do remember why he's at the at the bar in the first place, right? It's immediately after his confrontation with Haley. He tells Alana he's trying to drown his sorrows, just like he did a few nights earlier, but Haley's clearly on his mind because their relationship is his "sorrow." For reasons that I think should be obvious he's not going to call out his sister's name while he's having sex with someone else, and maybe he's not actually thinking about her while it's happening, but Haley's 100% of the reason the MC is having sex with Alana in the first place.
What gives you the idea she's a "route?" There are only two routes in this game so far: Sandra/no Sandra and whether or not you're prioritizing Haley (e.g. accumulating points). Alana's a hot girl you can eventually fuck, but she's no more a "route" than Adriana is.
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