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Yep, Totally Agreed on that...
I want my Haley and my MTV lol
And leave the Feet for walking.
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I want my Haley and my MTV lol
And leave the Feet for walking.
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Literally my only complaint (now that Sandra is probably on her way out) about this game is how similar Lisa, Alana, and Diane are. Having all three be free sprirted women not wanting to be fully tied down is a bit much. Why didn't they make one, like preferably Diane, more the shy girl next door type or at least something different? I get that that's supposed to be Haley somewhat but she's your sister as well. DoDana had a nice variety of personalities that this game shoves mostly onto Haley.
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I think they're different enough, with one caveat. Diane really is just a free, uh, spirit. She's into the MC, but only for the thing she wants. Alana doesn't have any feelings for or interest in the MC at all; if he's available and she's horny, cool, but I rather suspect that an attempt to arrange something would be met with disbelief rather than mere resistance.
Lisa's the exception. She's flirted and they've danced around it, but unlike the others she hasn't had sex with the MC. Not really. (On the other hand, if the MC was in a committed relationship — say, with Sandra, just to pull a name out of a hat — his behavior with Lisa isn't particularly forgivable.) But I think saying that Lisa is another free spirit who doesn't want to be tied down gets her wrong. She does want to be tied down, and quite probably literally. She dates men she can control, but she's waiting for someone strong enough to control her. She constantly misbehaves for very little reason, she constantly annoys Sandra knowing that she's doing so (and gets away with it), and these are all classic brat behaviors. Since we know the writing (for Haley) understands this character archetype, I think that Lisa's acting out and playing the "she's too hot for them" field until someone reigns her in. Lisa will sleep around with a harem of malleable men until someone handcuffs her to a cage and makes her stop.
Now, I'm not saying the MC is or isn't the person to do that for Lisa. That presumes a really intense version of the beard scenario, and I still don't know if the story's going there. And while the MC clearly understands the d/s mentality, and does well enough with Haley (and Adriana if he pursues that relationship), Lisa's a whole different level of challenge. Lisa's the type that literally needs to be grabbed by the hair and dragged towards whatever punishment she's been begging for. In terms of a sub craving correction, she's Haley x 10.
The thing all the women except Diane have in common isn't a lack of interest in monogamy, it's that they want a stronger man to control them. Diane's a strong, confident woman who just likes sex...except that she likes herself even more than she likes sex. Diane's a domme without the interest in the work required to be a domme. Alana's the weakest case, and I'm doing some guessing, but her sexual interaction with the MC suggests that she wants to be taken more than she wants to be the one who takes. That said, I could be wrong about Alana. I've already made the case for Lisa. Adriana plays at being a domme but if the MC pushes her she very quickly and easily submits. She doesn't respect her husband, so she won't do it for him, but she's looking for someone who will and, like Lisa, will retain control until she finds him. Sandra is a force in the real world but needs someone to control her, sexually and personally, otherwise; her manias are uncontrollable except when the MC actually controls them, at which point she's clearly uncomfortable but unquestionably submits. As for Haley, her submissive sexual traits are explosively clear by now.
While I think this is all clear, I probably wouldn't be so bold about it if we didn't have precedent. In Dreaming of Dana we had the pure submissive (the secretary), the low-emotion swinger who needed a stronger man than her husband (the auditor), the domme (the yoga instructor), and a DLO switch who, once their relationship was established, wanted to submit (Dana). This writer knows and plays with d/s archetypes as a matter of course. None of the NPCs in Haley's Story track one-to-one with the Dreaming of Dana archetypes, but the context is there.
Lisa's the exception. She's flirted and they've danced around it, but unlike the others she hasn't had sex with the MC. Not really. (On the other hand, if the MC was in a committed relationship — say, with Sandra, just to pull a name out of a hat — his behavior with Lisa isn't particularly forgivable.) But I think saying that Lisa is another free spirit who doesn't want to be tied down gets her wrong. She does want to be tied down, and quite probably literally. She dates men she can control, but she's waiting for someone strong enough to control her. She constantly misbehaves for very little reason, she constantly annoys Sandra knowing that she's doing so (and gets away with it), and these are all classic brat behaviors. Since we know the writing (for Haley) understands this character archetype, I think that Lisa's acting out and playing the "she's too hot for them" field until someone reigns her in. Lisa will sleep around with a harem of malleable men until someone handcuffs her to a cage and makes her stop.
Now, I'm not saying the MC is or isn't the person to do that for Lisa. That presumes a really intense version of the beard scenario, and I still don't know if the story's going there. And while the MC clearly understands the d/s mentality, and does well enough with Haley (and Adriana if he pursues that relationship), Lisa's a whole different level of challenge. Lisa's the type that literally needs to be grabbed by the hair and dragged towards whatever punishment she's been begging for. In terms of a sub craving correction, she's Haley x 10.
The thing all the women except Diane have in common isn't a lack of interest in monogamy, it's that they want a stronger man to control them. Diane's a strong, confident woman who just likes sex...except that she likes herself even more than she likes sex. Diane's a domme without the interest in the work required to be a domme. Alana's the weakest case, and I'm doing some guessing, but her sexual interaction with the MC suggests that she wants to be taken more than she wants to be the one who takes. That said, I could be wrong about Alana. I've already made the case for Lisa. Adriana plays at being a domme but if the MC pushes her she very quickly and easily submits. She doesn't respect her husband, so she won't do it for him, but she's looking for someone who will and, like Lisa, will retain control until she finds him. Sandra is a force in the real world but needs someone to control her, sexually and personally, otherwise; her manias are uncontrollable except when the MC actually controls them, at which point she's clearly uncomfortable but unquestionably submits. As for Haley, her submissive sexual traits are explosively clear by now.
While I think this is all clear, I probably wouldn't be so bold about it if we didn't have precedent. In Dreaming of Dana we had the pure submissive (the secretary), the low-emotion swinger who needed a stronger man than her husband (the auditor), the domme (the yoga instructor), and a DLO switch who, once their relationship was established, wanted to submit (Dana). This writer knows and plays with d/s archetypes as a matter of course. None of the NPCs in Haley's Story track one-to-one with the Dreaming of Dana archetypes, but the context is there.
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I can't decide which is more turn-off. Footjobs or those "free spirited" side characters.
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The free spirited side characters are basically fan service. They are there to guarantee some additional sex scenes each update. If the devs wanted to develop personality for each and every one of them, it would deviate from the spotling on Haley, which is the story's focus.
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Women with sexual agency are such a turn-off. Mindless ciphers with available holes, please. 
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That's not really my complaint, my complaint is more the lack of variety, and your thesis paper sorta came to the same conclusion. Obviously we don't know a lot about the other girls yet so maybe I'll change my mind, but right now most of the girls in the game feel like that slutty friend archetype and it's a little too much for one game in my opinion.Women with sexual agency are such a turn-off. Mindless ciphers with available holes, please.
I completely agree, and Haley is by far and away my favorite, but if we're going to go with a beard, I'd like a little more options.
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The dig wasn't meant for you.
Are you suggesting that I'm loquacious?
I understand your point, but the game has given us a nutty but sweet girlfriend with availability issues, an "off" explorer who completely owns her sexuality, a convenient and extremely available devotée of casual sex, a cougar in an imbalanced power relationship, and a one night stand. Yes, I've just gone ahead and described them all differently...but I don't think I've mischaracterized any of them, either. To me, they all have individual character-specific motivations for being DTF. I think they are DTF because it's an adult game and until it's time for the MC and Haley there needs to be some sort of sex to placate the players, especially for people who've rejected Sandra (as bauman suggested), but I think it's a mistake to just look at the fact that they're sexually available and conclude that they're all the same. They have reasons, and they differ.
Yup, unfortunately. I go to youporn if i want to see "free spirited" girls and quick fap. For me, that shit ruins 95% of the visual novels here.
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They are optional though. Just don't do it, if you don't like it.
Wait. It's not the author has deficient abilities, why it comes to that ? it's just after the Bar scene we're talking about well anyway, It doesn't makes sense to talk to someone who can't understand what you feel . We will just start an unnecessary pointless argument, If you can't understand my sentiments then just don't reply.
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Change the name to Jake? well it's much better to edit the script and just remove the name Jake isn't it? so that she will just say "Fuck me"
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"Ntr, it seems your on way to write your own VN... Perhaps the title will be The life of Alana?"
Isn't this exaggeration? the life of Alana ? , Want to be a stud ? well I assure you, everyone else does, don't be a hypocrite, just because you don't care about Alana you only care about Haley, means you have the right to say that and to blame someone , if it was Haley who is drunk imagining someone else, I'm sure as hell you're complaining much worse than him
Proper scene, it doesn't mean that author has already deficient abilities by his estimation, it's just one scene because Alana is imagining another guy so he called that improper
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No need to get frustrated cuz u got no comeback NTR.... Really its OK
Besides... whats to understand... your the one making the comments here and when ur asked for a please explain, this is the best u got?
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Nutty and sweet? She is obsessive compulsive with focus on work. The MC should have run after first date. The first weekend she meant to be back she already standing him up. The sweet is not even out of affection but a perceived obligation or duty as shown at pool. Every aspect of her life is planned and organised including the sex and is no room for real emotion. She is a train wreck waiting to happen. She also a train wreck when she emotion does escape control as when she packing and the fear of unknown and uncontrolled hits her.The dig wasn't meant for you.
Are you suggesting that I'm loquacious?
I understand your point, but the game has given us a nutty but sweet girlfriend with availability issues, an "off" explorer who completely owns her sexuality, a convenient and extremely available devotée of casual sex, a cougar in an imbalanced power relationship, and a one night stand. Yes, I've just gone ahead and described them all differently...but I don't think I've mischaracterized any of them, either. To me, they all have individual character-specific motivations for being DTF. I think they are DTF because it's an adult game and until it's time for the MC and Haley there needs to be some sort of sex to placate the players, especially for people who've rejected Sandra (as bauman suggested), but I think it's a mistake to just look at the fact that they're sexually available and conclude that they're all the same. They have reasons, and they differ.
The off explorer is a man eater that leaves everyone who ever cared for her an emotional wreck including friends and family and that is extremely malicious the closer she gets.
The adrenaline junky so self absorbed and egotistical she doesn't want any male to detract from devotion to herself....
No the characters not the same but they really don't have any depth except through the imagination of members of this forum that giving them entire personalities that simply not in the actual game.
The characters only have a few limited facets and one or two serious mental disorders. They are ridiculously shallow, And the whole incest one step forward through attraction two steps back with guilty angst is beyond worn out and ridiculously contradicts both their limited personalities. And lets not even get into using Daddy her sudden desire to be punished and her possible father issues after crossing incest wall and making it look like she using MC as placeholder now Daddy not near.
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Not if you make different choices.
...which the MC is able to successfully disrupt twice. If they stayed together he'd have a positive influence on her.
I don't see that at all. She's extremely emotional; it's almost certainly why the physical and practical aspects of her life are hyper-controlled.
We also have completely opposite takes on Lisa.
How do you interpret Diane as an adrenaline junky? There's certainly no evidence for it in the text. She works out and she has commitment-free sex. That's not exactly base jumping.
I note, with some dismay, that you've managed to find a way to demean and harshly denigrate all the female NPCs. It's not especially charming.
...as I said.
A complete, and I begin to suspect willful, misunderstanding on your part.
You also seem to hate this game and everyone in it, which makes me wonder why you're playing it.
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Ok. One question: What's the point of those Haley+1 points for certain actions which can be seen in walkthrough? I collected literally 0 of those points and yet there's no difference...It ends up MC spanking and fingering Haley...Points or no points you can't avoid that...
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