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- May 22, 2017
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The same as ESKgamer ?
I'm sorry, but this really can't happen unless you've skipped the beginning of ep22.rpy, the beginning of the previous update of the game.
In every version mentioned - the original game, walkthrough mod and my bugfix, totally independent of the chosen path, ep22.rpy starts with this:
Python:
label ep22:
scene blackscreen
with dissolve
default adimovein = FalseThere is no way to skip it by simply playing the original incest-patched game, the game with added bugfix or walkthrough mod for v0.94 that I downloaded after ESKgamer said that he used it.
Perhaps it was missing in the previous version of the walkthrough mod? The original non-incest version? I don't know. Not by the info you two have provided. I don't know where it came from or how it happened.
However, I'm sure about where it didn't come from. Sure that it didn't come from the original incest version of v0.93 or v0.94, nor any of my bugfixes and neither from the walkthrough mod for v0.94.
It's impossible to reproduce it without skipping that part, the beginning of ep22.rpy of the script. The previous episode ends with a jump to label ep22, so the part is unskippable by just playing it.
Snipped a bit and adding some commentary.
You wouldn't see the adi scene on the Haley + Sandra path anyway. You're physically locked out of it since you can't meet her passed a certain point in the story.
If you mean you're getting the "sayer" error that's because the WT mod is dumb and renamed Alex to Ax and you likely have the other script files there from the incest patch.
- May 22, 2017
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Correct. But the variable is being set to False on both paths anyway, since both paths end at the end of ep21.rpy with the jump to label ep22.
Sandra's path however has not been an issue with this variable.
What? Dumb? Why?
The previous version v0.93 had a bug - Alexandra's character, named as "Girl" in this game, was defined as variable
al, the same as Alana before Alexandra's definition. So for anyone playing a part of the game with Alana in it, she would have been named as "Girl".So I made a bugfix that defined it as
ax among fixing other problems in ep22.rpy. The walkthrough mod obviously used the same bugfixed script files as a source. Makes perfect sense.The original developer decided to define the same character as
alex in the new version where most of the bugs of ep22.rpy are now fixed. Since alex is now the original character, I changed my new bugfix accordingly.Walkthrough mod decided not to follow the original script and stick with
ax (although by using search&replace it would be a simple fix to make). Is it dumb? I haven't said anything about it being dumb. Shit happens.I made the decision to use the
ax variable after all. I'm not a clairvoyant to be able to guess what the original coder will decide to use eventually.The fact that walkthrough sticked with "my variable" is kinda flattering
Adding my bugfix on top of the walkthrough mod makes no sense anyway, since it replaces modified ep22.rpy and ep23.rpy with bugfixed unmodified ones.
Whoever wants to play the game with the walkthrough mod with the new bugfix added to it, should just wait until those fixes are added to the mod. That is, if the author of the mod decides to add those minor fixes to his mod. Or play the fixed game without the mod or play the modded game without fixes.
Combining script replacing mods or patches is rarely a good idea.
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I mean you answered why it was dumb yourself.
However, that's on me for phrasing it as such. I often use dumb as a replacement for silly.
I understand that making a fix on the fly isn't something you can just have 100% insight into and you just have to wing it sometimes. I just mean that the WT mod still uses the unofficial script instead of using the correct one. If they updated that then we'd see less issues reported.
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could someone please tell me if there is actually any content regarding Klaus and any form of payback, Be it by legal or illegal means yet?? The story started to go down the path of giving the reader a choice of how things 'could' pan out with the sick fuck a few updates ago and I don't really want to keep downloading every time to be disappointed that we can't smash the fuckers face in yet!! It's great how the dev is telling a story of hayley's recovery and this is the first step to her finally moving on away from the abuse.. But as a reader I wan't nothing more than to see klaus be put six feet under after many hours of slow painful torture lol.
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i fell in love with haley back in built 0.85 but after built 0.90 i notice there was less gameplay after patreon found out they are twins like the update seems to be missing some alone time with haley...(on haleys path only) after patreon decided to remove incest in game, i switched to subscribestar but the site is a modd and took away all my save. now i will have to start over with her again .
- May 22, 2017
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The decision of adding my new bugfix patch on top of the walkthrough mod patch was not made by the author of the WT mod, but the players. So it has nothing to do with the mod itself per se.
And for the players I would call it an 'uninformed' decision. They obviously didn't know that fixes meant for the original game should not be used on the heavily modified one, since it either eliminates those modifications or causes unpredictable problems.
Sometimes two good things put together make a bad one.
Exactly. I winged it, since it was the only option at the time.
Now that this variable has a name that will stay the same in future versions, it made no sense to change it any more in the new bugfix.
WT mod developer decided that since his mod replaces all original script files anyway, it wouldn't matter how the character variable is named in his mod. He just failed to take into account the ingenuity of the players
Happens to all coders.
I remember now that I installed the incest patch (the stand alone one) and then the walkthrough and your bugfix. maybe the double incest patch installments is what's causing the error?
Because i have now re-installed the game and played it from the beginning w/o the wt mod and saved the game when me and Victor are on our way to meet Alexandra. I then replayed that part with the mod, neither times did the error appear.
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Not yet. We will have to wait until action returns to their home. I'm not sure when that will be. I could guess that it will be in the release after the next one, but my previous guesses as to when things might happen have proved ambitious, i.e wrong. So...
- May 22, 2017
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Depending on the order you applied those patches, maybe. But only in case the last one was the WT mod and if the previous version of the WT mod somehow missed that variable. Which I kind of doubt about.
Both the incest patch and my bugfix always were the same after label ep22, I'm sure.
But, just in case you don't remember exactly how you started to play v0.93 - maybe you started to play it before adding any patches to it? Played some of the beginning, then saved your position, patched it with the incest patch and continued from the save from a point after the beginning of episode 22?
Because it's more likely that some early version of the original non-incest version of the game had a bug. It missed that variable definition originally and it was added later to it. At least the one I downloaded a month ago already had it there, but I'm not sure that it's the same one that was first posted here or the one you played.
But that way it would be totally possible to miss that variable.
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I suspect that is a direct result of the Patreon interference. Each release now has to be designed and coded around two different premises. Two separate modules are built for each release. That all has to take some time, hence less content since they are sticking to their release timeline.
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As much as I love their relationship I can't be the only one who feels that Haley's obessesion with her Brother is a serious problem right? I get only being into this person regardless of them being a sibling and what not but her dependency on him is a lil worrisome to me especially since MC doesn't seem to have this "problem" if you want to call it that.
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Undoubtedly! Which is why these therapy sessions could be a double-edged sword. We want Haley to be 'cured' of her Klaus-guilt, but do we really want her to be 'cured' of her brother-obsession? In the real world, yes. In this porn game, for me, no.
Which brings up a question I have about the latest therapy session:
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Good question. The therapist should be understanding of it if Haley really did tell her everything.
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This release is an excellent example of what I love about this game.
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While I do agree with you...for the most part, I think the MC is nothing more than a narcissistic turd. He whines like a schoolyard sissy about how Haley is teasing him...how it is all her fault...all the while he is tapping everything not nailed down (depending on the route you are on). He would probably screw a snake if someone held it for him. He is wanting to have his cake and eat it too. As the saying goes, the heart wants what the heart wants. As Haley says in EP 12..."I've been thinking about this on and off since high school". She is in love with him and only him. He, however, is in love with himself and in getting laid.
It has been proven, medically, that mixing like DNA will have negative results, it is society that states that what they are doing is taboo, wrong, immoral...whatever word or phrase you want to use.
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As we approach the end of this game, it is time to speculate on whether the developers have plans for life after Haley. I haven't seen anything either here or on Patreon. If anyone has heard anything from Discord or elsewhere, please let us know.
But in the meantime, I have a few ideas for spin-offs: Lisa's Story; How Diane Won the Pole Dancing Contest; Richard's Amorous Adventures; How Victor Met Julian; Adriana and Gaston Have Some Fun; Alana - Searching For Mr. Jake; Dr Margaret Sexual Therapist; The Rise and Fall of Mr. Klaus; Dad Lusts After Mom (NTR); Jack's Mechanical Improvement.
I have these all registered. So I will expect royalties if any of them are adopted.
But in the meantime, I have a few ideas for spin-offs: Lisa's Story; How Diane Won the Pole Dancing Contest; Richard's Amorous Adventures; How Victor Met Julian; Adriana and Gaston Have Some Fun; Alana - Searching For Mr. Jake; Dr Margaret Sexual Therapist; The Rise and Fall of Mr. Klaus; Dad Lusts After Mom (NTR); Jack's Mechanical Improvement.
I have these all registered. So I will expect royalties if any of them are adopted.
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You realize that if the MC is a 'narcissistic turd', it is because of the choices that you made, and how you view those choices. Others have made choices so that he is a loving and caring person, who is completely loyal to his sister. Still others have given the MC one particular girlfriend to love. Nothing turd-ish about that. The MC is a single male. So players also have the ability to select some other girl as his girlfriend. Or even to try different girls, while he makes up his mind about his sister. Why does that last option cause you such grief?
You mention how Haley has always felt about her brother. But that is an obsession she has had forever. But, while the MC has always been attracted to his sister, he is NOT obsessed. It takes a while for him to realize just how deeply his love is for Haley. Until then he does exactly what normal, single males of his age do - he dates girls. OH THE HUMANITY!
I have to ask, if you feel so strongly about this, why are you even playing this game? Please don't tell me that you didn't realize that's where the game was headed when you started playing. Any intelligent person would know what was going to happen within 5 minutes of playing it, tag or no tag.