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for the circle of strife quest, is the kellos juggernaut suppose to be unkillable or what. because i have been wailing on this thing for the last half n hour. the battle logs keeps on saying he is defeated and then pops back up. frankly i'm trapped in the battle screen. the battle im talking about is after you pass through the forge house and the mc exclaims that he heard a loud noise or something after you pass the east gate
i had this problem too
i posted a solution a while back
use search function to find it
 
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This game is a goldmine of references. From a quest named "da orcest dungeon" , tornaments against the Avengers and smash bros characters, anime characters cameos, to enemies referencing stormcasts from age of sigmar and a unholy fusion between megumin and a teostra from monster hunter that unleashes an EKUSPLOSION after flying, the dev is likely a huge nerd, and i love it.
 
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Tobitaka Kamui

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Would have never guessed that thank you

Edit: What even the fuck was that boss

2nd Edit: Ok any tips for the boss
Didn't look if anybody had answered it, but somehow i just the surviving party member(it was Felix on my case) throw nail bombs at the thing which caused it to bleed 1000-2000 damage per turn and would heal himself with mid potions, managed to survive a few turns and actually got to defeat the thing.
 

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I'm having problems with the Boss of Hell to Pay

From the wiki:
Finally, go through the passage at the top of the room to enter the treasury and the final boss fight. After some dialogue, you'll fight Xaven and Bell the Bane. Xaven starts with the Charged Weapon buff and will deal lightning damage with every normal attack. He will also use rites like Acid Rain, but instead of taking damage himself, he redirects all of it towards Bell. Bell will damage herself to buff Xaven until she reaches a certain level of health. After that, she will use Perfect Guard, which redirects any damage against Xaven to her. Since she is a bane, her damage will increase the more health she loses. At some point, she would simply one-shot your party with her Karma-technique that hits everyone, so you need to heal her up to lower her damage output. For that, use some of the demon potions on her to heal a huge amout of her health. Don't try to kill her off, she simply has too much health to defeat her before she defeats you. When she uses Perfect Guard, you can use stun or knockdown to interupt her. Focus damage on Xaven and use Demon Potions on Bell regularly and the fight will be over sooner than you might expect. After you deal about 25.000 damage to Xaven, he will die and Bell will stop fighting you.
I'm playing with Felix, Kryie, and Larelle in the party and they are all level 44/45. I first started with 20 Demon potions and eventually game over, with lots of death and reviving. So I edited the save and gave myself 10 more demon potions and although it lasted longer, still, lots of death and reviving until I was out of demon potions which left the bane able to use karma and wipe out the party. I know I hit Xaven for way more than 25K damage and healed the bane for anywhere between 20K and 40K+ a pop with each demon potion so I am at a loss at what I might be doing wrong. Xaven heals for over 7K when he does a heal and it happened lots of times, way more than 4.

Here's a save from outside the demon castle. If somebody could take a look at it and see if they can get through it, I would appreciate it. Latest version 45.5.
 

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Tried one more time to get through the boss fight in Hell to Pay last night and gave up after 137 turns and went to sleep. Left it sitting there running on the computer. Woke up this morning to try and finish it and the very next turn I beat Xaven and got me a demon slave. It was way difficult, with lots of death and reviving again, but I was able to get through it.
 

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I'm trying to get out of the Terra Cicatrix thing with the 6 minute time limit, and it's frustrating to the point that I'm close to quitting the game. Is there a way to turn off the battle animations so the fights don't take so damned long?
 

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I'm trying to get out of the Terra Cicatrix thing with the 6 minute time limit, and it's frustrating to the point that I'm close to quitting the game. Is there a way to turn off the battle animations so the fights don't take so damned long?
I had problems with that as well. I think you get an extra minute the first time you fail so that helps. I got to the save point and made a new save there and was able to get out that way, just trying to get through the last bit of the map to get back outside, with a bit of save scumming.
 
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I had problems with that as well. I think you get an extra minute the first time you fail so that helps. I got to the save point and made a new save there and was able to get out that way, just trying to get through the last bit of the map to get back outside, with a bit of save scumming.
OK, I eventually got out of the Terra Cicatrix within the timer, but it was tedious. Basically, I:

* Paused a lot to wait for the guard-spirit-things to get out of the way and zoom past them where possible. Most of the guards at narrow chokepoints eventually wander off if you wait.
* Said "damn the expenses" and just threw mass-damage spells every round of every encounter, then used red potions/mushrooms and healing magic after the fight. The esc-screen pauses the timer, so the idea was to shift battle maintenance from in-fight to after-fight. Without the timer I could have gotten through there without using potions, but....
* Actually made notes about how to transition each map piece so I ran an efficient path. I was making a lot of wrong turns; the wrong turns themselves did not take much time, but they lead to extra fights (the guards regenerate every time you change map screens).

Still took me a good hour, and I was a little bit overleveled. I'm sure a lot of people had no problems with this, but if it is kicking your butt try the above steps, they worked for me.
 
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Greetings all. 0.45.5 has dropped and you know what that means.
It means we all have to start over and get through all the old shit to have access to the new shit.
Rather than bitch and moan I'm going to do what I've already done a half dozen times before.
I've done it so much I have it refined to a science actually. So, with that in mind.

"You can play as this guy..."
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RC'S QUICK RESTART GUIDE.

So: your first mission's done. Therese is gone, Alina has been broken in, and you just acquired a Healbot.
Personnel isn't a problem, money is. So, let's get you ahead.

First things first, go to the bank in Northmarket and take out a 10,000 Sil loan.
You're going to get your hands into a lot, and by a lot I mean all, of HC's best cookie jars.
(Do NOT go to the Slums and start the Blacksmith quest or else the loan officer will be stuck in quest mode until you get all three payments - Actor, Elvo and Doll)

Still in Northmarket's Wealthy District invest in the following businesses.

Maisa Delle Dresses----N-----900 Sil-------+90-------10%
Gift Shop Recettear----N-----750 Sil------- +75-------10%
Little Flower Girl--------N-----50 Sil-------- +5 -------10%

From there cross the world map into the Northmarket Slum and invest in these businesses.
(DO NOT FUCK MELINE YET) Stop by the blacksmith to pick up his quest. You'll have to backtrack to the Wealthy District bank for the next phase but if you do you'll pick up Doll as your 3rd party member by the end of this investment run.

Bitch's 6th Tit/ Pink B--N----2,000 Sil-----+200------10%
Cunning Hat Shop------N-----750 Sil-------+75-------10%
Fresh Roast Sausage---N-----500 Sil-------+50-------10%
Cannery-----------------N-----600 Sil-------+12--------2% - 10%. IF you return to your mansion and go through your investment ledgers. Quickly ask Alina about investments and then meet with the foreman again and choose to pay the orphans less. If you're not that cruel (and I'm not) you may skip and pocket the money to payoff your debt faster. At 2% the Cannery is better than banking but with debt accruing at 5% and no quest rewards the cannery is best saved until your last round of investments.

After investing in the Pink Banana exit the building and quickly re-enter, now that the business has transformed talk to the owner who'll give you 6 appletinis.
You'll be turning one of these into the booze merchant quest. look for the wagon near cities on the world map, you'll be comped for each 2nd drink.
Before you leave town head on over to the tool shop and buy a shovel.
Shovel -50 Sil -> Ancient Coin (Westford Mine) -> Eastford Bank +600 = +550 net gain.


It's time to leave town and head on west. You'll be traveling the world map a lot but nothing bad should happen to you.
Except for maybe this: if you come across a battlefield filled with dead soldiers and butterflies don't sweat, you have the shovel so you wont miss the Obsidian Butterfly. If you're not playing easy mode and so haven't used the Dehydrated Orgasm to invest in the Seeker Stone you'll need to dig here.
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Once you've crossed the rivers dividing the westlands from Northmarket but before going south to Westcastle proper, drop by the mine along the northern mountains to dig up an ancient coin. If you're warned you've gone to far and are almost in Dwarven lands you're close.
Again, if you have no seeker Stone here's the dig location.
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Don't buy anything from the Bizarre Bazaar.

Once you have the coin on to Westcastle to invest in

A Stitch for a Dime------W----1,000 Sil------- +100------10%
Apple Kid-----------------W-----200 Sil -------- +36 ------18%

Once done you're backtracking to Southport, both the magic academy and the docks..

Agi's Fine Scrolls--------S-------1,200 Sil------ +120 -----10%
Dockside Fish Lady----S(D)-----400 Sil-------- +40------10%

Almost done. Head northeast to Lumberhill.

Right Foot Forward----OTHER---- 450 Sil-------- +45----- 10%


And now onto the next to last stop. Eastfort.
Sell the dug up Ancient Coin at the bank and complete the mission The Pusher's Lament.
Don't bribe the captain, blackmail him with his fanfic or else you won't have enough to invest in the Distant Farm. Don't bribe the janitor either.

Drug dealer---------------E---------472 Sil ------ +75 ------ 15.89%

Don't forget to pick up Doll at the slave pen house if you started the smithy quest, you now have 3 party members.

You're now backtracking to Northmarket to Penelope's farm. (don't forget to get the Dark Seed from the well)
Penelope's farm requires an investment of 800 sil and you should have 1228 Sil. 428 Sil isn't enough for the remaining Sil investments... but if you're feeling cruel and want satisfaction over Sil go ahead and invest in the Prosperous Farm just south of Northmarket before investing in Penelope's farm.
Penelope's farm triggers a sex scene and ends the day.

Prosperous Farm-------- OTHER---- 400 Sil------- +0 ------- 0% - +10 Satisfaction.
Distant Farm------------- OTHER---- 800 Sil-------+80--------10%

Total Starting Sil - 10,550. Sil Spent (10,072 / 10,472)

And so, with Penelope's loving embrace (and maybe a bit of arson) your first big day venturing into the world of cutthroat capitalism has reached its brutal end. All that without buying anything unnecessary, spoiling any quests or getting into a single fight.

You are now free to go back to the Slums and pick up Meline (and her extra 25 Sil / day), complete the Blacksmith quest, hire maids, bang the waitress dude at the Pink Banana, kill the orcs to get Florine and her shop, grind gift-giving for affection levels, start paying off your startup debt or anything else you want.

Remember the loan, but don't panic over it. Your debt accrues at a rate of 5% a day and almost all your investments pay dividends of 10%.
Meaning, even if you're not playing in easy mode you should be able to pay off the loan within a week, depending on your questing patterns.
If like me you were tempted to see what would happen if you don't pay it back allow me to spoil you:
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There are of course many other businesses to invest in but most of them are 5% returns, meaning they're not bad to have and they're certainly better than the 1% interest you'd accrue keeping the Sil in the bank but they're net neutral vs paying off the debt (i.e. other businesses won't get you out of debt faster for having invested in them).
The world is your oyster... at least so far as capital is concerned. I hope this helps.

EXTRA CREDIT:

SPIRITS & WINE
This quest is a bit of a odd duck because, while buying 2 drinks to sell to the merchant won't earn you a net benefit, in fact it often won't even recoup the money you invested buying the drinks, there is so much free booze from quests and in chests throughout the game that it's possible to turn in buying only 1 drink or even none at all. To access the quest you need to offer Holly an apple (-15 sil at Penelope's farm)
This is the easy list.
-Appletini - Pink Banana: After investing in the bar the owner will give you 6, 4 more than you need. Combined with a free +3 satisfaction day-ending homoerotic experience, the Pink Banana is truly (financially) the best investment in the game (Sorry Meline ). +90 Sil. Net gain +75. (-15 for the apple).
-Tin Dog Brew - Eastfort Barracks. Buy 2nd at Shally's for 50. Turn in for +75. Net gain +25.
-Brandi - Eastfort nonhuman district. Dig up spot about midway along the eastern wall. (behind top of three clustered buildings, below house with fence.)
Purchase a 2nd Brandy at Lumberhill's Inn for 150. Turn in for +225. Net gain +75.
-Cheap Wine - Buried City Exterior (Northern Volcano between Lumberhill and Northmarket)- Dig up near east tree.
Purchase 2nd at Crossroads Inn for 70. Turn in for +90. Net gain +20.

Total net gain: +195

YOU GET WHAT YOU GIVE
The casino south of Lumberhill is open and they want you to distribute flyers. The best part is, flyers can be safely placed in most city maps and you start earning sil on them for each flyer dropped off. So, since you're already getting familiar with the map (or if you want to make this your first move after getting your loan and starting the Blacksmith quest) feel free to backtrack and paper all the towns you've visted or are about to visit. +Sil varies per placed ad.
The following locales are immediately available to poster:

Northmarket Wealthy District- Item Shop Florine
Northmarket Slums - Pink banana Bar
Huntervale - Fur shop
Southport University Distrcit - East Dividing Wall
Southport Docks - Adventurer's Guild
Westcastle Outer District - Flat Earth Theater
Faith's Bastion - The outer wall.
Border Fort Kimochi River - Outer wall.
Border Fort Sorekore Mountains - Outer Wall.
Lumberhill - Inn
Crossroads inn - Inn
Eastfort Nonhuman Disctrict - Pub
Eastfort - Inn
Coastburg (Zombie City) - Inn (run like hell!)

With 5 flyers left over (Orc cave, Ducayne Merc Camp, Westcastle Noble District, Sunnyshore Island, Elf Village) you earn 105 Sil /day.
(Orc Cave becomes available immediately after Florine's rescue.)

(For fun, Added patrons in order: Granny, Bandit, Catgirl, Old Man, 1st door Guard, Orc, Student Girl, Nun, Male Trader + Roulette croupier, 2nd door Guard, Sailor, Scholar, Passed-out Drunk, Maid.)

GRINDING
With Felix and Doll you should have enough power to farm The Giants Path, killing bees, raccoons and bears, and completing Every Day I'm Smuggling.
There is a one time pile of 160 Sil in the top cave. The ogre cave has more gold piles of 220, 120, 210, 150 and 140. (1,000 total).
Animals drop Bear Skins and Raccoon Tails that can be turned into the Huntervale fur trader for 300 (average 4 for 1200) and 76 each (average 5 for 380).
Around +1580.

Innsbrooke (Fairy Village) - Low xp gains, the fairies drop mushrooms which wont benefit you until you get Florine. Do or skip at your leisure.

Total Starting Sil - 10,550. Sil Spent (10,072 / 10,472)
EXTRA CREDIT added Sil: 2775.

Unfortunately an extra 4 - 5,000 Sil isn't enough to invest in anything better than a bar or the maid cafe (Sons of Ducayne don't generate gold until late i game) at this point in time. On the other hand, 5,000 is more than enough to stock up on gifts to start your affection grinding (perfume for Alina, flowers for Penelope - buy these in bulk or else you may find you don't have Penelope's ideal gift for several days.

Re 5% vs Loan payback. There really is no better option until late in the game when Nicholas gives you a tax break, by which point Sil is mostly irrelevant, so the decision comes down to convenience. Do you hate revisiting the bank over and over again to min-max your pkcket change? Then just invest in a 5% business and know your money's working for you automatically. ? Regardless, as in real life paying off your loan early cuts down Sil lost to interest payments.

Thanks for reading and reach for those (151) Stars.
 
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Hi guys.

I wanted to know taht is possible to play with wasd not with the arrows key??

Thank you. =)
 
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