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quorkboy

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I thought this game is made to troll NTR. But, instead, this game is made to troll "harem" games. In-game sentence, "Lesbianism in harem is not NTR". How? I mean, if that is true, then sharing with other males, making MMF scenes is also not NTR right? I dare you to add MMF scenes in this game then?
Any and all consensual sharing is not NTR. Within the harem or not. If the MC consents to his harem members having sex with someone else, they did not cheat, so no NTR.
I doubt this game will go there, because many people are as anti-sharing (with other men) as they are anti-NTR. It seems when it's both a) lesbian relationships and b) within the harem, more people are okay with it.
 

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Any and all consensual sharing is not NTR. Within the harem or not. If the MC consents to his harem members having sex with someone else, they did not cheat, so no NTR.
I doubt this game will go there, because many people are as anti-sharing (with other men) as they are anti-NTR. It seems when it's both a) lesbian relationships and b) within the harem, more people are okay with it.
even when i dont mind sharing in harem (girlxgirl) i dont think that your point of if MC agree is right....final word have player who feel it this way not imaginar ppl in game.
 
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Any and all consensual sharing is not NTR. Within the harem or not. If the MC consents to his harem members having sex with someone else, they did not cheat, so no NTR.
I doubt this game will go there, because many people are as anti-sharing (with other men) as they are anti-NTR. It seems when it's both a) lesbian relationships and b) within the harem, more people are okay with it.
That's what i'm saying. So, even if MC shares women with other men in this game, it's not NTR too according to the game's lesbianism logic. It's just Polyamory or open relationship. If this is not going to add MMF, then it's just hypocrisy or trolling "harem" games in general by use of that "sentence" in this game.
 

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That's what i'm saying. So, even if MC shares women with other men in this game, it's not NTR too according to the game's lesbianism logic. It's just Polyamory or open relationship. If this is not going to add MMF, then it's just hypocrisy or trolling "harem" games in general by use of that "sentence" in this game.
Suuuuuuuuure, an anti-NTR game that doesn't include the MMF scene is hypocritical. :sneaky:

I'm sure we can argue about it like about the golden apple.
But the purpose of the scene in the game was not to set some general precedent. Eris has given us her perspective and we can better determine what to expect from the game in future.

Players who don't like lesbian sex, don't take it as an attack on your tastes. Think of it as information about game.
 

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even when i dont mind sharing in harem (girlxgirl) i dont think that your point of if MC agree is right....final word have player who feel it this way not imaginar ppl in game.
No. Word definitions have the final word. If consent is given, no NTR is possible. You play from the perspective of the MC. NTR is defined in that context. If the game has the MC consenting and does not offer the option of non-consent, then consent was given. You can't just disagree with what happens in the story and expect your opinion changes anything within the story. If you disagree with all options present in the story your only remaining option is not to play.
 

quorkboy

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That's what i'm saying. So, even if MC shares women with other men in this game, it's not NTR too according to the game's lesbianism logic. It's just Polyamory or open relationship. If this is not going to add MMF, then it's just hypocrisy or trolling "harem" games in general by use of that "sentence" in this game.
You're correct that it would not be NTR. But there's no hypocrisy if no other males have sex with any females. The game is not required to have all forms of consensual sex to have no NTR.

I'd resist taking this game seriously. It's so over the top deliberately ridiculous that any attempt to take it seriously will fail.
I expect that line was more to try stave off the inevitable "but it's NTR and you said no NTR" complaining I see all too often when consensual sharing occurs. Or just to be funny. I refer back to "don't take it seriously."
 

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I personally don't mind the girls do what they want with each other, I just want the MC to be the main LI for all the females. That being said the problem that all writers have is they write something they like and the player may not agree. We have seen it here with the MC saying he is wanting anal with Saki. Some people have came out and said no or make it an option. I hate NTR! 3/4's of the stuff that people on this site say "ntr" is not. But, I don't want to see another guy having sex period, even if it is not with a LI or possible LI. Love the game. Please keep up the good work and follow YOUR plans for the game. Devs that start trying to please everybody pleases nobody.
 
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I thought this game is made to troll NTR. But, instead, this game is made to troll "harem" games. In-game sentence, "Lesbianism in harem is not NTR". How? I mean, if that is true, then sharing with other males, making MMF scenes is also not NTR right? I dare you to add MMF scenes in this game then?

I don't know how many more games have to implement this "lesbianism" in harem games. Yeah yeah, now lesbian fans will come & spit their anger on me. But, i'm not saying lesbianism needs to be banned from harem games. But, i'm just saying it's becoming old & routine to watch this. Harem is perfectly possible without lesbianism. Atleast it should be optional. But, yeah, dev got all the rights & i'm just saying my opinion as I said the same in other harem game threads too. I just hope some upcoming new devs are reading my comments.
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I just think some people get a little too sensitive about girl on girl action. I don't think some of you necessarily like harems. In my mind there's nothing wrong with girls enjoying other girls as long as it's inside of the harem.
 

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Ah, yeah, that's a GPU from 2004, the new RenPy renderer just isn't supported by that device due to it's age. I can't do anything about it unfortunately.
After some investigating, turns out my main computer as well as my laptop no longer meet the requirements to play renpy v7.4.0+. My mothers computer as well as 3 at work do though.

So I was finally able to play the update and enjoyed it. Curious on how the training will go.
 

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I personally don't mind the girls do what they want with each other, I just want the MC to be the main LI for all the females. That being said the problem that all writers have is they write something they like and the player may not agree. We have seen it here with the MC saying he is wanting anal with Saki. Some people have came out and said no or make it an option. I hate NTR! 3/4's of the stuff that people on this site say "ntr" is not. But, I don't want to see another guy having sex period, even if it is not with a LI or possible LI. Love the game. Please keep up the good work and follow YOUR plans for the game. Devs that start trying to please everybody pleases nobody.
I just never thought there will be a time comes that i would have to criticize the emerging famous anti-ntr game, as a hardcore anti-ntr fan. I even put this game fansig for months (till now). I thought dev clearly know how the mind of a anti-ntr fan works out. But, it seems like i'm wrong & dev just wants to troll people that includes both anti-ntr & ntr. There are some very rare harem games with no lesbian touch or made it as optional. I like those games. I love harems. Big fan of it. But, I don't want to see lesbian action in those games. It's just like a girl in MMF action don't want to see any "gay" action. I seen many women in my real life like that. And the reason i'm stating my opinions & counter discussions is because i wish some new upcoming devs would see my comments & may think of creating "harem games" with no lesbian or make it optional. So, yeah, may be you all see me stating these same opinions in other game threads too.
 
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I find it funny it keeps throwing consent in your face but then for the lesbianism thrown in your face it takes the consent from the player and is just like this is how things are now. He is fighting going on and on how he will not cheat then we get 1 sentence without a talk that they will now be sleeping with each other too.
 
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Dragon59

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I partially agree with you, a harem in a strict sense is multiple "concubines" with one center person, the concubines may be cordial with each others and even live in the same household and helping each other but they don't share intimacy or feelings. When the "concubines" have sex with each other (with the knowledge and consent of the "center") the harem becomes a polyamourous relationship, it's not NTR because it stay inside the relationship and every one consent to it. Otherwise regardless of gender it becomes cheating and thus NTR.
Historically, the women in a harem were often known to be intimate with each other.

I've been polyamorous for 40 years, and that definition seems rather narrow in my experience. Some of my partners have been bisexual, some have been straight, and nearly all have had other boyfriends.
 
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Dragon59

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It's just like a girl in MMF action don't want to see any "gay" action. I seen many women in my real life like that. And the reason i'm stating my opinions & counter discussions is because i wish some new upcoming devs would see my comments & may think of creating "harem games" with no lesbian or make it optional. So, yeah, may be you all see me stating these same opinions in other game threads too.
I've known a number of (mostly bisexual) women who find male on male action to be quite hot. Your Maya May Vary.
 

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I've known a number of (mostly bisexual) women who find male on male action to be quite hot. Your Maya May Vary.
Shit, so true. My wife just won’t stop Nagging about it. We pretty much had to stop watching porn together because her obsession with it, and I think she’s not going to let it rest until I consent to be double teamed by a couple of hairy muscular dudes. If she at least got off on the idea of me banging a cute little twink I might’ve played along but nooo...
 
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