TheDevian

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There are 6 animations that i noticed this problem with.
One of them is when Kali gets aroused and slips you the "pill" , once mc starts f*cking her, animation is extremely fast. So fast that my eyes can't catch whats going on. I temporary slowed game down to 60fps via nvidia panel by forcing 60fps for that app , but thats kinda annoying to do. nvidia rtx 2080
From reading how renpy functions , i found out that it checks monitor refresh rate and then uses that to apply fps to the game if possible. That makes the problem. Animation is encoded for 60fps if fps is faster then video it produces triple the speed of animation
I have basically the same card, and don't have that problem, there must be something else causing it. Everything I see in Renpy is locked to 75FPS. Only time it was ever an issue was on a minigame in the game Bonerdale, made the last round nearly impossible for my crippled ass.

Your refresh rate and your FPS are NOT the same thing, and they really have nothing to do with one another, it shouldn't affect it. The FPS is how fast your card can throw the images out, the refresh rate is how fast the monitor shows new information. While they are similar in some ways, depending on how you think about it, and most things are better when both are faster, they are not connected. Your refresh rate should not affect your fps in any way, shape, or form. What the monitor can do, can't affect how fast the card is. That is like thinking that how fast you blink can affect how fast your car can go, you might not see it all, but it's still there.

I am not sure what the problem is, but I can say that it is not normal. I can't remember if we saw that issue before or not. You might want to check your drivers and codecs. You might also try another location, maybe even a slower drive (HDD not SSD). lol
Sorry I can't be more helpful here, I wish I could remember...

The only thing I can think of is to check your monitor settings, under screen resolution, if renpy doses somehow check and adjust to the refresh rate, a dumb thing for it to do, then maybe you can set it to something lower.
 

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I can see it on my machine too. If I go to the Kali lust animations, then it speeds up an down according to the system-wide refresh rate that I adjust in a parallel window. So basically the game only plays correctly on a 60 FPS setting.

I had that effect on other Ren'py games, too. It's a mixture of system settings, Ren'py features and game coding it appears. Basically, the game developer should be able to control it independently of system settings, however, most are not aware of this. Summertime Saga for instance has an issue with minigames being unplayable on higher refresh rates. I provide a mod for this game which fixes it programmatically, so I kind of know a little about this issue.
 
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I have basically the same card, and don't have that problem, there must be something else causing it. Everything I see in Renpy is locked to 75FPS. Only time it was ever an issue was on a minigame in the game Bonerdale, made the last round nearly impossible for my crippled ass.

Your refresh rate and your FPS are NOT the same thing, and they really have nothing to do with one another, it shouldn't affect it. The FPS is how fast your card can throw the images out, the refresh rate is how fast the monitor shows new information. While they are similar in some ways, depending on how you think about it, and most things are better when both are faster, they are not connected. Your refresh rate should not affect your fps in any way, shape, or form. What the monitor can do, can't affect how fast the card is. That is like thinking that how fast you blink can affect how fast your car can go, you might not see it all, but it's still there.

I am not sure what the problem is, but I can say that it is not normal. I can't remember if we saw that issue before or not. You might want to check your drivers and codecs. You might also try another location, maybe even a slower drive (HDD not SSD). lol
Sorry I can't be more helpful here, I wish I could remember...

The only thing I can think of is to check your monitor settings, under screen resolution, if renpy doses somehow check and adjust to the refresh rate, a dumb thing for it to do, then maybe you can set it to something lower.
Maybe because your monitor is 75hz? So renpy limits your game to 75fps. that isnt too much of a difference to 60fps. So hardly can difference be seen
But when its 144 like mine, animation becames really really fast.
have u tried turning off vsync for this exe ? It should give you idea what is happening, maybe?
I dont use vsync , just gsync
 
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Hey guys, I just started playing this game and I think I got addicted :D I'm lucky to get into it when so much content is already in, yet I am slowly getting to the end of "current release" so I have two questions.
1. Are the updates quite regular, or irregular and how long is the period between them?
2. I am playing on Android version. When new release comes out, is there any way to continue the game with my current saves, or will I be forced to play all over again?
 

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Updates are very regular, aprox every 3 months,then + a day or 3 for bug fix updates, + 1 week for compressed versions.
you current saves should work for the next version unless stated. so most likely they will work!.
At least they do on PC don't use android so not sure about that!.
 

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Hey guys, I just started playing this game and I think I got addicted :D I'm lucky to get into it when so much content is already in, yet I am slowly getting to the end of "current release" so I have two questions.
1. Are the updates quite regular, or irregular and how long is the period between them?
2. I am playing on Android version. When new release comes out, is there any way to continue the game with my current saves, or will I be forced to play all over again?
They seem irregular but that is because Runey takes care of us patreons, he asks people to not fuck over fellow patrons by leaking betas, and for the most part, people don't, so the releases are less than most games see, only because Runey wants people to see his best work, and while I love this game, it is a game and has some bad bugs in beta from time to time.
 

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So I haven't played since .10 Alpha, and i see its up to .10.2; while scrolling through the changelogs in .10 i see the formal release of .10 it says Added traits to each girl to signify when their story has been completed; is this like game finish or just up to this update completed?
 

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So I haven't played since .10 Alpha, and i see its up to .10.2; while scrolling through the changelogs in .10 i see the formal release of .10 it says Added traits to each girl to signify when their story has been completed; is this like game finish or just up to this update completed?
The game is far from complete. The note about a girl's story being "completed" just applies to completing everything up to the current version.
 
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How do I delete the save data?
What platform are you on?
If PC, delete the ./game/saves/*.save files from whatever folder you installed it in, then go to c:\Users\{your-user}\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\ and find the Harem Hotel folder, however it's named. You can delete that entire folder or just the *.save files within it.

If on Mac or Android, someone else will need to tell you as I don't know.
 

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What platform are you on?
If PC, delete the ./game/saves/*.save files from whatever folder you installed it in, then go to c:\Users\{your-user}\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\ and find the Harem Hotel folder, however it's named. You can delete that entire folder or just the *.save files within it.

If on Mac or Android, someone else will need to tell you as I don't know.
On non-android, you can also put your mouse over the save slot and hit the delete key, not sure about android, maybe if you click and hold on it? no idea.
Maybe because your monitor is 75hz? So renpy limits your game to 75fps. that isnt too much of a difference to 60fps. So hardly can difference be seen
But when its 144 like mine, animation becames really really fast.
have u tried turning off vsync for this exe ? It should give you idea what is happening, maybe?
I dont use vsync , just gsync
Still, it sounds like a problem with Ren'Py then, because again, megahertz and FPS are not the same thing. The only option I can think of is like I said, adjust the settings for your monitor in the windows settings.
Right click on the desktop, hit screen resolution, then click advanced settings, and go to the monitor tab. You can choose your refresh rate there.
 
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Still, it sounds like a problem with Ren'Py then, because again, megahertz and FPS are not the same thing. The only option I can think of is like I said, adjust the settings for your monitor in the windows settings.
Right click on the desktop, hit screen resolution, then click advanced settings, and go to the monitor tab. You can choose your refresh rate there.
It's not like there's a long history of software developers tying things to the refresh rate rather than using a proper timer or anything...
 

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It's not like there's a long history of software developers tying things to the refresh rate rather than using a proper timer or anything...
I have actually never heard of anyone tying anything to the monitor's refresh rate, the fps, sure, but the refresh rate? That is just insane. It has nothing to do with anything that matters.
 

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Well I'm not to sure how this works then?.
I play on PC using a 55 inch TV that's only 60hz, I've found i have to cap all my games fps at 60fps or else everything starts to look horrible.
Anything faster then 60fps and I have screen tear, stuttering and my controls feel sluggish.
I'm looking at upgrading my TV to a Samsung C9 around Xmas which has 120hz at 4k I have been told it can do 240hz at 1080p.
Not sure if its true buy its an upgrade to 60hz either way.
This should give me a smoother gaming experience at higher FPS, and less sluggish controls.
At least that's how it works from my experience, But then I've been told most people cant tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps, I know that's a Lie anything slower then 50fps and games are almost unplayable for me!.
At least on my PC.
 

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I have actually never heard of anyone tying anything to the monitor's refresh rate, the fps, sure, but the refresh rate? That is just insane. It has nothing to do with anything that matters.
Well it wouldn't be tied directly, but if it's dumping frames to the screen as fast as it can and this is synced to refresh rate by vsync, that's what I'd expect you to see. It's not a problem I've had myself because I went for picture quality over speed for my monitor.
 

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I have actually never heard of anyone tying anything to the monitor's refresh rate, the fps, sure, but the refresh rate? That is just insane. It has nothing to do with anything that matters.
Once upon a time, FPS was indeed tied to the refresh rate.
And it was a big deal, because of the various TV standards. PAL had a higher resolution at 25 Hz, and NTSC ran at 30 Hz. The same game would run 10% faster if you were in the US or Japan.
Even worse, most DOS games were tied to the CPU speed. (remember the ?)

That's how gaming was in the last millennium, kids!
 
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Once upon a time, FPS was indeed tied to the refresh rate.
And it was a big deal, because of the various TV standards. PAL had a higher resolution at 25 Hz, and NTSC ran at 30 Hz. The same game would run 10% faster if you were in the US or Japan.
Even worse, most DOS games were tied to the CPU speed. (remember the ?)

That's how gaming was in the last millennium, kids!
Dune on DOS in 1993 wasn't crippled like that. Everything ran fine - all it needed was a 386sx and a CD-ROM drive. I encountered no problems running it on a Cyrix 586 back in the day. It still works fine through DOSBox without needing to chop the cycles down.
 
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Rofl I remember putting a 133mhz frequency crystal into my 386dx/66 then trying to play Doom.
Game started fine but was so fast in game play it was impossible to play. (instant death from first imp)
Its when i started liking PC hardware and started experimenting.
That Pc was awesome, 200mb Hdd space, 16mb ram using a riser card, 8mb vesa video card when all others only had 2mb-4mb.
Granted it was a Franken PC, But i bought it for $100 spent another $140 on it and sold it for $500.
I used a few Vesa video cards for the extra memory chips and the ram stick from PC slavaged from the local dump lol.
Its what got me into PC's and then gaming.
I would never have found this site if not for that PC....
I miss those days!.
 
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