Runey

Harem Hotel
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May 17, 2018
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I can't say as that I'm a fan of Kali's college stuff, or some of Lin's late content. The game's take on in-setting politics started reasonable (slavery is bad and people are assholes to groups they view as inferior races/species, but fixing the problem is hard), and I don't think there's anything wrong with in-setting politics, it's a valid part of the story - my issue is just that it went REAL fast into blatantly real-world politics, and worse, bland one-dimensional moralizing where you have no options but to sit there and listen to a blackmailing piece of shit be 'right'.
I would like to know which parts you saw as real world politics in that event, or how these characters were one dimensional. They just showed up on screen. Vanessa for example is passionate about her cause, but to a fault. And she realizes this. This to me seems fairly two dimensional.

Seeing Runey facepalm anyone who doesn't slaver over their writing is highly unfortunate; it'd be one thing if DrFree was defending slavery or otherwise abhorrent ideas, but constructive criticism about a touchy subject they felt could be handled better isn't something to lock ranks and relentlessly attack and insult.
I have a feeling your criticism will be much more constructive than "Can someone tell me when Vanessa dies?". You seem to dislike the politics presented, I can assume Vanessa's dislike for Capitalism is one of them? She dislikes it because of how it's handled in Syl'anar, with monopolies and such.

Was an interesting game to try, had never heard about it beforehand and was pleasantly surprised overall with a few of the characters - I thought Maria and Felicity's character growth was done pretty well in particular, most of the others... struggled, and many of the characters had some really creepy implications about female consent and intellect that were a bit uncomfortable to see played straight, not to mention kind of ironic to contrast with the politics of other bits of the game. I certainly don't regret trying the game, but it's not something I'll revisit.
Thank you! But, um, do you care to explain what you mean by "creepy implications about female consent and intellect"? I've tried my best to make it a point that each girl consents to sex, and most of the girls in this game are college educated, very smart girls.
 

Kinky_One

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Jan 16, 2018
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Since we are on the topic of "constructive criticism", let me try saying a couple things about the game story. Particularlly how it handles the relationships.

If i'm being honest, i don't understand why half of those girls like the main character, outside of the fact that "well, it's a porn game". The progression of the relatinship is so fast at the start, and the main character so void of personality (so the player can project themselves) that i genuily don't understand what the girls see in him. It's one thing for Lin (your freaking slave) or Ashley (a girl starved for any kind of positive human interaction) or even Maria (a literal slut) to like you, but Kali is in a bit of weird spot. It feels like her "corruption" is too fast. I mean, before you even know she is asking you to bang her.

Also, another thing. Because every interaction in game has very clear cut "right answers" (those that either give you a scene or increase affection) it never felt to me that i'm "dating" those girls. It aways felt like i'm just manipulating them. Telling what they want to hear so i can bang them sooner. Because the game punishes you for not straight up lying and telling every girl how they are the best one and how you will marry them in particular. The story wants me to believe the main guy is this nice emotional support for all those girls, that he changes their lives for the better and make them more confortable with themselves. The gameplay, however, makes the player a manipulative bastard that will say anything to get laid.
 

Runey

Harem Hotel
Game Developer
May 17, 2018
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Since we are on the topic of "constructive criticism", let me try saying a couple things about the game story. Particularlly how it handles the relationships.

If i'm being honest, i don't understand why half of those girls like the main character, outside of the fact that "well, it's a porn game". The progression of the relatinship is so fast at the start, and the main character so void of personality (so the player can project themselves) that i genuily don't understand what the girls see in him. It's one thing for Lin (your freaking slave) or Ashley (a girl starved for any kind of positive human interaction) or even Maria (a literal slut) to like you, but Kali is in a bit of weird spot. It feels like her "corruption" is too fast. I mean, before you even know she is asking you to bang her.

Also, another thing. Because every interaction in game has very clear cut "right answers" (those that either give you a scene or increase affection) it never felt to me that i'm "dating" those girls. It aways felt like i'm just manipulating them. Telling what they want to hear so i can bang them sooner. Because the game punishes you for not straight up lying and telling every girl how they are the best one and how you will marry them in particular. The story wants me to believe the main guy is this nice emotional support for all those girls, that he changes their lives for the better and make them more confortable with themselves. The gameplay, however, makes the player a manipulative bastard that will say anything to get laid.
MC is meant to be a self insert, which comes with a bland personality. MC actually isn't meant to be the "Main Character" anyway, the girls are.

MC doesn't choose favorites in his harem. You likely will, but MC by nature can't since you're supposed to self insert. And in this world, he can marry all of them together.

I'll have to disagree that MC doesn't genuinely help the girls with their problems, but I'll respect your opinion. The recent event with Android comes to mind, he helped her socialize with humans and helped her keep going when she failed.
 

TheDevian

Svengali Productions
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Mar 8, 2018
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Not much he can do unless he wants his nudes leaked everywhere as he's tied up to a chair
Well, maybe with the boss, but there is the bartender and maybe others. One assumes they might have cameras too. I would be worried something might happen one night... XD

Did find one bug, I can still summon Emma to the dungeon while she is back at school.
 
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mojomoe

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For people who can't load their v0.10 saves in v0.11 due to "ImportError: No module named matrix", I was able to get it working by copying Harem_Hotel-v0.10.2\lib\windows-i686\Lib\renpy\display\matrix.pyd to the same location in the v0.11 install.
 

TheDevian

Svengali Productions
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Mar 8, 2018
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Future fantasy scenario: Wet T-Shirt contest at the bar started by drunk Sarah challenging Ellen on who's boobs are bigger, eventually leading to Emma, Kali, and even Autumn participating and netting the Bar an extra $250 in profits and a few hangovers for the Hotel residents! :LOL:
I still want an event where we plow Maria behind the bar while she is working, and see if she can still make drinks... :ROFLMAO:
Or a variation of the waitress one with a bit more of a wardrobe malfunction... :sneaky:
 

weiba

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Sep 30, 2017
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I have already written about this problem, but the solution has not been found. I lost the text in the game, as if it is not in the files, but some text is still present. Downloaded earlier version, there is no such problem. Is there any solution to this problem? Or nobody faced?
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I have this problem, I can not see the texts of any menu and I can not choose options, I do not get any text just when I talk to a girl, someone can give me a solution to this problem, thanks. I'm sorry for my English ;).
Same here, guys.
I have tried at least two different versions of the game and have the same issue. So I am pretty sure, that "re-downloading" once again will not help.
Possibly it is somehow connected to the Win 10 version I am using (its a Chinese-language one), maybe it is not fully compatible.
I have downloaded and added Cuprum and DejaVu fonts to the Win/fonts directory, it did not help. All the "Options" menu fonts, normal dialogue fonts and the optional questions are gone, but the questions in the lower bar to fill in the answer (like "your name / how will she call you") and tips are displayed correctly.
I looked through the discussion and did not find any useful tips (and, by the way, there is no "gui.rpy" such a file in the game catalog). I have tried to add the 'font addition' strings to the other random .rpy files, it did not help.
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All the other RenPy games are running perfectly fine.
Did anyone find a solution?
 

kage1822

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I just got to a scene that has me scratching my head... I went to the dungeon to find Lin there, after the short convo wound up putting the rope suit, blindfold, and ball gag on Lin.... you can't really talk with a ball gag, so how is Lin talking? she first asked "Master I cant see... then asked What are we going to do now...?

u can't exactly ask stuff like those while wearing a ball gag...lol

speaking of the dungeon... what does it take to have Felicity & Emma show up on the list of girls I can call to the dungeon?
 

Harem_Master

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I still want an event where we plow Maria behind the bar while she is working, and see if she can still make drinks... :ROFLMAO:
Or a variation of the waitress one with a bit more of a wardrobe malfunction... :sneaky:
Even better! reminds me of the drink 'Slow Comfortable Screw Against The Wall' from the movie "Doc Hollywood". (y)

Recipe:
 
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Cernunnos.

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Hoping to find a convenient well to push Vanessa into; few things are as annoying as ivory tower activists that ignore the people they 'champion'.

Honestly I'll just be ignoring any content with her in it going forward.
 
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Runey

Harem Hotel
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May 17, 2018
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I just got to a scene that has me scratching my head... I went to the dungeon to find Lin there, after the short convo wound up putting the rope suit, blindfold, and ball gag on Lin.... you can't really talk with a ball gag, so how is Lin talking? she first asked "Master I cant see... then asked What are we going to do now...?

u can't exactly ask stuff like those while wearing a ball gag...lol

speaking of the dungeon... what does it take to have Felicity & Emma show up on the list of girls I can call to the dungeon?
Don't the game that seriously.

Hoping to find a convenient well to push Vanessa into; few things are as annoying as ivory tower activists that ignore the people they 'champion'.
Oh, she doesn't ignore the people she champions. I wanted to make Vanessa different in that way. Sort of break the stereotype, you know? She wont be as pissy in v0.12, once she knows your not the bad person she assumed you were.
 

TheDevian

Svengali Productions
Game Developer
Mar 8, 2018
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I just got to a scene that has me scratching my head... I went to the dungeon to find Lin there, after the short convo wound up putting the rope suit, blindfold, and ball gag on Lin.... you can't really talk with a ball gag, so how is Lin talking? she first asked "Master I cant see... then asked What are we going to do now...?

u can't exactly ask stuff like those while wearing a ball gag...lol

speaking of the dungeon... what does it take to have Felicity & Emma show up on the list of girls I can call to the dungeon?
Same way they talk with your cock in their mouth. :ROFLMAO:
 
Oct 15, 2017
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Is their any solution for this error when loading a save? If not then please tell me so I can stop asking.

While running game code:
File "game/AON_sensitive_FIX.rpy", line 39, in FIXevent
rv = self.child.event(ev, x, y, st)
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 452, in __call__
renpy.load(fn)
ImportError: No module named matrix
 
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