ankhtar

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My fever brain might be misremembering but I recall Runey saying this is an adult visual novel with sandbox-like elements and the occasional porn sprinkled in. Also people seem to continue to misunderstand what the game is about, even though it has been harped on continuously over the course of many of the previous pages.
 

Runey

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1- For heaven's sake add the option for avoiding girls we don't like... This is sandbox game not some kinetic novel and events being tied to other girl's story progress along with lewd stuff and you are literally forced to do them makes zero sense. There should be an option for avoiding doing things with them, normally I would say there should be an option to say them leave the hotel but I know you not gonna do that much hard job, so I'm even ok with progressing their levels with a choice of being friendly with them, acting rude against them (Like being rude against Ashley because of acting bitch to other girls, slapping them etc) and not doing lewd stuff, etc. Especially Ashley is just a pain in the ass. She is egoist, rude, bossy, annoying, and crazy AF. Its just makes my blood boil to see she is treating other girls like a shit and constantly saying MC is his boyfriend and acting like she owns him... And hypocritically MC saying her mom he will let her stay for free?! Seriously?! Why do I have zero right about this subject as a player?!
Harem Hotel is what I would consider a Visual Novel, it certainly has sandbox elements, but it is primarily a Visual Novel.

I do want to add the feature of making every sex scene optional. Possibly in v0.16

Events being tied to other's actually makes a lot of sense and is sometimes a requirement to make sense for those who care about the story.

It also sounds like you want to make entire characters optional, which is very hard to do and still have the story making sense. But I am also considering some sort of skip event feature.

Umm... I'm not sure how any of what you said is hypocritical, but I understand you don't like Ashley and would prefer to skip her content. That is noted. I'd like to improve in this area.


2- Nearly all girls are based on lust, even love routes feel like lust routes with little changes and that makes things boring. You gotta add some girls or change some girl's more romance-based paths so it could give better diversity.
This really confuses me, I'm not sure what you're asking for. Are you saying you want all the girls to be based on lust? Does that mean you want a route where you fuck them and nothing else? Harem Hotel is a visual novel, and I'm not interested in adding sex only routes. And I'm just lost at what the girl's romance based paths are and how making them sexual would be more diverse.

3- Even after 3-4 year of development there is still some girls/women who have literally zero content like Ellen, so you should maybe add more content for them?
Ellen literally has 6 events, you can see this in the stats page.

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As per your review, I'm sorry you think Lin is plain and ugly. I have no plans to ever change her.
It seems like you prefer women with big tits, and this seems to be a big source of your dislike of the game. Specifically that you're forced to interact with characters you don't prefer. Making more things optional is still something I would like to add.

All "extreme sex" is definitely optional, only vanilla stuff is currently not. Unless you count face sitting and cunnilingus as extreme forms of sex? Either way, I would like to make all sex optional for sure.

Again, Ellen definitely has content. 6 events. You can check how many she has in the stats menu. I'm guessing you're just trying to say you want more content from her?

You mentioned Lust and Love Routes again in your review, but I'm still lost on what you mean. No girl's route is based on lust at all, and only two of the side characters even have routes you can choose. If you're talking about just Nia and Sylvia, the love route is about their story, the slave route is there for those who just want to treat them as sex slaves. Those routes are very different from each other.

The game's quality has been improved quite a lot since the game first released, but it sounds like you're looking for PS5 level graphics. That is not something I will be able to provide, I'm just an indie dev.

MC is a self insert.
 

RandyPhoenix

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This really confuses me, I'm not sure what you're asking for. Are you saying you want all the girls to be based on lust? Does that mean you want a route where you fuck them and nothing else? Harem Hotel is a visual novel, and I'm not interested in adding sex only routes. And I'm just lost at what the girl's romance based paths are and how making them sexual would be more diverse.
I'm not sure how you understand my comment complete opposite but... No... I'm not asking more sex... I'm saying nearly all girls based on lust content even ones with so called love paths.


Ellen literally has 6 events, you can see this in the stats page.
Yeah... 6 event... While a lot of character have maybe 3-6x more than her... Thats not someting i do call well-made content deploy.

And thanks for taking consideration other things i told, wish you luck with development of game.
 

Runey

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I'm not sure how you understand my comment complete opposite but... No... I'm not asking more sex... I'm saying nearly all girls based on lust content even ones with so called love paths.
I'm still lost at what you mean by "all girls based on lust content". The core of these characters aren't sex. And only two characters have love route options.

Probably a translation issue.

Yeah... 6 event... While a lot of character have maybe 3-6x more than her... Thats not someting i do call well-made content deploy.

And thanks for taking consideration other things i told, wish you luck with development of game.
Ellen is a side character, she doesn't have that much importance in the overarching story. She's not going to get character arcs where you delve deep into her past or anything like that. I take you only think it's not well made content deployment because this is one of your favorite characters? I don't imagine you saying it's bad content deployment on a character you dislike.
 
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Ellen is a side character, she doesn't have that much importance in the overarching story. She's not going to get character arcs where you delve deep into her past or anything like that. I take you only think it's not well made content deployment because this is one of your favorite characters? I don't imagine you saying it's bad content deployment on a character you dislike.
She is not one of my favorites, but it could be interesting to have a few info drops with her in passing once in a while. Even if not a proper flashback, have her mention things like 'your grandfather used to do this' or 'I always enjoyed when we would do...' etc.
 

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I think you should improve the loitering content, (which I like) especially adding variety to how they greet you based on stats and what they're wearing.
Reduce the frequency of the washroom hall loiter, or fix them, they're lower quality.
Add some loitering to the bedroom hallways and the springs. These wouldn't need an animation.
I don't like the ropes as a standard option, mainly because its so silly. These things probably take 15 minutes to put on, and they just stand around in them? They would make more sense as a rare and random event.
I would like a topless version of one outfit, for each character. The bottom would be something relatively conservative, like the maid outfit for Kali, bicycle shorts for Maria, normal jeans or yoga pants for Ashley, a loincloth for Android, a long dress skirt and dress shoes for the twins, a black nuns skirt and barefoot for Autumn, and for Lin, not sure? some kind of leafy skirt that doesn't cover the panties
 
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Loon74

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While I agree with some points, you do realize Ashley went through some pretty fucked up shit to get to where she was at the start of the game, right? I'm not saying this excuses her, at all (I REALLY fucking hate that kind of justification for shit behavior), but it does explain it. And she gets a LOT better as a person when she realizes not everyone is her enemy. Before she literally felt like it was her against the world but as her arc progresses it becomes clear she's actually a really nice caring girl with a horrible fear of rejection and being alone again.

While I agree that taking a sterner approach to her could be cool, that kind of thing would basically be an entire path of character development that would have to be written out and it would change her entire character so you'd essentially have Ashley 1 and Ashley 2. Like the love-route / slave-route for the elves, except, you know, she's a main character so that's a fuckton of work.
Oddly enough I find Ashley one of the more understandable characters. Admittedly, I have a certificate proving my sanity (it's written in crayon but it counts!) and have been around others with similar "quirky behaviour" so that arc makes most sense to me. Overcompensating when feeling threatened, latching on to those that offer any form of support? All sounds very familiar. A person can only take so much abuse before their first response to even a sideways look ends up as "go for the throat". Or any other vulnerable bits you can actually reach...

I just did a quick run through in my head of how many story points that would need to be changed for a dual path - I can see quite a few so I can appreciate why Runey hasn't done so as then you have the renders to add in as well. Yes, I map out decision trees in my head. It's the only way I can get timelines right. Curse this meatspace limitation of 3D only!

As per your review, I'm sorry you think Lin is plain and ugly. I have no plans to ever change her.
It seems like you prefer women with big tits, and this seems to be a big source of your dislike of the game. Specifically that you're forced to interact with characters you don't prefer. Making more things optional is still something I would like to add.
My immediate thought on reading what you responded to was "Heresy!" as Lin is adorable as is. While I can appreciate a nice handful I dislike the prevalence of humungous gazongas in most creations of this ilk. Not that I'm a member of the itty bitty titty comittee but there's nowt wrong with variety :)
 

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Runey i need help my man. When is lins event with cornwall and the other masters specifically and also if you buy jin and/or the sanctuary will it mess up her events? Even with the mod it only tells me lvl 30 event location boat day 2 after jin came over to help train lin once. I am confused.
 
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Runey i need help my man. When is lins event with cornwall and the other masters specifically and also if you buy jin and/or the sanctuary will it mess up her events? Even with the mod it only tells me lvl 30 event location boat day 2 after jin came over to help train lin once. I am confused.
Um ...what?
I think this needs to start getting uploaded to a torrent, i'd say 10gb is about the limit for http. :giggle::coffee:
There has been a torrent version for the last several updates. Or, you could get a downloader, and save a lot of trouble.
 

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Runey i need help my man. When is lins event with cornwall and the other masters specifically and also if you buy jin and/or the sanctuary will it mess up her events? Even with the mod it only tells me lvl 30 event location boat day 2 after jin came over to help train lin once. I am confused.
Since you've received the letter you have to tell Ellen you're ready, that's the trigger iirc. You don't have to buy Jin early on iirc but you have to buy the 2nd floor, bar, slaves and sanctuary or you'll get stuck at some point.
 
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Runey

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Runey i need help my man. When is lins event with cornwall and the other masters specifically and also if you buy jin and/or the sanctuary will it mess up her events? Even with the mod it only tells me lvl 30 event location boat day 2 after jin came over to help train lin once. I am confused.
We have a wiki which should be able to help.
 

Mathesar

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Oddly enough I find Ashley one of the more understandable characters. Admittedly, I have a certificate proving my sanity (it's written in crayon but it counts!) and have been around others with similar "quirky behaviour" so that arc makes most sense to me. Overcompensating when feeling threatened, latching on to those that offer any form of support? All sounds very familiar. A person can only take so much abuse before their first response to even a sideways look ends up as "go for the throat". Or any other vulnerable bits you can actually reach...
At first I didn't like her, because crazy, but as her story progressed I realized that I had almost become her. Some of those flashbacks hit really close to home. My parents didn't really get it and their advice wasn't useful, but they tried. If they didn't, I probably would have wound up just like Ashley.
 

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Not sure why my save from 14.1 would cause anything for 15.1. I had no errors on 14.1 with the mod installed for 14.1, which I even completed all the story and had to stop playing until a new update came around. I don't know how to read those trackback error message. What can you tell me that mat be causing the errors for each one?
Though I've barely played any of the 0.15/0.15.1 release due to some many of the games I mod got released close to each other, of what little I have played of 0.15.1 was the slightly rare issue/error:
Exception: Could not find return label
of which I figure out the best thing to do since my save was in the Lobby was to immediately go to the Bar instead of letting the game continue letting me know girl x's story is complete.

So maybe jump back to the 0.14.1 release (with my mod from that version of the game) and do a save in the Lobby,
jump over to the 0.15.1 release (with the latest version of my mod that I updated last week to),
immediately jump to the Bar then continue the game and see if that helps.

If that doesn't work then send me your save and I'll take a look.
 
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Ashley needs more spankings by the MC, problem solved lol.

I like Ashley, I found her personality at the beginning funny and could immediately tell she was compensating for a shitty past.
Maybe because I had grew up in a just as shitty but different situation that she didn't bother me, though I still would have bent her over my knee and made those ass cheeks nice and red when she got to my limit. Of course then I would have plowed those rosey red cheeks with my dick, hehe.
 

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I got an immediate traceback error venturing into the unchartered 0.15.1 territory but it seems a rollback sorted it out, for now anyway. :)
 
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camus32

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As per your review, I'm sorry you think Lin is plain and ugly. I have no plans to ever change her.

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Thank goodness! Lin is adorable! I find it curious that anyone would disagree with that, but I guess to each their own.

I'm the ultimate lurker - I read threads all the time and never post. But I just have to say this game so exceeded my expectations. I downloaded it thinking it would likely be an entertaining diversion but it really is a work of art. The scene in the clocktower was breathtaking. It was beautiful and did such great work on Ashley's character development. Speaking of character development - the twins completely surprised me. I started off thinking I would spend as little time with them as I could, but now I completely adore them. The scene where Felicity asks to be taken to the dungeon is one of my favorites. Perhaps most of all - when you persuade Maria that her parents loved her.... I wasn't crying. It was allergies, I swear.

Amazing work, Runey, and I admire your storytelling and your talent for character development
 
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