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Ive-11

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please, anyone can share with ver 13.2 cuz i wanna make/match the walkthrough mod from lain,
i also apreciate if link up to mega make it seperated , please :giggle:
 

freedom.call

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How do I fix the shop error? I used the 13.2-14.1 compressed update and thought it would fix the shop, does downloading the whole 14.1 compressed file fix the problem? I can't access the shop or anything for that matter on the computer in your room
I've never had a problem with the shop using the regular download, it's already compressed down to 8+Gb. Assuming your compressed 13.2 didn't work it's fair to assume adding the compressed patch won't fix it.
 
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More generally, I'm one of the many, many people who are inherently suspicious of, and usually dislike, sandboxes. But why do people hate sandboxes? Because of the endless and frustrating hunting around for the one event hidden among 21 possible locations. Even now, most devs — even sophisticated and experienced devs...like, say, NLT — do a remarkably poor job of gesturing and hinting, viz "go there tomorrow afternoon" or "Janet's at the store right now." Whereas in this game, with the exception of very early days, there's always something to do, and most of it is consequential (stat-building or a sex/BDSM scene). There are non-consequential scenes as well, but dropping by the pizza place to say hi to Kali is far, far better than clicking on the pizza place on a city map and finding it empty. After the story itself, it's my absolute favorite feature of this particular game.
I do both. I can't seem to help myself; I HAVE to play as the content is released here, but I do my main plays once I can buy the full release.

Agreed 100%. In general I am not a fan of heavy sandbox elements, mainly because they are just so poorly implemented. I'm not criticizing anyone, I know I can't do better, but I do tend to lose interest very quickly because (for me) they just kill the flow of the story.
Definitely not the case here. I think Runey has struck the perfect balance.
 
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jamz20

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I'm sure I am late with this but I recently started playing and oh boy, this has to be the deepest, well thought out game I have played in a long time. It has moved me to write this and express my appreciation for this gem.

Ashley went from my least favorite character to top of my list. She is Luna DeLuca without the physical attributes. Such a deep force of nature. Can't wait for more of her story.
 
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Saves with mods applied to them will forever require the mod to be updated alongside the game. At least, the mod you installed works like this. I recommend starting a new save without modding it so this doesn't happen again.
ok thx for the answer, i was "attached" to my old saves but atleast restarting the game will freshen up my memory :)
 
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I *really* hope that, as part of her character development, Ashley gets a boob job in the near future (since bigger boobs are something she said she wanted, in the first hours of the game); as it is, her character comes across of a nubile minor and that really creeps me up... although I can understand it is a great fetish for some.
 

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To be honest, i am just here for more Kate update.

i know all the other girls are amazing,but i need more K-point.

anyone with me?
 
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Huh? What? No.
That was your argument. That a lack of events in (for instance) the laundry room is part of what forces players to spread their interest around.

Events (sexual or otherwise) in otherwise unused locales won't affect gameplay at all. The only thing that allows players to focus are un-integrated paths, and HH doesn't have those. You have to advance everyone. Being able to watch Maria masturbate in the hot springs (logical) rather than the vestibule (illogical) doesn't have any effect on my interest in Autumn.
 

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That was your argument. That a lack of events in (for instance) the laundry room is part of what forces players to spread their interest around.

Events (sexual or otherwise) in otherwise unused locales won't affect gameplay at all. The only thing that allows players to focus are un-integrated paths, and HH doesn't have those. You have to advance everyone. Being able to watch Maria masturbate in the hot springs (logical) rather than the vestibule (illogical) doesn't have any effect on my interest in Autumn.
Your last post didn't make a lot of sense, no offense, something about Maria and Ashley in the laundry room? I think I got the gist, but that was mostly from the context of your other posts.

The paths are 'un-integrated' enough that people come in here whining about when they finally do get stuck at some point pretty frequently, so some encouragement is clearly needed for some people...

I agree with you that it would be nice to get more events in some of the mostly unused locations, but I don't see the game 'suffering' because of the lack of them. If you have suggestions for such events, Runey is almost always willing to listen, as long as said event isn't something that goes against something he had in mind, or just doesn't work for him (or is pro-Juliet, lol).

My best advice is to make a list of ideas for things like that that you would want to see (like the Maria masturbating one), and not only give Runey some ideas, you might spark a productive discussion.
 
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It doesn't make sense, I agree, but it's not me who doesn't make sense. This is an arbitrary mechanic. Which is fine, as tons of games have them and they usually work well, as they do here. But it's not logical, it's just arbitrary.

There aren't events in the laundry room because it only existed for the (three) events that required it. It's otherwise useless. Why are the hot springs there? To host the...15 or so?...events that happen there. But actual hot springs would be populated nonstop. As would the bar. As would the garden.

Love of Magic has an alley. It's used twice: once in a crucial early-game scene, and once later. The rest of the time it's just there. Let's not even talk about the offices, which are used once in a compelled scene and then never again. That's true for the laundry room in HH, and mostly true for the garden (which I expect won't be true in the future) and the hot springs. This is a flaw in sandbox games. Not a fatal one, but a flaw. If you're giving me a location, use it.

Does the inability to have a scene in the garden encourage me to spread my affections around, which was Runey's defense of the mechanic? I truly can't see why. I spread my affections around because it's a harem game and I want the harem. Not because I was cockblocked while trying to dry my whites.
 
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