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There is no problem with breaking the law, since police officers are the ones breaking it first anyways.
Well, IRL the problem lies that they have much more resources than a single person or a group of persons. So, asuming that this is the same in HH, then...

Also first thing someone, I say intelligent, would do in the whole situation is read the rules. MC is new here, so he don't know the special rules of Syl'anair (I think). After he is trown into the ride with Lin and the others, why not find out, what the rules are and how you can bend them, avoid them and use them for your own advantage?
 

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Shit just happens without any reaction to the situation. No upgrades for self defence, no guards, no escape routes.
I should capture\interrogate my enemies and keep them imprisoned in the dungeon. I need some place to train my army and store guns. This hotel becomes a battlezone instead of harem. There is no problem with breaking the law, since police officers are the ones breaking it first anyways.
Just stop for one minute and think.

The MC is just one guy running a small hotel outside a city.
Look at the inhabitants of the hotel: 6 elves, one girl in university, her sister, three girls in a local college, a half-elf who has no rights, an AI and the receptionist. What army are you raising from them?

Capture and interrogate enemies? False imprisonment and possible torture. Forget the cops, forget the government, I'm sure the local population would love that that guy for a neighbour!

Storing weapons? Ruby Ridge siege, Waco siege, Rainbow Farm siege to name but 3 examples in our world.

Your idea only ends one way, most of the cast probably dead or in prison and all of them written off as some sort of crazed sex cult. Nothing changes.
 
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Your idea only ends one way, most of the cast probably dead or in prison and all of them written off as some sort of crazed sex cult. Nothing changes.
If you keep going as it is - your property will be taken by criminals, and you will end up in prizon for selling drugs or covering rebels. Bad ending either way. I prefer to fight instead of giving up everything I worked for.
 

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If you keep going as it is - your property will be taken by criminals, and you will end up in prizon for selling drugs or covering rebels. Bad ending either way. I prefer to fight instead of giving up everything I worked for.
You have not been paying attention.
Android has been working on a way to bring all of the androids together and make them like her, and so that she can communicate with them in cyber space.
She has Kali to help her.
Android has already demonstrated an ability to take control of other androids.
Kali now works at her fathers company that builds those androids.
Kali has already successfully hacked a military android and taken control of it.
The governments army uses android troops. They would be hardened against emp weapons.
The police also use androids. They would be hardened against emp weapons.
There are many privately owned androids.
That will be your army, along with any friends or allies, that you along with Nia can pull together when the time is right.
And your allies will be those groups that you have interacted with along the way.
The elves living on the island. The queen has been watching what you have been doing, so she will see what you are doing.
The elves living off the grid in hiding. Nia's friends and allies.
The elves that now have that military android that Kali hacked.
Along with any others that they may have contact with.
 
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You have not been paying attention.
Android has been working on a way to bring all of the androids together and make them like her, and so that she can communicate with them in cyber space.
She has Kali to help her.
Android has already demonstrated an ability to take control of other androids.
Kali now works at her fathers company that builds those androids.
Kali has already successfully hacked a military android and taken control of it.
The governments army uses android troops. They would be hardened against emp weapons.
The police also use androids. They would be hardened against emp weapons.
There are many privately owned androids.
That will be your army, along with any friends or allies, that you along with Nia can pull together when the time is right.
And your allies will be those groups that you have interacted with along the way.
The elves living on the island. The queen has been watching what you have been doing, so she will see what you are doing.
The elves living off the grid in hiding. Nia's friends and allies.
The elves that now have that military android that Kali hacked.
Along with any others that they may have contact with.
Sorry, you lost me at the point where you mentioned Kail.:sneaky::LOL:
 
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dude can i keep this render in my pictures folder ... Pleaseeeeee :love:
Was some fan art from discord, feel free. Here is the other with the same meme.
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Well, IRL the problem lies that they have much more resources than a single person or a group of persons. So, asuming that this is the same in HH, then...

Also first thing someone, I say intelligent, would do in the whole situation is read the rules. MC is new here, so he don't know the special rules of Syl'anair (I think). After he is trown into the ride with Lin and the others, why not find out, what the rules are and how you can bend them, avoid them and use them for your own advantage?
Also, those were not real cops, or something like that. No badges or something, IIRC, they could have just stolen some uniforms. If they WERE real cops, they were not on duty, and did NOT want to be identified by their precinct with their names and badge numbers. Those were sent by F&E's dad.
 

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The elves living on the island. The queen has been watching what you have been doing, so she will see what you are doing.
Minor side-jack but I don't think that's true anymore. Our fairies took out that one that discovered Slyvia was still alive, so there's a good chance if more come they're gone too unless it was in numbers. What intel the queen was getting on the hotel has to have diminished greatly once the source of her power was discovered to not actually be hers(it was her command over the fairies).

I'm a bit forgetful on her so maybe I'm forgetting something, but I don't think she'll help unless she thinks she's getting something out of it. She didn't strike me as an altruist like Nia - she wants her power, she wants her servants and she wants to be able to show that off to anyone in an effort to keep it. It was one of the reasons she wanted information on weapons.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if some fairies start to abandon her once they discover they can be free like the hotel's fairies are. That would be an added benefit to the cause considering virtually no one knows they exist. While it isn't a 1:1 comparison, the fairies own struggles don't seem entirely different than the Elves struggles vs humans. They serve and attempt to garner favor with a person who holds their lives literally in her hand - there's little reason to believe that all of them want to be there.

The hotel's fairies bailed on her to save a friend and scratching post house.

Also, those were not real cops, or something like that. No badges or something, IIRC, they could have just stolen some uniforms. If they WERE real cops, they were not on duty, and did NOT want to be identified by their precinct with their names and badge numbers. Those were sent by F&E's dad.
I always assumed they were just crooked cops, but I don't think it's been clarified in the story.
 

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Was some fan art from discord, feel free. Here is the other with the same meme.
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Also, those were not real cops, or something like that. No badges or something, IIRC, they could have just stolen some uniforms. If they WERE real cops, they were not on duty, and did NOT want to be identified by their precinct with their names and badge numbers. Those were sent by F&E's dad.
thank you :)
 
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Minor side-jack but I don't think that's true anymore. Our fairies took out that one that discovered Slyvia was still alive, so there's a good chance if more come they're gone too unless it was in numbers. What intel the queen was getting on the hotel has to have diminished greatly once the source of her power was discovered to not actually be hers(it was her command over the fairies).

I'm a bit forgetful on her so maybe I'm forgetting something, but I don't think she'll help unless she thinks she's getting something out of it. She didn't strike me as an altruist like Nia - she wants her power, she wants her servants and she wants to be able to show that off to anyone in an effort to keep it. It was one of the reasons she wanted information on weapons.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if some fairies start to abandon her once they discover they can be free like the hotel's fairies are. That would be an added benefit to the cause considering virtually no one knows they exist. While it isn't a 1:1 comparison, the fairies own struggles don't seem entirely different than the Elves struggles vs humans. They serve and attempt to garner favor with a person who holds their lives literally in her hand - there's little reason to believe that all of them want to be there.

The hotel's fairies bailed on her to save a friend and scratching post house.
Also, Android can see them as well, and now that she knows what to look for, she is more likely to do something about it. IIRC, she just thought they were bugs before.
I always assumed they were just crooked cops, but I don't think it's been clarified in the story.
No, we don't know for sure, they might be crooked or fake, either way, they are connected to the rest of the stuff in F&E's story, the gangs, their dad, the drugs, braking bad, etc.
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Also, Android can see them as well, and now that she knows what to look for, she is more likely to do something about it. IIRC, she just thought they were bugs before.
It's a huge blow to the Queen's influence over the MC in that regards. Simply knowing they exist is an extremely huge knock on her power. Runey could write it so strategy discussions aren't in a public room / Android+Fairies do a "sweep for bugs" and who knows what else. While she could still attack using the fairies, she runs risks of losing fairies which would reduce her overall power. We don't know how vast the fairy population is but considering they seem to predominantly live on the Island, they can't be a super force otherwise the Queen would already be using them as one and wouldn't be looking to use "human" weapons as an alternative.

Saving the elves for the world wouldn't be enough for the Queen, as she'll want to be their leader. I'm sure some would go for the chance to live with other elves, but once they realize they basically traded a human heel for an elven one, eventually word would get out. Queen gains little by helping the MC if she can't remain in power or has some insane level personality shift.

I'm not sure what Runey's plans are for her, but I always kinda took her for basically a power hungry idiot. She'll do what she can to keep power, but long term she'll likely be a self-fulfilling prophecy who causes her own downfall.
 
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It's a huge blow to the Queen's influence over the MC in that regards. Simply knowing they exist is an extremely huge knock on her power. Runey could write it so strategy discussions aren't in a public room / Android+Fairies do a "sweep for bugs" and who knows what else. While she could still attack using the fairies, she runs risks of losing fairies which would reduce her overall power. We don't know how vast the fairy population is but considering they seem to predominantly live on the Island, they can't be a super force otherwise the Queen would already be using them as one and wouldn't be looking to use "human" weapons as an alternative.

Saving the elves for the world wouldn't be enough for the Queen, as she'll want to be their leader. I'm sure some would go for the chance to live with other elves, but once they realize they basically traded a human heel for an elven one, eventually word would get out. Queen gains little by helping the MC if she can't remain in power or has some insane level personality shift.

I'm not sure what Runey's plans are for her, but I always kinda took her for basically a power hungry idiot. She'll do what she can to keep power, but long term she'll likely be a self-fulfilling prophecy who causes her own downfall.
And if we do something to get more infrared sensors/visors/etc. like using the bots, leaking to the military to use their goggles, they lose most of their effectiveness. Without their invisibility advantage, they are not going to be too useful in a battle. We have flamethrowers and shit, after all.

I agree, the HE queen will need to be deposed or convinced that her survival is at stake. She is still pretty full of herself, and thinks she has an advantage, but she has no idea what she is up against (we kept it vague on purpose). If she goes against us, her losses would be immeasurable, androids/robots equipped with Infrared/UV and flame throwers would just devastate her forces, elf and fairy alike (not to mention their homes and the surrounding forest).

I always assumed we would depose her, take over (or have her replaced with someone we trust), and the only power she would have would be if she tries to resist cumming or gets a spanking. :sneaky:
 
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I always assumed we would depose her, take over (or have her replaced with someone we trust), and the only power she would have would be if she tries to resist cumming or gets a spanking. :sneaky:
Even though it kinda goes against the narrative, she was the perfect candidate for slave training under the MC. Not my preferred body type, but likely to be a wasted asset at this point since I see zero chance in her being a love interest.
 
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Whether the queen gained anything or not, would depend on her actions.
Under the right circumstances, the elves there could simply replace that queen with Sylvia.
She is of royal blood.
She would be on good terms with the new leader of the human population in Syl'anar and far more likely to get them the peace and freedom that they desire.
 
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Whether the queen gained anything or not, would depend on her actions.
Under the right circumstances, the elves there could simply replace that queen with Sylvia.
She is of royal blood.
She would be on good terms with the new leader of the human population in Syl'anar and far more likely to get them the peace and freedom that they desire.
Definitely. We'd have to make the fairies public to the elven population first though to basically neutralize her power over populace - we don't currently know if the fairies want to remain hidden or not on the island do we? The fairies stand to lose a huge advantage over... well everyone, if they're exposed. So we'd likely need to curry favor with them in that event. Once that's done, Queen is basically done. Either turns over a new leaf or is replaced (which I'm in favor of, doesn't deserve a redemption arc)
 
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Definitely. We'd have to make the fairies public to the elven population first though to basically neutralize her power over populace - we don't currently know if the fairies want to remain hidden or not on the island do we? The fairies stand to lose a huge advantage over... well everyone, if they're exposed. So we'd likely need to curry favor with them in that event. Once that's done, Queen is basically done. Either turns over a new leaf or is replaced (which I'm in favor of, doesn't deserve a redemption arc)
Might not need to expose them publicly, but rather get the friendly ones to subvert the others by telling them that they would have a better future by siding with, and supporting the MC and giving their support to Sylvia.
Once the queen loses their support she is screwed, and not in a good way.

Keeping public knowledge of them out of the question, will give the MC and the others great intel of what the government is doing.
 
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Might not need to expose them publicly, but rather get the friendly ones to subvert the others by telling them that they would have a better future by siding with, and supporting the MC and giving their support to Sylvia.
Once the queen loses their support she is screwed, and not in a good way.

Keeping public knowledge of them out of the question, will give the MC and the others great intel of what the government is doing.

True but I don't see the hotel fairies leaving to do that, they put themselves into great risk being isolated and potentially surrounded by enemies and one is already not at full strength. Ideally we need some to peacefully visit, leaving "unsure" and starting rumors or something so that it spreads on it's own - keeping ours safe from harm and having the same cause/effect reaction.

Or maybe that one fairy that wants MC's dick finally finds a way and temptation just brings the rest over. MC's greatest power is getting laid, that's gotta help somehow, right?
 
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Or maybe that one fairy that wants MC's dick finally finds a way and temptation just brings the rest over. MC's greatest power is getting laid, that's gotta help somehow, right?
Well, the character Belle in the game LLTP solved that problem by wrapping her arms and legs around the MC's dick and grinding on it.
Fun was had by both parties, with a messy, sticky conclusion.
I have been kind of hoping to see that happen here too.
It is a viable alternative.
And I am sure that the android would enjoy watching that too.

Android watching cameras: Hey, what is going on with MC?
Android: Zooms in for a better look.
Android seeing what is happening: uuuum, now that is kinky....
Android: Presses record button.
 
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Whether the queen gained anything or not, would depend on her actions.
Under the right circumstances, the elves there could simply replace that queen with Sylvia.
She is of royal blood.
She would be on good terms with the new leader of the human population in Syl'anar and far more likely to get them the peace and freedom that they desire.
Except that by then, Sylvia won't be able to live without the manager's dick, so will have to rule from the harem. XD
True but I don't see the hotel fairies leaving to do that, they put themselves into great risk being isolated and potentially surrounded by enemies and one is already not at full strength. Ideally we need some to peacefully visit, leaving "unsure" and starting rumors or something so that it spreads on it's own - keeping ours safe from harm and having the same cause/effect reaction.

Or maybe that one fairy that wants MC's dick finally finds a way and temptation just brings the rest over. MC's greatest power is getting laid, that's gotta help somehow, right?
The best way would be to capture the next fairy who comes calling, rather than popping her, and trying and start recruiting that way.
 
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