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I am going through some of the redone Exhibition scenes, and I found something that I think could be a continuity error of sorts with the first time you ask Lin to take off her clothes in the cafe:

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morpheusahrms

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@ the uploader (seriously, HOW can I @ link THAT handle? lol) : Nopy link for Win/Linux throws a 404, would it be possible to reup it there? Thanks!
 
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What do i do about this? Happens when I try to load a save. Also, how do I delete all saves?

This is a fresh install but still shows old saves. I wanna delete them and start completely over.
 

Deleted member 929426

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What do i do about this? Happens when I try to load a save. Also, how do I delete all saves?

This is a fresh install but still shows old saves. I wanna delete them and start completely over.
If you're on PC, the saves can be found at something like "C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\Harem Hotel-1520575859" (it may be slightly different if you're using another OS, but I'm not sure what that is). Just go ahead and delete that folder, and you should be good to go. (Just remember to also delete any saves in the game's "Save" folder as well just to be sure.)
 
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Parcel

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Lets not go full "Everything is political" please. Just because a story's setting has x, doesn't mean everything around it is about x.
Right now about half of the plotlines revolve around slavery, but at its beginning stages, only Lin was related to the subject. Otherwise it was only a background issue.
Kali's story was all about her distant relationship with her family, and its only recently that the focus was set on the slavery issue.
So no, just because there was slavery in the beginnings doesn't mean that it was a political story. The politics came on much later, when Runey started to expand the lore, with Cornwall and Sylvia's story.
It's true that the game has become more overtly and pervasively political than it was at the start, but the issues/politics have been there from the beginning.

Kim's existence is forgettable at best, and it won't even stop her at all: Vanessa fucking blackmails Kali into being lectured, otherwise she will ruin her chances of a social life in this college, and NOBODY tells her anything about this being wrong. Not Kim nor Nala (therefore approving of her behavior).
I feel like it's worth pointing out that Nala wasn't around for that, and wasn't really made aware of it once we met her.

How the fuck did MC not intervene when his girlfriend is being threatened? Oh right, he is a "good guy" that will get blackmailed into being lectured.
I agree that Vanessa's demand was unreasonable, at least given what the player knows about MC and Kali. But what should MC have done?

I guess Kali, MC or Kim could have said something, even if it wouldn't have changed how things played out. I felt like it was already clear (given her yelling earlier) that Vanessa was being far too belligerent. I don't feel like the absence of one line pushing back at Vanessa really would have changed the tone of the theme.

I forgot the standards for "good guys" according to the author. Just sit down and get "eDuCaTeD"
You insist on projecting stuff onto Runey that he just doesn't believe. It's not a good look.

And she doesn't get called out for any of this. Its just tiresome to keep repeating this. I will address it yet again below.

Then that lies on how the characters (or how they were written) don't react to the scene (her behavior) at all.
"She makes herself look bad" works only on a meta level. If nobody calls her out in the scene, it just looks like every character approves of her behavior, and therefore it just looks like the author wanted this character's behavior to be approved of.

This is my problem, not the character herself, but how the scene she is in was written.

Again, I didn't complain about her in the previous update.
There are all sorts of ways for media to convey a message, and not all of them involve a character explicitly voicing the message. If you want a character in the story to tell you "The moral of the story is X", that's fine, but it's unreasonable to get mad when that doesn't happen. Reading subtext is a pretty essential skill for analyzing media, and I don't feel like you applied it to this scene.

Anyway, I think I'm done with this conversation. It's not going anywhere. Feel free to respond to this message, since there's no reason I should have the last word just because I'm dropping the conversation.
 
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Is their any solution for this error when loading a save?

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/AON_sensitive_FIX.rpy", line 39, in FIXevent
rv = self.child.event(ev, x, y, st)
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 452, in __call__
renpy.load(fn)
ImportError: No module named matrix
 
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If you're on PC, the saves can be found at something like "C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\Harem Hotel-1520575859" (it may be slightly different if you're using another OS, but I'm not sure what that is). Just go ahead and delete that folder, and you should be good to go. (Just remember to also delete any saves in the game's "Save" folder as well just to be sure.)
Thank You Kindly, Good Sir. There was no saves in the folder as it was a fresh install. I was just baffled because the old saves from the prior install were appearing.
 

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I really do love this game, I thought it was just gonna be all hentai and no real story but it there are some points that hit pretty good. And thank you all for the hard work you did bringing it here.
 

Cryswar

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I can't say as that I'm a fan of Kali's college stuff, or some of Lin's late content. The game's take on in-setting politics started reasonable (slavery is bad and people are assholes to groups they view as inferior races/species, but fixing the problem is hard), and I don't think there's anything wrong with in-setting politics, it's a valid part of the story - my issue is just that it went REAL fast into blatantly real-world politics, and worse, bland one-dimensional moralizing where you have no options but to sit there and listen to a blackmailing piece of shit be 'right'.

Seeing Runey facepalm anyone who doesn't slaver over their writing is highly unfortunate; it'd be one thing if DrFree was defending slavery or otherwise abhorrent ideas, but constructive criticism about a touchy subject they felt could be handled better isn't something to lock ranks and relentlessly attack and insult.

Was an interesting game to try, had never heard about it beforehand and was pleasantly surprised overall with a few of the characters - I thought Maria and Felicity's character growth was done pretty well in particular, most of the others... struggled, and many of the characters had some really creepy implications about female consent and intellect that were a bit uncomfortable to see played straight, not to mention kind of ironic to contrast with the politics of other bits of the game. I certainly don't regret trying the game, but it's not something I'll revisit.
 

Harem_Master

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So, this Vanessa girl and the other two dumb asses with her. We do get to give them the smack upside the head with a crowbar that they rightly deserve correct?
The downside to college girls: "Activist Hippie Protestors". Just go away and let me eat my whale steak on my rare redwood table using my elephant ivory utensils in my baby seal fur coat! (;))
 

Runey

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I can't say as that I'm a fan of Kali's college stuff, or some of Lin's late content. The game's take on in-setting politics started reasonable (slavery is bad and people are assholes to groups they view as inferior races/species, but fixing the problem is hard), and I don't think there's anything wrong with in-setting politics, it's a valid part of the story - my issue is just that it went REAL fast into blatantly real-world politics, and worse, bland one-dimensional moralizing where you have no options but to sit there and listen to a blackmailing piece of shit be 'right'.
I would like to know which parts you saw as real world politics in that event, or how these characters were one dimensional. They just showed up on screen. Vanessa for example is passionate about her cause, but to a fault. And she realizes this. This to me seems fairly two dimensional.

Seeing Runey facepalm anyone who doesn't slaver over their writing is highly unfortunate; it'd be one thing if DrFree was defending slavery or otherwise abhorrent ideas, but constructive criticism about a touchy subject they felt could be handled better isn't something to lock ranks and relentlessly attack and insult.
I have a feeling your criticism will be much more constructive than "Can someone tell me when Vanessa dies?". You seem to dislike the politics presented, I can assume Vanessa's dislike for Capitalism is one of them? She dislikes it because of how it's handled in Syl'anar, with monopolies and such.

Was an interesting game to try, had never heard about it beforehand and was pleasantly surprised overall with a few of the characters - I thought Maria and Felicity's character growth was done pretty well in particular, most of the others... struggled, and many of the characters had some really creepy implications about female consent and intellect that were a bit uncomfortable to see played straight, not to mention kind of ironic to contrast with the politics of other bits of the game. I certainly don't regret trying the game, but it's not something I'll revisit.
Thank you! But, um, do you care to explain what you mean by "creepy implications about female consent and intellect"? I've tried my best to make it a point that each girl consents to sex, and most of the girls in this game are college educated, very smart girls.
 

Kinky_One

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Since we are on the topic of "constructive criticism", let me try saying a couple things about the game story. Particularlly how it handles the relationships.

If i'm being honest, i don't understand why half of those girls like the main character, outside of the fact that "well, it's a porn game". The progression of the relatinship is so fast at the start, and the main character so void of personality (so the player can project themselves) that i genuily don't understand what the girls see in him. It's one thing for Lin (your freaking slave) or Ashley (a girl starved for any kind of positive human interaction) or even Maria (a literal slut) to like you, but Kali is in a bit of weird spot. It feels like her "corruption" is too fast. I mean, before you even know she is asking you to bang her.

Also, another thing. Because every interaction in game has very clear cut "right answers" (those that either give you a scene or increase affection) it never felt to me that i'm "dating" those girls. It aways felt like i'm just manipulating them. Telling what they want to hear so i can bang them sooner. Because the game punishes you for not straight up lying and telling every girl how they are the best one and how you will marry them in particular. The story wants me to believe the main guy is this nice emotional support for all those girls, that he changes their lives for the better and make them more confortable with themselves. The gameplay, however, makes the player a manipulative bastard that will say anything to get laid.
 

Runey

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Since we are on the topic of "constructive criticism", let me try saying a couple things about the game story. Particularlly how it handles the relationships.

If i'm being honest, i don't understand why half of those girls like the main character, outside of the fact that "well, it's a porn game". The progression of the relatinship is so fast at the start, and the main character so void of personality (so the player can project themselves) that i genuily don't understand what the girls see in him. It's one thing for Lin (your freaking slave) or Ashley (a girl starved for any kind of positive human interaction) or even Maria (a literal slut) to like you, but Kali is in a bit of weird spot. It feels like her "corruption" is too fast. I mean, before you even know she is asking you to bang her.

Also, another thing. Because every interaction in game has very clear cut "right answers" (those that either give you a scene or increase affection) it never felt to me that i'm "dating" those girls. It aways felt like i'm just manipulating them. Telling what they want to hear so i can bang them sooner. Because the game punishes you for not straight up lying and telling every girl how they are the best one and how you will marry them in particular. The story wants me to believe the main guy is this nice emotional support for all those girls, that he changes their lives for the better and make them more confortable with themselves. The gameplay, however, makes the player a manipulative bastard that will say anything to get laid.
MC is meant to be a self insert, which comes with a bland personality. MC actually isn't meant to be the "Main Character" anyway, the girls are.

MC doesn't choose favorites in his harem. You likely will, but MC by nature can't since you're supposed to self insert. And in this world, he can marry all of them together.

I'll have to disagree that MC doesn't genuinely help the girls with their problems, but I'll respect your opinion. The recent event with Android comes to mind, he helped her socialize with humans and helped her keep going when she failed.
 

TheDevian

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Not much he can do unless he wants his nudes leaked everywhere as he's tied up to a chair
Well, maybe with the boss, but there is the bartender and maybe others. One assumes they might have cameras too. I would be worried something might happen one night... XD

Did find one bug, I can still summon Emma to the dungeon while she is back at school.
 
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