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It doesn't just dull other things, it can outright blind a person if it is strong enough at any given moment and a blind rage can be deadly, mostly for the other people involved, but possibly for the angry one as well.
As someone that has had (and still occasionally has) anger issues irl, I can 100% confirm this statement.

I didn't see any reason, either, so I did not, but I intended to yell at Cornwall anyway, so I'm not sure I would do anything differently given the option.
I have plans on doing more than yelling (if the story lets me anyway) but as I mentioned above, I don't think we are in a secure enough position to openly make him an enemy yet.
Think about it; he technically has the power to legally walk in and remove all of the elves from the MC's possession. Never mind anything he has the power & resources to do illegally.
We are just not prepared for that....yet.
 
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if you want to know who is and is not a half-elf it is simple is even in the game Runey gave you clues when talking to Kali's stepmom she tells you how to tell if someone has elf in them she tells you about eye color and it is even pointed out by Ashley
 

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As someone that has had (and still occasionally has) anger issues irl, I can 100% confirm this statement.



I have plans on doing more than yelling (if the story lets me anyway) but as I mentioned above, I don't think we are in a secure enough position to openly make him an enemy yet.
Think about it; he technically has the power to legally walk in and remove all of the elves from the MC's possession. Never mind anything he has the power & resources to do illegally.
We are just not prepared for that....yet.
Not quite yet, we need a financially powerful ally that could fund our efforts and we should gain the support of some of the town, a significant portion, but not necessarily a majority, so that our own assets are protected against seizure. The last thing Cornwall wants is the opposition of the town because then he loses his power.
 
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You and me both. Saw the Changelog said bug fixes, wasn't bugging, so didn't bother downloading it.....I'll have to check my saves and see if I still have one from before that. If not, I guess it will be a full play-through with the new release.

Personally I think making Cornwall an enemy at this point is not a smart idea....no way we are ready to stand against him (openly).
I do wish I had the chance to go down swinging at the hospital though. I know it would have been a losing battle from the start, but it would have been worth the bail and/or jail time to knock-out at least one of those pricks.
Right? Go up against some dudes instead of robots. Would have felt less like a bitch leaving the hospital, hell even share a (minor) experience with Maria by being in jail.
 
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if you want to know who is and is not a half-elf it is simple is even in the game Runey gave you clues when talking to Kali's stepmom she tells you how to tell if someone has elf in them she tells you about eye color and it is even pointed out by Ashley
Even then, it's not that simple. You can only tell if they have elvish DNA in them by the color of their eyes, but not if they're a half elf. That is determined by the ear shape. Ashley has purple eyes, but she's not a half elf (which is more obvious with her skin tone) same with Ellen
 

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Hi everyone,

I was wondering... do the stars in each attribute on characters make any difference? Does it change dialogue or something?
Thanks!
 

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If the victim wants to survive,
But why would they want to survive? That's my point. The victim in this scenario is already dead. Their life is completely and utterly ruined. Everything and everyone they love is taken away. Their very identity is erased as the victim is turned into a piece of meat to be sold. There is absolutely no reason for the victim to want and live past that point. Death is preferable as it at least mitigates your loss by making sure they loose as well.
 

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I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but how compatible are the save games of each versions with each other? Have an old 10.1? and would like to update, can I just copy the saves over to the newer version?
 

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I'm sorry if this has been asked before,
Not really or do you have searched the thread before?:geek:
but how compatible are the save games of each versions with each other?
I can't answer about the "how" part as I doon't have insight in the code, but they are compatible. Yet I can't and I would believe the others can't either guarantee that the saves are to 100% compatible without any bugs. Yet from my personnel experience with this game I haven't had an issue (yet - not counting pre versions, betas or alphas).
Have an old 10.1?
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and would like to update, can I just copy the saves over to the newer version?
For Windows you don't need to. The saves are in two folders, your local game folder and in the %appdata%. So you need only to start a new game and load a save. For Android, Linux or Mac I can't say.
 
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Squall99

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Thank you. :)
Only searched through a few pages and saw there's a Patches section and that didn't really answer this. I was mainly wondering if i can just overwrite everything with the new version, or need to download it in a separate directory and copy saves over. (On Windows btw).
 

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But why would they want to survive? That's my point. The victim in this scenario is already dead. Their life is completely and utterly ruined. Everything and everyone they love is taken away. Their very identity is erased as the victim is turned into a piece of meat to be sold. There is absolutely no reason for the victim to want and live past that point. Death is preferable as it at least mitigates your loss by making sure they loose as well.
So that they can continue to live once they find a way out. The captive dying isn't a total loss for the slavers, it's only a financial loss, but it does succeed in bringing -1 to the elf population, which is just as good in the big picture to them because that's one less 'inferior being' to keep track of and take care of. There is nothing to gain by dying in captivity and everything to lose, but it is very much the reverse by trying to survive until either being rescued or finding your own way out. Again, this is being taken from Maria's perspective and she does have friends who would do anything and everything to get her back. She WOULD have been rescued even if things didn't go down as easily as they did through buying her off the market the second she was on sale. Especially with someone as radical as Nia around, she probably would haave blasted her way in if all else failed. You might ask what Maria has to lose in this case and the answer is everything. She loses her life, her friends, people who have essentially become her family. She has a ton of reasons to keep surviving outside the walls of wherever she was held captive and no reason to believe she would never get out again.
 

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So that they can continue to live once they find a way out.
What way out? You do realize that the vast majority of individuals don't have the magical plot armor that is being friendly to the games main character? They ain't getting out. Their life is over. If getting out of slavery was even remotely common than the whole system wouldn't work to begin with.

And that's the point I am making here. For the absolute supermajority of individuals the only thing a calm, polite and sensible approach would do is give them time to react and either try to run, defend them self or do something else to try and desperately claw their way out of the situation or die trying. And from the perspective of the captors that's a liability at worst and an annoyance at best.

That is why the response the hospital had is actually quite reasonable. They want to overwhelm the victim with rapid concentrated force so as to ensure it newer gets the chance to do react.

Now it's horrific to look at and experience to be sure. But it makes sense from their perspective.
 

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I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but how compatible are the save games of each versions with each other? Have an old 10.1? and would like to update, can I just copy the saves over to the newer version?
The saves from the older versions do not always work, especially now that the older parts have been reworked.
Thank you. :)
Only searched through a few pages and saw there's a Patches section and that didn't really answer this. I was mainly wondering if i can just overwrite everything with the new version, or need to download it in a separate directory and copy saves over. (On Windows btw).
No, never overwrite the game folder. Extract it to a new folder, then copy over your screenshots, saves, and whatnot. Then you can safely delete the old one.
 
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What way out? You do realize that the vast majority of individuals don't have the magical plot armor that is being friendly to the games main character? They ain't getting out. Their life is over. If getting out of slavery was even remotely common than the whole system wouldn't work to begin with.

And that's the point I am making here. For the absolute supermajority of individuals the only thing a calm, polite and sensible approach would do is give them time to react and either try to run, defend them self or do something else to try and desperately claw their way out of the situation or die trying. And from the perspective of the captors that's a liability at worst and an annoyance at best.

That is why the response the hospital had is actually quite reasonable. They want to overwhelm the victim with rapid concentrated force so as to ensure it newer gets the chance to do react.

Now it's horrific to look at and experience to be sure. But it makes sense from their perspective.
You skipped over the part where Maria has people on the outside that would do anything and everything, including violent action on Nia's part, to get her out. She would get out, the only real question is how that would happen, whether it was all out war or diplomacy. This isn't about most people, again, I am taking this specifically from Maria's point of view because she was the one held. There is no majority or supermajority involved, it is one very specific individual.

The response the hospital had is in no way reasonable because, again, they risked damaging their prize and wasting the effort. If she then ends up getting no buyers specifically because the overkill response injured her beyond any recognizable value, she is then useless to them and she might as well have been treated as if she were human in the first place. It would get them the same value with less effort and less expense.
 
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No, never overwrite the game folder. Extract it to a new folder, then copy over your screenshots, saves, and whatnot. Then you can safely delete the old one.
With one distinction if a patch made for the game to put it from version A to B and even then you must need to know more than for the "standard" method. Other than that, as TheDevian have written, never do that.
 
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With one distinction if a patch made for the game to put it from version A to B and even then you must need more than for the "standard" method. Other than that, as TheDevian have written never do that.
Hehe, yeah, exceptions to every rule. lol
 

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Thank you. :)
Only searched through a few pages and saw there's a Patches section and that didn't really answer this. I was mainly wondering if i can just overwrite everything with the new version, or need to download it in a separate directory and copy saves over. (On Windows btw).
Never overwrite anything, that's how saves are broken. Simply download, install, launch, and load your save.
 
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