Lord Ashram

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Harem Hotel has no grinding in it. This is by design and from the feedback I have gotten, I reduce it everywhere I can, and the majority of feedback I get it is "I have too much money, give me more things to spend it on." Any grinding is purely optional, like if you for some reason wanted every outfit by day 30. Harem Hotel has passive income galore.
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what grinding? :LOL: if anything I need MORE grinding, and more stuff to buy (especially in the dungeon) to train all girls into perfection
By grinding I mean having to do minor things or just skip time to get through some of the weeks to get paid by the bar to have the money to do certain tasks or pay back money loaned if you don't use some type of money cheat.

I do look forward to doing more with the girls in the dungeon.
 

TheDevian

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I'm not as negative about it as I seem to make it sound, but it blocks the story from progressing and that's the problem I have with it. Make more cosmetics and add-ons to buy with it, great. But don't leave me grinding just to try and complete the story. That's bad design, in my opinion.
It gives you time to work on the other girls, and just have fun with them. You are not supposed to focus on just one person.

There are a handful of story events that cost money, and several of them are kind of expensive if you are not 'rich', but most are later on and they are not all required, like I did not have to spend a few thousand in a recent Ashley event, but I did anyway.

My only issue is that I would like events like that to tell you before you start them, so you can plan for it. Not start them until you are ready. Can't remember if he said he was going to do that or not...
One idea that could make money management more engaging (and realistic), could be that of letting the MC go into debt if he mess up, and Trenero could back it up only through advertisement. This way, more clients would flock to the bar, but that would mean the MC should employ one or more girls as staff, and their profitability would vary depending on how well they have been trained and are in love with the MC.
I thought that was an option, at least once... I remember something with Ellen about a debt forgiveness or something... Never had money issues, so I have no idea how it works though.
 

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I thought that was an option, at least once... I remember something with Ellen about a debt forgiveness or something... Never had money issues, so I have no idea how it works though.
I went into debt to pay for android's new body. We lived on bread and water for almost 3 months. Dark times indeed.
 
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People I have a problem I don't know if it's a bug, when I go to talk to Maria after giving her the succubu suit she sends me directly to the outside door but apart from that nothing else happens.... what can I do?
 

TheDevian

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People I have a problem I don't know if it's a bug, when I go to talk to Maria after giving her the succubu suit she sends me directly to the outside door but apart from that nothing else happens.... what can I do?
Work on Android's story...
 
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Lord Ashram

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My only issue is that I would like events like that to tell you before you start them, so you can plan for it. Not start them until you are ready. Can't remember if he said he was going to do that or not...
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I added that to the Walkthrough/Cheat Mod when I took over Lain's Mod.

Edit:
I thought I had a pic showing that in the images I put in the Mod Post but I don't have a pic to show you.
 

TheDevian

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I added that to the Walkthrough/Cheat Mod when I took over Lain's Mod.

Edit:
I thought I had a pic showing that in the images I put in the Mod Post but I don't have a pic to show you.
Thanks, but I don't mod ren'py games any more. Generally cause more issues than they solve. "If it ain't broke..." I love mods and modding in general, but usually avoid it for these games.

I can only think of one game I would want one for, and it would require an artist to recreate old sprites.
 
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Uthuriel

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Thanks, but I don't mod ren'py games any more. Generally cause more issues than they solve. "If it ain't broke..." I love mods and modding in general, but usually avoid it for these games.

I can only think of one game I would want one for, and it would require an artist to recreate old sprites.
What makes Lains original work so great though is that it isn't just a WT mod. It adds many new scenes and functions.
That's why I'm grateful that Lord Ashram is working on it. A great piece of software would otherwise be lost.
 
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TheDevian

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What makes Lains original work so great though is that it isn't just a WT mod. It adds many new scenes and functions.
That's why I'm grateful that Lord Ashram is working on it. A great piece of software would otherwise be lost.
More scenes would be nice, but I don't want to risk it. When the game is done, then I can see it, but in the meantime, the down sides are not worth it to me. I have never needed a walkthrough for this game, and I suppose that I usually only hear about the mods when people are complaining about what they broke, so I admit to being a bit jaded about them these days.
 

Uthuriel

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More scenes would be nice, but I don't want to risk it. When the game is done, then I can see it, but in the meantime, the down sides are not worth it to me. I have never needed a walkthrough for this game, and I suppose that I usually only hear about the mods when people are complaining about what they broke, so I admit to being a bit jaded about them these days.
I can respect that.

About the people complaining about mod problems... well 99% of the userbase is too stupid to even find the /game folder so no surprise there...
 

TheDevian

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I can respect that.

About the people complaining about mod problems... well 99% of the userbase is too stupid to even find the /game folder so no surprise there...
Most of the complaints relate to saves being locked to the mod, at least the ones here. There are other games I follow, where the mods break shit all the time, but that is usually with Unity games, not Ren'Py.
Some new quality of life features.

Black outlines around menu options, money, day number. (And this menu shows where you currently are so it always remains the same)
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Exit confirmation menu has been updated
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Pause menu updates
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Ooooooo.... Pretty purple... XD
 

c3p0

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I can respect that.

About the people complaining about mod problems... well 99% of the userbase is too stupid to even find the /game folder so no surprise there...
Most of the complaints relate to saves being locked to the mod, at least the ones here.
Or the complain mod version x don't work wit game version y, yet mod version x wasn't made for game version y.

But this is the life here along with the usual other frequent post like "save", "walkthrough", "update"...
 
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Bingoogus

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Most of the complaints relate to saves being locked to the mod, at least the ones here.
Does this mean when v0.15 drops i'll have to wait for Ashram to update his mod before i can play since my save is from a modded version? If that's the case, is he going to be able to just release a quick continuation mod whilst he works on the full update or is that not possible even if planned?
 

Lord Ashram

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Thanks, but I don't mod ren'py games any more. Generally cause more issues than they solve. "If it ain't broke..." I love mods and modding in general, but usually avoid it for these games.

I can only think of one game I would want one for, and it would require an artist to recreate old sprites.
I get what you are saying and my mods are not a 5 second mod job. I work very hard to ensure they do not break the games. Some of the mods I have even worked with the dev of those games for various reasons including helping fix issues in their games. If an issue comes up, I am pretty quick to fix it as I make these mods for myself so it would ruin the gaming experience if the mod broke anything as I do play through all the games I mod which is also the reason why my mods sometimes take a day or longer to get released after the game gets updated.

For this game I even went one step further and changed Lain's Money Cheat because her Money Cheat would give you $99,999 so I changed it so that you start with $6,000 and give you the ability to cheat for more money but it is a random amount of $50, $100 or $250 and then tease you about what you had to do to get that money. I did that to help balance the game more so that you don't have immediate access to everything you can buy but also so that you can play the game at a little bit of a faster pace with hints to focus using most of that money to build up the bar asap.

I also brought back the ability to spank Lin that Runey (temporarily??) took out.
 
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