TheDevian

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Well in Lin's story (I think) it said he only had 2 registered elves that's why I was asking
Hard to say, depends on when and all that. Could be a flag bug.

Minor thing, the plural of elf is elves.
 

danb35

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How do you only have 2 registered elfs
I asked about the same thing up-thread. All the elves in the hotel are legally bought and registered except for the one they liberated at the auction (but including Maria, whom they don't see with the drone), and Hana, whom they also don't see (and nobody would know on casual observation that she's a half-elf). Granted they're under MC's grandfather's license (because he doesn't have one), but they're all registered. I think it's a gap in the writing personally.
 

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I asked about the same thing up-thread. All the elves in the hotel are legally bought and registered except for the one they liberated at the auction (but including Maria, whom they don't see with the drone), and Hana, whom they also don't see (and nobody would know on casual observation that she's a half-elf). Granted they're under MC's grandfather's license (because he doesn't have one), but they're all registered. I think it's a gap in the writing personally.
Per Wiki:
Upon being rescued, Cira is allowed to move into The Sanctuary alongside the other refugee elves. She is the only one that Manager does not have official, documented ownership of, thus far.
I've never understood the registered elf line. My first thought was it was referring to half-elves, but even then it doesn't make much sense. Either the Ascendents know something we don't, they're horrible at information gathering or there's some oversight either in the writing or on what I understood.
 
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I asked about the same thing up-thread. All the elves in the hotel are legally bought and registered except for the one they liberated at the auction (but including Maria, whom they don't see with the drone), and Hana, whom they also don't see (and nobody would know on casual observation that she's a half-elf). Granted they're under MC's grandfather's license (because he doesn't have one), but they're all registered. I think it's a gap in the writing personally.
You're probably right
 

danb35

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Either the Ascendents know something we don't, they're horrible at information gathering or there's some oversight either in the writing or on what I understood.
When I raised the issue a few pages up, it was suggested that it was deliberate disinformation to freak out Felicity. A problem, IMO, with that hypothesis is that as far as we see Felicity wasn't there yet to hear that line. We also see Kali concerned about what happens if they see the sanctuary, suggesting that she thinks something illegal is going on there--and there isn't, unless you count sheltering Nia, but nobody knows her identity at this point.

But yes, I think it's a hole in the writing. There are, from memory, five elves in the Sanctuary. Four of them are fully documented, in addition to three more (Lin, Jin, and Maria) who live in the Hotel proper--so there's just no issue with the numbers. Cira and Hana are there illegally, so if someone were checking papers and taking DNA MC would have a problem, but the "count noses" that they're doing with the drone sees fewer elves than are actually registered there. It'd probably be considered weird to have bought an elf and just have her live in this separate building doing nothing, but "weird" isn't illegal.

Felicity is the best explanation I've heard, but I still don't think it's very convincing.
 

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So, putting this link here:

It is an AVN bundle with 73 games (including around a dozen demos) for the price of pay what you want. Obvously it include Harem Hotel too, but as we know Harem Hotel is free regardless.
Is any of those games not free, and is the money handed over to the developers or the person that markets the bundle? Anyways, the problem with these kind of games is that development speed is rather slow and very few ever get finished. I don’t see a point in trying any of them out just to wait 5-10 years for a product that entertains me for an handful of hours if it hasn’t been dropped by then tbh
 

TheDevian

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Is any of those games not free, and is the money handed over to the developers or the person that markets the bundle? Anyways, the problem with these kind of games is that development speed is rather slow and very few ever get finished. I don’t see a point in trying any of them out just to wait 5-10 years for a product that entertains me for an handful of hours if it hasn’t been dropped by then tbh
Yeah, many are paid games (there are 73 games total). Almost all of them are in progress, most of them are here. This is just a way to help the devs and support their work. You can donate what you can. Seems more than fair to me.
 

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We also see Kali concerned about what happens if they see the sanctuary, suggesting that she thinks something illegal is going on there--and there isn't, unless you count sheltering Nia, but nobody knows her identity at this point.
Might be a stretch in my own thinking but I assumed that Kali not wanting them to see Sanctuary was more on how the elves were treated and less about illegal going-ons happening there. The elves live like people, don't have to wear collars and can relax and be themselves. We see very few spots where such things happen. I'm sure the MC isn't the first person to treat their slave like a decent person, but story beats have shown us that it is very few who actually own elves who do so. There are plenty of Autumns and Vanessas in the world, but very few like the MC/Grandfather. This is even true from Lin's point of view, as one of her events calls this out to Autumn, and we all know how sheltered her life has been. Hell, 3 elves kidnap the MC just at a chance at a better life, as goofy as that all went.

Is that information useful to the Ascendents? Unknown. Could it be dangerous to the MC? Possibly. Cornwell was entirely surprised at Lin's performance during the challenge simply because she cared for the MC (assuming you bothered to level her stats to win it). What could he do with the information on how the MC treats his slaves?

All conjecture and possibly wrong. Just the way I read into it though.
 
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TheDevian

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Might be a stretch in my own thinking but I assumed that Kali not wanting them to see Sanctuary was more on how the elves were treated and less about illegal going-ons happening there. The elves live like people, don't have to wear collars and can relax and be themselves. We see very few spots where such things happen. I'm sure the MC isn't the first person to treat their slave like a decent person, but story beats have shown us that it is very few who actually own elves who do so. There are plenty of Autumns and Vanessas in the world, but very few like the MC/Grandfather. This is even true from Lin's point of view, as one of her events calls this out to Autumn, and we all know how sheltered her life has been. Hell, 3 elves kidnap the MC just at a chance at a better life, as goofy as that all went.

Is that information useful to the Ascendents? Unknown. Could it be dangerous to the MC? Possibly. Cornwell was entirely surprised at Lin's performance during the challenge simply because she cared for the MC (assuming you bothered to level her stats to win it). What could he do with the information on how the MC treats his slaves?

All conjecture and possibly wrong. Just the way I read into it though.
In universe, it could just be a need to know thing, don't give out more info than you need to.

Meta reason is that you may, or may not have done some of those other events yet.
 

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Yeah, many are paid games (there are 73 games total). Almost all of them are in progress, most of them are here. This is just a way to help the devs and support their work. You can donate what you can. Seems more than fair to me.
Yeah, as long as the devs get their share, it’s still a neat idea. Thanks for sharing
 

TheDevian

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Yeah, as long as the devs get their share, it’s still a neat idea. Thanks for sharing
Yeah, they do, everyone gets an equal share (unless they opt out), I know the guys organizing it. Been in a few myself.
 
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I would love to see MC punching faces in the game. I wish this game had a strength/fight stat and a possibility to train them.
 

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I would love to see MC punching faces in the game. I wish this game had a strength/fight stat and a possibility to train them.
That'd be illegal in the setting and punching people around isn't that attractive. It always makes me cringe when the MC is a kungfu master and all the women around cream themselves over the prospect of physical violence. Hard thing to write well when you want to have grounded characters that somewhat behave like real people would.
 

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That'd be illegal in the setting and punching people around isn't that attractive. It always makes me cringe when the MC is a kungfu master and all the women around cream themselves over the prospect of physical violence. Hard thing to write well when you want to have grounded characters that somewhat behave like real people would.
Yeah, I was annoyed enough at his outburst over Maria, as if Cornhole went out of his way to get her tested and placed in those programs. Don't get me wrong, his plans are awful, but he had nothing to do with Maria's plan, that was all her. Hana even warned her not to do it. Cornhole was only indirectly to blame, and honestly, it's more the whole society, not him specifically.
 

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Hana even warned her not to do it.
Eh, kind of. I mean, yes, she did, but she knew perfectly well why not to do it and kept her mouth shut. Maria forgave her cowardice far too readily IMO.

None of which really addresses your (correct) point, which was that MC's outburst at Cornjob was mostly misdirected.
 

TheDevian

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Eh, kind of. I mean, yes, she did, but she knew perfectly well why not to do it and kept her mouth shut. Maria forgave her cowardice far too readily IMO.

None of which really addresses your (correct) point, which was that MC's outburst at Cornjob was mostly misdirected.
Hana didn't know she was a half elf, she just knew what would happen in her case, and didn't want something similar to happen to her friend, just in case. But wasn't able to just come out and say it because of her secret. She might have seen the scars (they were apparently obvious enough to anyone looking for them, unless that line was removed), but never really gave us any hint of that. If she had seen the scars, then yeah, she should have said something more there.
 

danb35

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she just knew what would happen in her case, and didn't want something similar to happen to her friend, just in case
I don't think "I know I'd be screwed if I did this" really explains Hana's reaction. If she knew who/what Maria was? Her reaction makes sense, but she should have said more. If not, and she just knew she (Hana) would be screwed? I don't think she pushes that hard against it--particularly when "pushing hard" is pretty out of character for her.

And I don't really want Maria to hold a grudge against her, because I don't want needless drama in the first place. But I do think Hana's reaction is off--it's too much if she doesn't have any reason to believe Maria is a half-elf, and too little if she does.
 

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Basing what happened to Maria on real life DNA results, it would be easy for Maria to think that she was safe.

Example: A friend of mine who is black and has dark skin had his DNA tested, so that he could find out where his ancestors came from.
Results: He was 82% European, with the rest from Africa, and sephartic Jewish ancestry.

Someone in the stories world, could easily believe that they are safe, when they are not.
 
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