VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.18.2] [Runey]

[allenandarth]

Indeed, it kind of reminds me of actual real world online shopping site designs, Amazon in particular.





Indeed, this is a man who took a girl he cares for into the hospital for a DNA test only to have her manhandled by security in a VERY rough manner unprovoked all because she has enough Elven DNA in her results to qualify as a slave. He then goes to buy her back to get her out of there and the nurse in charge of handling her treats her in the most disgracefully degrading way possible right in front of him. I'm a complete pacifist, anything short of necessary violence is not even an option to me, but that goes out the window in a situation like this. The second someone I care for is treated that badly, it's war and the flag of no quarter is flying. Most people should react in a similar way to something like this. I was mentally screaming at and cursing out Cornwall by the second time through that event and now I want his head on a pike, I misinterpreted it the first time, and I'm not even the MC, I'm just playing as him. Yeah, I went from Lin to Nia in terms of how I viewed the situation real fast when that happened, they've lost their chance at a peaceful resolution as far as I'm concerned.

hard disagree, he didn't even go to buy her, Helen did, he didn't even think of that, he went insane, i didn't react like that and Maria is one of my absolute favorite characters in this game and for the MC to go at it that way just didn't feel right to me, i wasn't even cursing Cornwall, i was mad, i still felt that the MC could've handled that better, his priority shifted too much for me to agree with it and by the way i'm still on Lin's side of the fence, i hard disagree with Nia's side

 

[Jjay08]

hard disagree, he didn't even go to buy her, Helen did, he didn't even think of that, he went insane, i didn't react like that and Maria is one of my absolute favorite characters in this game and for the MC to go at it that way just didn't feel right to me, i wasn't even cursing Cornwall, i was mad, i still felt that the MC could've handled that better, his priority shifted too much for me to agree with it and by the way i'm still on Lin's side of the fence, i hard disagree with Nia's side

I would have bought her if I had the option. After she was taken I was freaking out checking the website every morning to see if she had gone up yet. I even just hit the pass time button over and over just to get to the even to get her back to see what would happen to her. Probably the most emotional i've gotten in the game.

 

[Corvus Belli]

Imagine having your girlfriend kidnapped, enslaved, put through hell and traumatized like that. How would you react?

We don't live in a society that has casual slavery of the sort in Harem Hotel, so it's not really the same thing. Let's remember that one of the MC's other girlfriends has also been kidnapped, enslaved, put through hell and traumatized, and he's never seemed anywhere near as angry about it. To continue your example, if your girlfriend told you about the times in her past when she was enslaved and mistreated, would you be angry about it, or would you be as relatively indifferent as the MC?

I think his anger is perfectly understandable and reasonable, but his reactions were stupid, even if I understand them. I mean, I'd already guessed that Maria was half-elf, because of the scars on her ears, and I'm sure others had too; the only reason I'd not been 100% certain about is that as a half-dark elf, Maria should live to be about 250, and there was no indication from anyone that she'd aged more slowly.* So I thought letting her even go for the DNA test was a terrible idea; I also thought she knew/suspected she was half-elf, so her willingness to go seemed bizarre to me.

The MC's anger is because he has, on some level, been okay with elves being slaves; he's angry because he thought Maria was human, and seeing her treated the way elves are treated was the thing that made him snap, because he knows it's a terrible way to treat someone. And yet he was somewhat blasé about elves being treated that way.

*Common elves live fifteen times longer than humans, meaning a 1000 year old common elf is the equivalent to a 65 year old human, and they age at a similarly reduced rate (that's how Lin can be nearly 300 and look to be about 20). Dark elves life half as long as common elves, so they can live to be about 500, though probably less because they're not getting adequate healthcare, and age at about one-seventh the rate of a human. Half elves live half as long as their parent species, so half-dark elves should live to be about 250, and age at about one-third the rate of a human.
Therefore, Maria should either look a lot younger (like about 7 or so) or be a lot older (mid-fifties), and both would have been noticeable when she was growing up. Neither is the case. I think it was a math mistake; Runey says no.
It also proves the superiority of half-elves; elves live longer than humans but learn more slowly, while Maria is a very intelligent woman who was top of her classes, which proves she learns as quickly as a human, but will live substantially longer. Is this true for all half-elves?

 

[ciderapple]

Imagine having your girlfriend kidnapped, enslaved, put through hell and traumatized like that. How would you react?

That depends on if I get to help with the kidnapping, enslaving, and so on.

Sometimes being evil in games is fun.
(and my gf is the android anyway, and she wouldn't mind. sooo....)

 

[DarkGenesis]

If anyone can help, I get this error everytime I start the game even with no saves.

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[c3p0]

If anyone can help, I get this error everytime I start the game even with no saves.

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Seems like the French translation have a double definition.
Usually questions would be:

• Which version?
• Which platform?
• Which variante? (compressed, Runeys, updated with my patch....)

After this we can help you better.

 

[DarkGenesis]

Seems like the French translation have a double definition.
Usually questions would be:

• Which version?
• Which platform?
• Which variante? (compressed, Runeys, updated with my patch....)

After this we can help you better.

Version 0.12.4
Android using Joiplay
I downloaded directly from Runeys patreon

Also I should mention the game ran perfectly couple of times I played yesterday but this error is popping up today.

 

[Jjay08]

We don't live in a society that has casual slavery of the sort in Harem Hotel, so it's not really the same thing. Let's remember that one of the MC's other girlfriends has also been kidnapped, enslaved, put through hell and traumatized, and he's never seemed anywhere near as angry about it. To continue your example, if your girlfriend told you about the times in her past when she was enslaved and mistreated, would you be angry about it, or would you be as relatively indifferent as the MC?

I think his anger is perfectly understandable and reasonable, but his reactions were stupid, even if I understand them. I mean, I'd already guessed that Maria was half-elf, because of the scars on her ears, and I'm sure others had too; the only reason I'd not been 100% certain about is that as a half-dark elf, Maria should live to be about 250, and there was no indication from anyone that she'd aged more slowly.* So I thought letting her even go for the DNA test was a terrible idea; I also thought she knew/suspected she was half-elf, so her willingness to go seemed bizarre to me.

The MC's anger is because he has, on some level, been okay with elves being slaves; he's angry because he thought Maria was human, and seeing her treated the way elves are treated was the thing that made him snap, because he knows it's a terrible way to treat someone. And yet he was somewhat blasé about elves being treated that way.

*Common elves live fifteen times longer than humans, meaning a 1000 year old common elf is the equivalent to a 65 year old human, and they age at a similarly reduced rate (that's how Lin can be nearly 300 and look to be about 20). Dark elves life half as long as common elves, so they can live to be about 500, though probably less because they're not getting adequate healthcare, and age at about one-seventh the rate of a human. Half elves live half as long as their parent species, so half-dark elves should live to be about 250, and age at about one-third the rate of a human.
Therefore, Maria should either look a lot younger (like about 7 or so) or be a lot older (mid-fifties), and both would have been noticeable when she was growing up. Neither is the case. I think it was a math mistake; Runey says no.
It also proves the superiority of half-elves; elves live longer than humans but learn more slowly, while Maria is a very intelligent woman who was top of her classes, which proves she learns as quickly as a human, but will live substantially longer. Is this true for all half-elves?

wait she has scars on her ears? Also when your in the hospital all the anti cross breeding posters sorta tipped the hat on that fact for me finally. Raised an eyebrow and said, "There are a lot of these posters..."

 

[QQP_Purple]

We don't live in a society that has casual slavery of the sort in Harem Hotel, so it's not really the same thing.

Neither does the MC. Remember, he is an outsider that just moved in from an outside world where the slavery situation is not known.

Let's remember that one of the MC's other girlfriends has also been kidnapped, enslaved, put through hell and traumatized, and he's never seemed anywhere near as angry about it. To continue your example, if your girlfriend told you about the times in her past when she was enslaved and mistreated, would you be angry about it, or would you be as relatively indifferent as the MC?

The reaction would be quite different. It would be emotional, yes. But it would not be immediate panic-rage. Instead it would be more along the lines of sadness and anger with a mind to trying to comfort her. The source of the situation forcing you to get emotional is simply different and therefore the reaction is different.

Now again, did the MC do something stupid? Yes, absolutely. Is it going to come back to bite him that he burned bridges he could have used? Yes. But it is understandable that a person would react that way. That's all I am saying.

To be perfectly honest I hope the MC does something about the elf-droids as well. Those things are just horrifying body horror to me. And I completely agree with the notion that if the elves become redundant before they become free they are more likely to be killed off than set free.

The MC's anger is because he has, on some level, been okay with elves being slaves; he's angry because he thought Maria was human, and seeing her treated the way elves are treated was the thing that made him snap, because he knows it's a terrible way to treat someone. And yet he was somewhat blasé about elves being treated that way.

Quite possibly, yes. And having it smashed into his face like this really is the tipping point.

This was his call to action. And he could either take it or spend the rest of his life in regret watching as the unyielding machine of slavery slowly grinds down everyone and everything he loves.

 

[hanshase99]

I'm just here to say runey is doing a terrific job. And the way I hate Emma and Felicity is a good thing as well, I think.

 

[Deleted member 289409]

Neither does the MC. Remember, he is an outsider that just moved in from an outside world where the slavery situation is not known.

It's known about in the outside world. The problem is Syl'anar is too powerful of a nation to risk going to war against. I believe that had mentioned but I can't remember by who.

 

[Corvus Belli]

wait she has scars on her ears?

She did, though it was mentioned years ago, around about the same time she mentioned being an orphan, and may have been removed in revisions since then. The combination of "I have these scars on a very particular part of my body, which would hide my elven ancestry" and "I've never met my parents, don't ask about them" was, to me at least, obviously suspicious.

Neither does the MC.

He does live in a society with casual slavery, though. He wasn't born or raised there, but he does live there.

Remember, he is an outsider that just moved in from an outside world where the slavery situation is not known.

The slavery of an entire species is very much known in the outside world, and the MC coming from a culture without it just makes his indifference to it that much worse. He moves to the continet, and one of the first things that happens to him is that he's told, "here, this elf is your property", and his reaction is just, "oh, okay then." He clearly doesn't think that owning a person is a bad thing.

To be perfectly honest I hope the MC does something about the elf-droids as well. Those things are just horrifying body horror to me. And I completely agree with the notion that if the elves become redundant before they become free they are more likely to be killed off than set free.

Oh yeah, the elf-droids are abhorrent. I especially like how none of the characters seem to have noticed that their existence has reduced elves even further, from "slave race" to "fuel source". If the entire nations economy becomes dependent on droids that require elf blood to funtion, then elves won't be free, they'll be harvested.

 

[Deleted member 289409]

Maria is a very intelligent woman who was top of her classes, which proves she learns as quickly as a human, but will live substantially longer. Is this true for all half-elves?

Half-Dark Elves like Maria only live as long as a human and then there is Hana who is 1/4 High Elf 1/4 Lowland Elf and half-human and she ages just like a human for unknown reasons.

https://f95zone.to/threads/harem-hotel-v0-12-4-public-runey.12760/post-2183743

 

[QQP_Purple]

He does live in a society with casual slavery, though. He wasn't born or raised there, but he does live there.

For a very, very short period of time.

The slavery of an entire species is very much known in the outside world, and the MC coming from a culture without it just makes his indifference to it that much worse. He moves to the continet, and one of the first things that happens to him is that he's told, "here, this elf is your property", and his reaction is just, "oh, okay then." He clearly doesn't think that owning a person is a bad thing.

Not just the MC but the player as well. Let's be real. It's frighting how easy one accepts these things.

Oh yeah, the elf-droids are abhorrent. I especially like how none of the characters seem to have noticed that their existence has reduced elves even further, from "slave race" to "fuel source". If the entire nations economy becomes dependent on droids that require elf blood to funtion, then elves won't be free, they'll be harvested.

And that needs to be stopped, no matter the cost.

I mean, I am the sort of guy in real life who thinks that all activists, no matter their cause, are evil and should be banned simply because they are annoying meddlers that can't just shut up and leave the rest of us sensible people be. And even I would stand up to this.

 

[demondelic.psy]

I fell in love with this game, definitely one of it's first kind to have had me reeled in to play more erotic games (which is to say that it's thanks to this dev that I've had a fascination to play with more stuff like this since). It provided some pretty kinky and wholesome experiences with characters like Ashley and Lin. Lately I've stopped myself from playing, and not due to petty reasons. I haven't taken a liking to the direction the game's narative was heading towards, especially with talks of some kind of revolution from what I've gathered on these threads. I enjoy a profound story rich in conflict as much as the next guy but it kinda takes away from the charm the game had in it's earlier stages, it wasn't trying too hard with the world building and focused on the hijinks between the characters in the hotel. If I had a nickel for every MC I've played as that had to throw the current world/country's system flat on it's ass it wouldn't be enough to get me rich but certainly enough for decent pocket change which should still be alarming. Runey I'm not saying that I don't enjoy your writing, you had me hooked for a good while and I might certainly come back later along the lines when the game decides to come back to it's "roots" if I can even call it as such, it's after all my opinion and anybody is free to disagree. For now though I'm going to play a bit of keep-away and tune in to read some more threads every now and then.

 

[Corvus Belli]

Half-Dark Elves like Maria only live as long as a human

I'm aware that's been stated, but it's a contradiction with previously stated information. We've been told that dark elves live about seven times longer than humans (half as long as common elves) and half-elves live half as long as their elvish parent. As a result, half-dark elves should live over three time longer than humans, but with Maria we're just told "nope, previous information was wrong". Runey is free to change whatever facets of his story he wants, but those still remain mutually exclusive pieces of information.

Not just the MC but the player as well. Let's be real. It's frighting how easy one accepts these things.

The player accepted the conceit of a porn game, as a kink. That's hardly the same thing as actually accepting slavery.

...all activists, no matter their cause, are evil and should be banned ...

So the people who advocated for a minimum wage, five-day work weeks, eight hour work days, the civil rights movement, and the end of actual, real-world slavery were all evil? And it should be a crime to seek any form of political or social change? Well, that's an opinion, certainly.

 

[c3p0]

when the game decides to come back to it's "roots"

Curious how do you define what the "roots" of this game is, that is in development?

 

[demondelic.psy]

Curious how do you define what the "roots" of this game is, that is in development?

wasn't trying too hard with the world building and focused on the hijinks between the characters in the hotel.

 

[QQP_Purple]

The player accepted the conceit of a porn game, as a kink. That's hardly the same thing as actually accepting slavery.

That depends on if you approach this game as just fap material or as a visual novel with sex in it. For me the visual novel aspect, and thus the writing and story are the focus of my experience with this game. The sex is secondary.

So the people who advocated for a minimum wage, five-day work weeks, eight hour work days, the civil rights movement, and the end of actual, real-world slavery were all evil? And it should be a crime to seek any form of political or social change? Well, that's an opinion, certainly.

No, they were not evil. Because I wasn't around back than to be annoyed. But anyone being annoying to me today for any reason is evil because I don't like being annoyed.

It's really simple. Evil = things I don't like. Good = things I like.
Insert the speakers name instead of I and you get the universal formula of all morality.

 

[c3p0]

And how do you decide that the first is the root and the second is not? For an unfished product?
Even if you measure it, it doesn't make sense as the overall content is not defined. 80% of unkown is still unkown. Only after this is finished we will know where any "roots" may be.