VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.18 Beta3] [Runey]

[Runey]

ok ty i just started over a new game playing it all again to see all scenes i missed out

Yeah, truestory unlocks all of the game's content, not just incest. Although it's mainly used for incest. Lucy's story is locked behind the truestory code.

 

[Sinphil]

I might not have learnt to read, according to you, but you surely haven't learnt to write. At least not with proper punctuation.

On the points you highlight, you asked what other games did that and I provided an example. Your argument was that no one did and you've been proven wrong. Another example could be Peasant's Quest in which a character doesn't provide repeatable sex scenes anymore after she gives birth and asks you to wait for the next update.
By the way, if you learnt to read yourself, you'd realize I didn't say in Corruption you got new content as soon as you made the character your slave. That hasn't been true for multiple updates, during which if you enslaved your mother you'd lose the ability to see previous scenes with her and wouldn't get anything in return. Only recently, after months, new content for her as a slave has been implemented.
So the argument was simply: you're complaining about an inexistent problem because the issue you have will have lasted, when 0.6 comes out, for just the timeframe of development of the very next update. If you want to look at cliffhangers and cockblocking, you've been pointing out in the wrong direction. This game doesn't do that, it's just false.
You keep essentially demanding this game to never let anything suspended, which is not possible since the game is not finished and still in development. The story will progress with every update and that's unavoidable with the development model that's been adopted.

Regarding realism, you are committing a double fallacy. Pointing at the existence of elves in the game doesn't mean the game can be unrealistic on other levels. Of course elves and androids are not realistic in the strict sense of the word, but for a game in a fictitious setting with fantasy or sci-fi elements realism has another meaning, which is that of internal coherence of the world building. If the characters in that world act as people in ours, with similar behaviours, it is unrealistic if they suddenly start to behave like characters in a 80s B grade porn flick.
And that's where your second fallacy comes into place, you said there is no realism in the game and then argue that since you think that Autumn is dumb she should let the MC bone her as otherwise it doesn't make sense. So you must make up your mind: either the game is realistic or it's not. If you think it's not, you can't use realism as the basis to argue that a dumb character must fall for manipulation; in that case you might instead argue that since nothing makes sense then you might as well go the extra mile and let the player easily fuck Autumn because it's porn with no internal rational structure. But that's not what you're doing. You're dismissing realism claims by pointing out at setting elements that don't fit reality, but then you're going back to reality to state that in the real world the twins would not fall for you and Autumn instead should. You're the one inconsistent in the reasoning, not the game.
To top it all, you are also misunderstanding Autumn, since at no point she is depicted as dumb. She's naive and deceivable, but she isn't dumb. You're saying she's dumb only on the basis of some prejudice regarding religious people. She doesn't have answers when faced with the harsh reality that hers is just idealism, but that doesn't mean being dumb, she's just inexperienced and idealistic. She talks about how things should be and doesn't know how they actually are in all their aspects or why it's so hard to have them change, but she's no bimbo. She can use reasoning, she just has a different set of values that inspire her in her views and choices.

On the issue of grinding, I don't know which game you've been playing, because there is no grinding needed. You literally just talk to people half of the time and perform sexual acts the other half. You can see all non optional scenes without a care for anything but visiting repeatedly the character.

Besides, complaining about grinding in a Ren'Py game is ludicrous due to the fact that the source code can be extracted and altered to fit your tastes, just as you can simply enable the console to skip whatever "grinding" you might feel to exist.
Of course it'd still be a valid critique to the game itself if it was the case that grinding is demanded, but you are sorely mistaken on that front. Unless for you grinding means playing a Visual Novel, that is reading.

So how do you get your relationship points up to unlock content? You really only did everything once? Now politely go piss in your boots and swim. The guy is nothing special, hes wasted time on bar and other BS while leaving multiple character lines with little content. You keep kissing his ass but its going to be people like MrDots, DrPinkCake and HopesGaming that get my dollars. If you don't like my complaining then don't read it, been insulting and complaining about complaining is just hypocrisy.

 

[goobdoob]

So how do you get your relationship points up to unlock content? You really only did everything once? Now politely go piss in your boots and swim. The guy is nothing special, hes wasted time on bar and other BS while leaving multiple character lines with little content. You keep kissing his ass but its going to be people like MrDots, DrPinkCake and HopesGaming that get my dollars. If you don't like my complaining then don't read it, been insulting and complaining about complaining is just hypocrisy.

You know, if you don't want people who don't like your complaining to read your complaining, you should preface your complaining with a warning.

 

[Sinphil]

I am very curious on what your definition of 'grinding' is. What I understand is 'reading' is hard for you and what you consider a grind.

All stats can be ignored, stats rarely effect the story as well. So you don't need to buy outfits, or unlock traits for them. You don't need to unlock the bar, or watch them shower. To play the game though, you need to read the story. So from what I understand, reading means grinding for you. If you don't like visual novels, don't play them.

And if I understand correctly, you're upset that you had to play the game, then wait 5 days while Maria thinks about herself (This is how long she's supposed to locked). Yes, she was technically locked for 2 ish months while the update was going, but honestly, I've never seen so much hype for Maria before. Never have I seen so many people talk about Maria than after that update.

Autumn isn't dumb, but she is a bit naive. She's stuck in her own personal logic, and if you play around that logic, you can get whatever you want from her. And she only has 13 story events, which means clicking 13 times on her door to read the story. If that's grind to you, it must be hard to blink.

All characters start in their most flawed state, which is generally how stories are written, or in other words, "rags to riches". Rags to riches is the most popular form of story telling because we like to see progression.

Anyway, that's sort of all I want to say. Everything else you've complained about has been explained in game, and since reading is apparently hard for you, I don't expect you to read the story and understand what's going on.

edit: I can totally understand if you don't like the characters, or their stories, or the game as a whole. Your opinion is perfectly fine with me.



Felicity and Emma are basically caught up with the rest of the girls. They're only 3 - 4 events behind most of the girls, and Autumn is around 13 events behind most of the girls. This was also a complaint when Android showed up, but she caught up quickly due to me having less stories to juggle. All of the new girls get special treatment to get caught up by having more story than the older girls.

I don't really sacrifice main girls stories for side girls stories, but I can see how it seems that's the case. I just make story when I think of it, and I think of it a week before I start development on the update. Sometimes I have story for the update after, but typically not. So this update, I had a lot of stories in mind for side characters, and I also wanted to make the game broader. But side characters wont be having the same focus as main characters. They'll just be getting some fun story lines whenever they pop into my head.

So you get relationship points up simply by doing every activity once? To get the points up high enough to open content you have to do things repeatedly....also known as grinding. Can you really do all those door activities if your friendship is just 3 or 4? Maybe I wrong and friendship does go off the door events only and I was missing other triggers but had to go chat and repeat scenes for weeks on most of them before some door events opened up. Also a lot of story events don't trigger at doors so have to walk into every room and check all girls doors every day to make sure not missing some trigger event in Laundry/Lobby/hot spring/kitchen (so a dozen locations to visit just on spec on top of repeated dialogues each day). Maybe if you played from start and had break between each update it wouldn't seem grindy but when you joined late its extremely tedious and repetitive.

I actually like storyline and world you created. I like the twist on elves while staying true to Celtic lore (Thankfully not following Norse lore) and the retreat to the Island in the Mists and how some left Island because of discrimination.

 

[Runey]

So you get relationship points up simply by doing every activity once? To get the points up high enough to open content you have to do things repeatedly....also known as grinding. Can you really do all those door activities if your friendship is just 3 or 4? Maybe I wrong and friendship does go off the door events only and I was missing other triggers but had to go chat and repeat scenes for weeks on most of them before some door events opened up. Also a lot of story events don't trigger at doors so have to walk into every room and check all girls doors every day to make sure not missing some trigger event in Laundry/Lobby/hot spring/kitchen (so a dozen locations to visit just on spec on top of repeated dialogues each day). Maybe if you played from start and had break between each update it wouldn't seem grindy but when you joined late its extremely tedious and repetitive.

I actually like storyline and world you created. I like the twist on elves while staying true to Celtic lore (Thankfully not following Norse lore) and the retreat to the Island in the Mists and how some left Island because of discrimination.

Right, so taking them out to eat doesn't do anything for their story. You aren't required to do X thing Y amount of times before something pops up. The only requirements for all of story the events are Day >= X, and Friendship = Y.

Let's say you're at Friendship 5 with Lin, you just did the story event to increase her friendship to 5. To do her 6th story event to raise her friendship to 6, you need to wait a day or two (sometimes 3) for the next "Talk" option to appear on her door. In the days in between, you're meant to talk to the other girls and do their Story Events.

Not all events spawn from the "Talk" option, but those that don't very clearly tell you what needs to be done. For example "I think I saw Ashley heading to the Laundry Room" or Autumn saying "AH! [name], come here!" when you wake up (hinting that you need to go to her room). So in the end, all story events tell the player what they need to do.

You can raise her affection by taking her on dates, raise her exhibitionism by making her show her tits at the cafe, raise her submission in the dungeon, train her sex stats, etc etc, but that has nothing to do with a character's story. It may influence some dialog, or add/change a scene, but stats will never be a requirement for story as it's said right when you launch the game. "QUICK GUIDE: Leveling up stats and gaining traits are not required to play through the story"

So, to reiterate, to play through a character's story, click on their doors once in a while, if you see nothing, click on another characters door.

There are random events though. Events that pop up in the bar for example. They have minimum requirements for friendship such as:
if ashley friendship > 10
play event
else:
don't play event

Those aren't story events, but random events. They don't push the story forward, but do offer fun content, such as the Felicity and Ashley drinking competition.

 

[Mytez]

Finally decided to play the update, didn't want to play the "beta" version.

What an amazing job with Ashley's character, she used to be that super annoying brat obsessed with the MC, but she has jumped to the top of the list of my favorite characters next to Maria. Also, as someone who really liked Sylvia, I'm very happy for future updates.

Here's hoping we can find a way to buy Ashley's caretaker elf (can't remember the name) to give her a surprise.

 

[Runey]

Finally decided to play the update, didn't want to play the "beta" version.

What an amazing job with Ashley's character, she used to be that super annoying brat obsessed with the MC, but she has jumped to the top of the list of my favorite characters next to Maria. Also, as someone who really liked Sylvia, I'm very happy for future updates.

Here's hoping we can find a way to buy Ashley's caretaker elf (can't remember the name) to give her a surprise.

Thank you so much for waiting for the full experience!

 

[Scrot]

Here's hoping we can find a way to buy Ashley's caretaker elf (can't remember the name) to give her a surprise.

that is a nice idea i thought the same when ashley was telling me her story

 

[Grapanda]

There is it! Lucy scene in hot spring being fucked and Kali seeing Lucy and MC fuck until end ❤❤❤ i just hope that developer change Kali hair's, maybe with long hair hehe

 

[Scrot]

There is it! Lucy scene in hot spring being fucked and Kali seeing Lucy and MC fuck until end ❤❤❤ i just hope that developer change Kali hair's, maybe with long hair hehe

why??? she is pretty with her hair like that i like her hair and is diferent from the another girls
i don't really think she need change her hair but yeah could have a scene like when Lin changed her hair color but whith Kali

 

[Grapanda]

why??? she is pretty with her hair like that i like her hair and is diferent from the another girls
i don't really think she need change her hair but yeah could have a scene like when Lin changed her hair color but whith Kali

her hair totally mess haha, i prefer Lucy take Kali's place instead.. I mean for main character model, that would be perfect hehe

 

[recreation]

Yeah, truestory unlocks all of the game's content, not just incest. Although it's mainly used for incest. Lucy's story is locked behind the truestory code.

Not just incest?

There is it! Lucy scene in hot spring being fucked and Kali seeing Lucy and MC fuck until end ❤❤❤ i just hope that developer change Kali hair's, maybe with long hair hehe

There is another scene

 

[RemiliaScarlett]

The weekly income from bar are buggy after getting mixology.
Does anyone knows a fix for that?

 

[andy6915]

I am on day 23, and I still only have 3 residents. And yes, I already bought the second floor.

 

[recreation]

The weekly income from bar are buggy after getting mixology.
Does anyone knows a fix for that?

Thats not a bug, it's a feature^^
seriously, I don't have any bugs there, income just fluctuates.

I am on day 23, and I still only have 3 residents. And yes, I already bought the second floor.

Did you ask Ellen? Did you visit Ashley at school?

 

[aolli]

I am on day 23, and I still only have 3 residents. And yes, I already bought the second floor.

Keep playing.

 

[andy6915]

Thats not a bug, it's a feature^^
seriously, I don't have any bugs there, income just fluctuates.


Did you ask Ellen? Did you visit Ashley at school?

I asked, she said I just need to give more time. I did visit her, and did talk to her classmates too. Are one of them are going move in?

 

[Runey]

The weekly income from bar are buggy after getting mixology.
Does anyone knows a fix for that?

What's buggy?

I asked, she said I just need to give more time. I did visit her, and did talk to her classmates too. Are one of them are going move in?

Day 23 is very early in the game, just give it time as Ellen says. Only outlier is that Maria only joins after you do Ashley's story more.

 

[RemiliaScarlett]

i'm talking about having this every time i'm supposed to get the bar income





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Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 7.1.3.1092
Harem Hotel v0.6.1
Sat Mar 02 01:50:07 2019

 

[Runey]

i'm talking about having this every time i'm supposed to get the bar income



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File "game/script.rpyc", line 34853, in script
File "I:\Harem_Hotel-v0.6.1-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 678, in execute
renpy.exports.say(who, what, interact=self.interact, *args, **kwargs)
File "I:\Harem_Hotel-v0.6.1-pc\renpy\exports.py", line 1229, in say
who(what, *args, **kwargs)
File "I:\Harem_Hotel-v0.6.1-pc\renpy\character.py", line 1018, in __call__
what = what_pattern.replace("[what]", sub(what, translate=True))
File "I:\Harem_Hotel-v0.6.1-pc\renpy\character.py", line 1007, in sub
return renpy.substitutions.substitute(s, scope=scope, force=force, translate=translate)[0]
File "I:\Harem_Hotel-v0.6.1-pc\renpy\substitutions.py", line 244, in substitute
s = formatter.vformat(s, (), kwargs)
File "/home/tom/ab/x64lucid-deps/install/lib/python2.7/string.py", line 563, in vformat
File "/home/tom/ab/x64lucid-deps/install/lib/python2.7/string.py", line 585, in _vformat
File "/home/tom/ab/x64lucid-deps/install/lib/python2.7/string.py", line 646, in get_field
File "/home/tom/ab/x64lucid-deps/install/lib/python2.7/string.py", line 605, in get_value
KeyError: u'bpatron3'

Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 7.1.3.1092
Harem Hotel v0.6.1
Sat Mar 02 01:50:07 2019

Ah, I see. That's a very odd bug that seems to happen due to a corrupted game.
"bpatron3" is defined in the script, but in your game (which is up to date) it is not.

One of two things are happening here,
You've either merged v0.6.1 with a previous version of the game, which is a terrible idea and will always break the game, or your download just got corrupted somehow.

In any case, you need to redownload the game, and everything should work.