VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.18 Beta3] [Runey]

[christof rauch]

Thanks for the suggestions. however big changes aren't necessary. They specifically told me I could either change her physical appearance (breasts) or change her school uniform outfit. This is coming from the mouth of the beast themselves.

No offense intended, but if you increase her breast size, I would probably no longer play the game. Patreon has gone too far in censure and is rediculous in their assessment, and I feel has become the Political Police for the internet. Do nbot give in, there are other sites that would gladly hostyour gazme, content and all.

 

[RemiliaScarlett]

well she looked cute with her stuffed bras, but she looks cute with her normal size too,
need to pet head.
all the heads
petting intensifies

 

[Master of Puppets]

As much as I like the new outfit for Ashley @Runey showed, I just can't get over how disgusting the censorship is. I don't know why you would submit to that kind of bullying; set up on some of the other crowdfunding sites, and ask your followers to switch their support over to other ones. I bet most of them would!

 

[DarkShroud]

Gotta wonder how long it will take to change all those scenes with Ashley in them.
I've never used Honey Select or software like it, so it could be as simple as switching an outfit and having it render everything overnight, or it could be a drawn out process that takes weeks.

Can we get any idea how long it will take to at least get the game to its current level with the altered outfit?

 

[401Grem]

Ashley has wanted to look better and have bigger breasts since the beginning, give them to her.

 

[RemiliaScarlett]

Ashley has wanted to look better and have bigger breasts since the beginning, give them to her.

I'm expecting her to get some hormonal treatment choice or something because of the conversations about her being so small and all from being malnourished as a kid, but at the same time i dont want her to try to fit into an ideal, but just be happy the way she is, she's plenty cute already

 

[recreation]

Alright, so there has (finally) been a response from Patreon. Here's what they had to say

Spoiler: Patreon's response

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I'm not exactly sure what they mean by "(don't) portray her in situations with attire that might raise questions". They could be telling me to retroactively change her outfit in all of her events, or they could be saying in future events, her outfit should be changed.

In any case, I need to change her outfit.

Here's what I have so far.
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I think it looks nice, however it's the same outfit model that Autumn uses. I don't really have many outfits to choose from that would fit Ashley.

"If you ensure that Ashley looks more clearly an adult, either by developing her physique, or not portraying her in situations or with attire that might reaise questions regarding her age, that will suffice"

I'm sorry to say that, but as far as I understand it, they give you 3 choices: Either change her physical appearence, don't show her in questionable situations (of course they mean anything sexual), or change her behavior (they practically say she's behaving like a kid and should act more like an adult).
I don't see anything that implies that changing her clothes would be enough.

 

[RemiliaScarlett]

"If you ensure that Ashley looks more clearly an adult, either by developing her physique, or not portraying her in situations or with attire that might reaise questions regarding her age, that will suffice"

I'm sorry to say that, but as far as I understand it, they give you 3 choices: Either change her physical appearence, don't show her in questionable situations (of course they mean anything sexual), or change her behavior (they practically say she's behaving like a kid and should act more like an adult).
I don't see anything that implies that changing her clothes would be enough.

 

[recreation]

Well I guess thats another good example of how different languages can influence meanings. I thought attire means something else then clothes, probably mixed it with attitude too

 

[andy6915]

So... I like Ashley as she is. In fact, when her and Kali both flashed me and asked which I preferred, I picked Ashley's boobs. Yeah, she looks young. But you're playing a hentai game, with ALL SORTS of fetishes being pandered too. Is a jailbait fetish really crossing any sort of lines, especially when she actually is canonically of age? Seriously? That is just stupid. So count me as a vote for keeping her exactly as-is, and I will be disappointed if she is somehow made to LOOK older. Look being the key word, being that she isn't even illegal now either. If anything, it actually annoys me that someone can't look young without an outcry, reminds of that Austrailian law I heard of a few years ago that forbids porn where the woman has boobs that are considered "too small". It's like, what, women aren't allowed to be petite? Screw off with that crap.

 

[Graywolfe]

Well my 2 cents on the deal with Ashley is I bet they didn't think she was underage in the scene at the overlook. So you could use that outfit and hair style and they would probably be happy. I really liked how she looked there, way more than the previous look. You could even add a scene where she changes her hair and asks your about it like Lin did and get a choice on the hair. Of course that would a lot more work putting in a choice like that.

All in all I have thoroughly enjoyed the game and all the girls story lines. Every update just has been great and I am looking forward to the next ones. Oh and thank you for adding the threesomes the angle with Lucy was perfect.

 

[andy6915]

By the way, not to give anyone NEW ideas for censorship, but how is Ashley a problem but Lin isn't? Lin literally looks 15 at most, she looks younger than Ashley. Yes, she is actually hundreds of years old, but this is all about looks, as the people complaining about Ashley have admitted. If Lin is fine to be left alone with how she looks, so is Ashley.

Now if anyone uses this as justification to censor/age up Lin AND Ashley both, Imma gonna be irkeditated!

 

[RemiliaScarlett]

it's basically the schooluniform = schoolgirl = underage thought process i guess.
On another note, android IS technically a minor, how do you rule that patreon (i mean that trying to apply real world logic to fantasy game is pointless, the game is not promoting any bad behaviors (except trying to get a harem i guess xD) so leave it alone)

 

[andy6915]

So Patreon themselves are being assholes, how... Typical. Honestly, I would suggest finding an alternative platform and somehow convincing your Patrons to move with you. Patreon has done a lot of shitty things lately, and they have shown how freely they change the rules for different people on there depending on their politics. And they tend to be pretty authoritarian a lot of the time, especially with things like porn. You know, like they're being now. I know it's a lot to ask to just suggest changing platforms, but I do not trust Patreon by even a hairs width anymore. If they're going to get on your case and cramp your creative freedom, I say dump em.

 

[RemiliaScarlett]

Regarding the whole ashley issue, just changing her "base" outfit should be enough no? you could always have schoolgirl uniform for "roleplay" and stuff.

 

[andy6915]

Also, a cute and quick note. Been playing this game for a while now, and it seems my morning routine is to go and head pat Lin in the kitchen before I do anything else. I have done it every single day so far.

 

[RemiliaScarlett]

Also, a cute and quick note. Been playing this game for a while now, and it seems my morning routine is to go and head pat Lin in the kitchen before I do anything else. I have done it every single day so far.

 

[recreation]

So Patreon themselves are being assholes, how... Typical. Honestly, I would suggest finding an alternative platform and somehow convincing your Patrons to move with you. Patreon has done a lot of shitty things lately, and they have shown how freely they change the rules for different people on there depending on their politics. And they tend to be pretty authoritarian a lot of the time, especially with things like porn. You know, like they're being now. I know it's a lot to ask to just suggest changing platforms, but I do not trust Patreon by even a hairs width anymore. If they're going to get on your case and cramp your creative freedom, I say dump em.

To be fair, its not only Patreons fault. Paypal and other payment processors are at fault here. Patreon wouldn't even care if not for them and if this gio guy wouldn't have reported the game they wouldn't have investigated it. They are even talking to the people and give them a chance to change something. They could also go the total asshole route and just ban everything that doesn't fit their politics like others do.
Ashley is one of my favorite characters, but let's be honest, personal opinions aside, she does fit the underage role for haters quite perfectly.

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Lol, that was my dayly routine in TF^^

 

[andy6915]

You know, I finally figured out what this game reminds me of. Tomodachi Life, except an 18+ hentai version of it. In both, you own a hotel/apartment, you got a ton of renters who all have their own personalities and niches and relationships and everything else, and the game is you constantly checking on everyone and hanging out with them.

 

[andy6915]

Since she reminds me of them, with the white hair, being an android, and somewhat the way she dresses, I just named the android Yorha, from the Nier Automata game.

Also, I am torn on something. I can head pat her too, but that feels like I am betraying Lin. Should I keep head pats exclusive to Lin?