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宇宙人

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Why should he admit to your theory? Even if it would be the most plausible one - I neither thought about it and neither have I a favourite theory - until you proofed that your theory is more than a theory and even then, he wouldn't need to do that.
So, why do you "need" that acknowledgement from a random person on the internet so much?

His theory make sense. I think Kali and Luci have, obviously different opinion of it and Luci guess is based on her perception of Kali and not of the "real" Kali. Where Kali herself let some details out, oversell other or even invent some, same with all of us. The who we are, is not the who others see in us and surely also not the one we think we are.o_O
Alright, the so-called male prostitute theory was merely an extreme rationalization I proposed during the debate to refute others' claims that Kali lost her virginity to her ex-boyfriend.

I've consistently maintained that Kali and the protagonist were each other's first loves. The game explicitly depicts some girls as virgins, but Kali lacks such descriptions. I insist that if Kali were not a virgin, the game's narrative would fall into awkward contradictions. The author should have explicitly included a deflowering scene. My initial intent was to rally others to mock the author, but when someone proposed the speculative theory that “her ex-boyfriend took her virginity,” it sparked a debate. I then continually tried to construct a more plausible theory than theirs.
 
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宇宙人

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You make it sound like "an ex-boyfriend she never loved and who never gave her an orgasm" is somehow implausible, but I don't know why that would be. Never loved? Most boyfriends/girlfriends don't reach the point of loving each other (Maria was with her ex for years, and says they never loved each other). And if they weren't together for long, as I suggest, that becomes even more plausible. Never gave her an orgasm? Well, first, she never says that; she says only that she'd never had one through intercourse before--and there are other things guys can do, of course. Second, men failing to get their women off isn't exactly unheard-of.

So, yes, it's an assumption. So is your theory that she hired a male prostitute. As, for that matter, is Ninja's suggestion that Kali's just talking out her ass.


What does anyone's refusal to date anyone's ex have to do with anything?
Right, perhaps I didn't make myself clear—I should have said she wasn't dating the man she was seeing at the time, who later became her ex-boyfriend.



And I've noticed you're particularly keen on winning arguments.



You're off on another wild tangent. Inventing an ex-boyfriend for Carly—someone incapable of bringing her to climax during intercourse, yet able to do so with his hands alone? (Recall Carly mentioned only a penis could bring her to climax?)



You previously assumed this game world lacked male prostitutes altogether. So it stands to reason that some men simply cannot bring women to climax, doesn't it?
 
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Yeah, I wanted to make a joke about hoping the hotel gameplay updates don't involve having to pass a health inspection, but then this ridiculous argument happened.
 

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And I've noticed you're particularly keen on winning arguments.
One of us invented a theory he didn't believe in, presenting it as one he did believe in, solely for the purpose of arguing. It wasn't me. But yes, I'll argue my positions vigorously (and, I hope, clearly and honestly)--and run them into the ground in many cases. In that light, as to the rest of your post, I'll only say (again) that you need to work on your reading comprehension.
 
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And I've noticed you're particularly keen on winning arguments.
Dude, stop swinging the finger around for shit you are doing too. You're swinging for the fences for a theory you've admitted you don't even believe in and pulled out of your ass to contradict a theory that is common trope and still haven't presented any of this proof you keep referring to. Just stop. It doesn't matter. Go enjoy your Ashley Yandere Simulator and leave fans of other girls to themselves. It's that easy.
 

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Right then, so in those older versions Kali was indeed a virgin, but has that been altered now? Or something else entirely.
Not here to argue, just to clarify: in older versions there was no implication that Kali was a virgin.

What's been altered with Kali's storyline just has to do with how her relationship progresses with MC, with it having a more normal "meet -> hang out -> date -> sexy time -> more sexy time" progression.
 

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Alright, the so-called male prostitute theory was merely an extreme rationalization I proposed during the debate to refute others' claims that Kali lost her virginity to her ex-boyfriend.

I've consistently maintained that Kali and the protagonist were each other's first loves. The game explicitly depicts some girls as virgins, but Kali lacks such descriptions. I insist that if Kali were not a virgin, the game's narrative would fall into awkward contradictions. The author should have explicitly included a deflowering scene. My initial intent was to rally others to mock the author, but when someone proposed the speculative theory that “her ex-boyfriend took her virginity,” it sparked a debate. I then continually tried to construct a more plausible theory than theirs.
I just loaded up the first Kali sex scene and her dialog just in that scene contradicts herself.
Either Runey just got sloppy with the dialog or Kali is lying about needing cock to orgasm.
The scene:
Kali is masturbating but can't get off.
She finds the MC and says
"I have a hard time cumming, or whatever.."
"Nothing really seems to work."
"Except for..."
"Cock..."
She then asks him to help with that and says that she's just using his dick.
She gets on top and starts having sex, and says "Mmmm, it's been so long since I had a cock".
But she can't get herself to cum she gets frustrated and says "It's never going to happen, I just can't cum".
Then the MC puts her on the bottom and starts having sex, which she then orgasms from.
She then says "Like holy shit, I've never cum from sex before."

That line doesn't fit with her previous statement that she needs cock to cum.
But all the statements definitely indicate that she has had sex before, the scene is consistent there.
The contradiction within the scene is whether she did or did not cum from previous "cock" sex.

She definitely could have been lying initially about needing Cock in order to cum. Maybe she wanted to fuck the MC and made that up to play it off as just wanting to use him to cum, since she hid her actual feelings for so long.
But the line mid-sex where she says "it's been so long since I had a cock" doesn't feel like a lie.
At that point she's fucking him, if she initially lied to get him to fuck her then there isn't any reason to lie about not having cock for so long once she's fucking him.
And the line after they had sex where she is clearly shaken and excited that she was able to orgasm with sex: "Like holy shit, I've never cum from sex before."
That line definitely looks like she is being honest, and it also makes clear that she's had sex in the past.

Then the next scene where she and Lin are talking about the MC Kali talks about them having sex and that she has a hard time cumming. Kali says: "I always have a hard time cumming. I think it's because I try to always take control."
There's no reason for her to lie to Lin about this.

So I think it's pretty clear that she has had sex in the past and I think it's most likely that she wasn't able to cum in the past when she had sex. In spite of her statement that she needs Cock to cum. Her post-sex statement about never cumming from sex before just rings too true and her conversation with Lin where she had no reason to lie.

Replaying the Lucia/Kali scene where Lucia talks about Kali losing her virginity, it doesn't give any indication that it was to the MC.
Lucia just says "It's a shame that my big sister lost her virginity and I still haven't".
That would just as well fit if she is referring to Kali having lost her virginity some time in the past to a previous guy.
All Lucia is saying is that it's a shame that Kali is not a virgin and Lucia still is.

Lucia also mentions a previous boyfriend that Kali had, so there was definitely at least one previous boyfriend before the MC for Kali.


Personally I don't care at all how many boyfriends Kali might have had in the past or that she wasn't a virgin with the MC.
I love her character and those are irrelevant.
 
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I don’t know why this is complicated. The girl who buys toys online, doesn’t interact much at all with the other gender, knows she needs a cock to cum.

She used dildo’s. Apparently used one enough to wear it out, or lost it in the move, whatever. You don’t require an actual dick to experience penetration orgasms.

Mystery solved

oh, and she’s had sex at least once. That’s not unbelievable… though the people yelling at each other over this… I’m not so sure.
 
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  File "tl/schinese/script.rpyc", line 90740, in script
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 721, in execute
    renpy.exports.say(who, what, *args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/exports.py", line 1419, in say
    who(what, *args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/character.py", line 1249, in __call__
    self.do_display(who, what, cb_args=self.cb_args, dtt=dtt, **display_args)
  File "renpy/character.py", line 901, in do_display
    **display_args)
  File "renpy/character.py", line 647, in display_say
    rv = renpy.ui.interact(mouse='say', type=type, roll_forward=roll_forward)
  File "renpy/ui.py", line 298, in interact
    rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3325, in interact
    repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, pause=pause, pause_start=pause_start, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3839, in interact_core
    self.draw_screen(root_widget, fullscreen_video, (not fullscreen_video) or video_frame_drawn)
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2565, in draw_screen
    renpy.config.screen_height,
  File "render.pyx", line 492, in renpy.display.render.render_screen
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 826, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 826, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 826, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 688, in render
    child = renpy.display.render.render(self.child, w, h, st, at)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 826, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1264, in render
    st, at)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 826, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/text/text.py", line 2096, in render
    virtual_layout = Layout(self, width, height, renders, drawable_res=False, size_only=True)
  File "renpy/text/text.py", line 610, in __init__
    self.paragraphs = self.segment(text.tokens, style, renders, text)
  File "renpy/text/text.py", line 1259, in segment
    raise Exception("Unknown text tag %r" % text)
Exception: Unknown text tag u'linoname!t'

Windows-10-10.0.26100
Ren'Py 7.4.11.2266
Harem Hotel v0.19.1
Thu Oct 23 19:49:35 2025
 

torresm

Well-Known Member
Apr 5, 2020
1,178
2,585
386
Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While processing text tag {linoname!t} in u'\u55ef!{linoname!t},Master,\u662f\u7684.\u554a!Master!\u55ef!'.:
Exception: Unknown text tag u'linoname!t'

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

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  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 131, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 131, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "script.rpyc", line 21006, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 131, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 131, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 131, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 131, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 131, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 131, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 131, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "scripts/Garden/GardenScripts.rpyc", line 151, in script call
  File "script.rpyc", line 21006, in script call
  File "tl/schinese/script.rpyc", line 90740, in script
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 721, in execute
    renpy.exports.say(who, what, *args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/exports.py", line 1419, in say
    who(what, *args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/character.py", line 1249, in __call__
    self.do_display(who, what, cb_args=self.cb_args, dtt=dtt, **display_args)
  File "renpy/character.py", line 901, in do_display
    **display_args)
  File "renpy/character.py", line 647, in display_say
    rv = renpy.ui.interact(mouse='say', type=type, roll_forward=roll_forward)
  File "renpy/ui.py", line 298, in interact
    rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3325, in interact
    repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, pause=pause, pause_start=pause_start, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3839, in interact_core
    self.draw_screen(root_widget, fullscreen_video, (not fullscreen_video) or video_frame_drawn)
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2565, in draw_screen
    renpy.config.screen_height,
  File "render.pyx", line 492, in renpy.display.render.render_screen
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 826, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 826, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 826, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 688, in render
    child = renpy.display.render.render(self.child, w, h, st, at)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 826, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1264, in render
    st, at)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 826, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/text/text.py", line 2096, in render
    virtual_layout = Layout(self, width, height, renders, drawable_res=False, size_only=True)
  File "renpy/text/text.py", line 610, in __init__
    self.paragraphs = self.segment(text.tokens, style, renders, text)
  File "renpy/text/text.py", line 1259, in segment
    raise Exception("Unknown text tag %r" % text)
Exception: Unknown text tag u'linoname!t'

Windows-10-10.0.26100
Ren'Py 7.4.11.2266
Harem Hotel v0.19.1
Thu Oct 23 19:49:35 2025
Did you download the full game or just the update?
 

Bozeman75

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Strictly speaking, this would be true if she'd never had sex before--but the rest of the dialogue you cite really doesn't fit that possibility.
In practical grammatical terms - no.
If I am playing darts and hit a bullseye and then say "I never hit a bullseye before" that plainly indicates that I've tried to hit a bullseye before but been unsuccessful.
So when she says "Like holy shit, I've never cum from sex before." that's plainly indicating that she's had sex before but been unable to cum.

That sentence structure has an implied part "I never did X (when I tried to do X) before".

Sorry, the grammar pedant in me couldn't not comment.. :)
 
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danb35

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That sentence structure has an implied part "I never did X (when I tried to do X) before".
Yes--implied. That sentence would also be true if she had never had sex. It strongly implies she'd had sex (as do other comments), to the point where I believe she had (so no, I'm not arguing that she was a virgin until MC), but it is true (if arguably misleading) if she hadn't.
 

B_A_R

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I made a fresh installation of the game (deleted all files in appdata folder and downloaded full version). But after starting a new game, I struggle with unhandled exception every few frames. Any idea how to fix that?

Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
TypeError: 'bool' object is not callable

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "script.rpyc", line 785, in script
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 721, in execute
    renpy.exports.say(who, what, *args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/exports.py", line 1419, in say
    who(what, *args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/character.py", line 1249, in __call__
    self.do_display(who, what, cb_args=self.cb_args, dtt=dtt, **display_args)
  File "renpy/character.py", line 901, in do_display
    **display_args)
  File "renpy/character.py", line 647, in display_say
    rv = renpy.ui.interact(mouse='say', type=type, roll_forward=roll_forward)
  File "renpy/ui.py", line 298, in interact
    rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3325, in interact
    repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, pause=pause, pause_start=pause_start, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3814, in interact_core
    if renpy.display.draw.update(force=self.display_reset):
TypeError: 'bool' object is not callable

Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.11.2266
Harem Hotel v0.19.1
Fri Oct 24 01:45:47 2025
 

wookie ookie

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Aug 30, 2021
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I made a fresh installation of the game (deleted all files in appdata folder and downloaded full version). But after starting a new game, I struggle with unhandled exception every few frames. Any idea how to fix that?

Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
TypeError: 'bool' object is not callable

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "script.rpyc", line 785, in script
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 721, in execute
    renpy.exports.say(who, what, *args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/exports.py", line 1419, in say
    who(what, *args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/character.py", line 1249, in __call__
    self.do_display(who, what, cb_args=self.cb_args, dtt=dtt, **display_args)
  File "renpy/character.py", line 901, in do_display
    **display_args)
  File "renpy/character.py", line 647, in display_say
    rv = renpy.ui.interact(mouse='say', type=type, roll_forward=roll_forward)
  File "renpy/ui.py", line 298, in interact
    rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3325, in interact
    repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, pause=pause, pause_start=pause_start, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3814, in interact_core
    if renpy.display.draw.update(force=self.display_reset):
TypeError: 'bool' object is not callable

Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.11.2266
Harem Hotel v0.19.1
Fri Oct 24 01:45:47 2025
What site did you download from, are you using full, compressed, or update only
 
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wookie ookie

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I don't know if I seen that error here before. Slim chance it might be possible that the file was corrupt maybe try downloading from different site.

This is the error

The TypeError: 'bool' object is not callable in Python indicates that you are attempting to call a boolean value (either True or False) as if it were a function. This error typically arises from one of the following scenarios:

Overwriting a function name with a boolean value: You might have a variable that shares the same name as a function, and you accidentally assigned a boolean value to that variable. When you then try to call the function using its original name, Python finds the boolean variable instead and raises the error.
 
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sleepingkirby

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It's hard to tell what line of code that's doing that from the .rpyc. Put this file into the same directory as the script.rpyc that's causing the error and try to reproduce the game error (or, conversely, extract the same script.rpy from scripts.rpa if you know how).


If the error happens again, it should give a traceback with something useful like which line of code and what that line of code is for someone to troubleshoot with.
 
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