VN Ren'Py Heart Problems [v0.9] [Xenorav]

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hzjujk

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Dr. Tom said:
Guys, I completely agree with you. A lot of what is normal in this type of game would be rape in real life. That is absolutely clear.
But games like this, especially in a forum like this, always have a certain artistic freedom, because a fantasy is being described that under no circumstances should be imitated in real life. But I also don't want to say that everything should be allowed just because it's a fantasy. Some of the games here are really disturbing.

So, I agree with you, somedude321 and botc76 and many others here that this actions shown in such games would not be allowed in real life. But to get so stuck on this game, even though there are much, much worse games here, somehow leads to nothing.
Because of simple reason: the people you want to convince, that this is a sensitive subject and that as an author you have to be careful with such depictions, have long been convinced. And you won't convince the others, who don't understand that anyway, even with 20 more posts.
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Such games as are available for download and discussed always cross boundaries, for example, those of good taste and morally appropriate behavior. The scenes shown in this game are not only morally inappropriate and would correctly lead to drastic punishments in the real world.
No one should question that such actions are allowed in games. It is fantasy and not real world. I also played cowboys and Indians with pistols as a child and shot a lot of my comrades. :devilish:
But, and I want to say this clearly, a rape in a game must also be called so.
I don't consider the scene in a game to be problematic, but the people who then "talk up" this scene. And look in the texts and pictures for the smallest signs that the woman wanted it after all. At this point I will always disagree strongly.
 
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hzjujk said:
But, and I want to say this clearly, a rape in a game must also be called so.
I don't consider the scene in a game to be problematic, but the people who then "talk up" this scene. And look in the texts and pictures for the smallest signs that the woman wanted it after all. At this point I will always disagree strongly.
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Couldn't agree more.
 
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WubbA_Wob said:
Somewhat unrelated topic, but I gotta ask. What is the program(s) used that is responsible for these eye-catching 3DCGs, like in this game, but also for most of all other 3DCG VN's. It's definitely not Ren'py no?

I've encountered and played some of this VN's and the "visual" aspect of the game (i.e. the character designs), is what usually caught my attention.

P.S. Hopefully I'm not breaking any rules by simply asking this. If it is, I would gladly remove this comment.
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the characters are made in DAZ 3D
 
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Lucifel

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anyone know why I can't download from mixdrop? it just throws a thousand ads, all of which are dangeous as hell, at me then times out
 
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Lucifel

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Yes, I turned that off to see if that would make something actually work and it didn't. I just got a bunch of blocked links because firefox was freaking out. It still just shat out ads and then times out with adblock turned off.
Also, if this is how mixdrop always behaves why on earth does anyone use this abortion of a file sharing website?
 
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Avenjq

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Jericho85 said:
I'm a little confused by this. If you don't think this dev wants to depict rape, then how would you categorize Stephanie sneaking into the room and playing with the MC's cock while he's asleep and blackmailing him into sex acts. Where exactly is the line drawn?

Would it be different if MC went into Amelie's room and rubbed his cock on her while she was passed out drunk? In fact, A lot of the earlier content with Amelie was actually MC taking quite a bit of liberties with rubbing his cock on her while he thinks she doesn't notice or assumes that she's "letting him". Approaching her with his cock out to see how she reacts... Groping her when she clearly expresses to him that it's making her uncomfortable. In most parts of the world, those things would fall cleanly into the category of sexual assault.

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Also don't forget that the abandoned original version of this VN did have a sleep rape scene:

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The groping liberties, the cock rubbing, the spying, Stephanie's sexual blackmail, MC trying to penetrate Kylee immediately after she expressly tells him "NO!", etc... All that stuff is recurring themes of this VN. Even if you believed that none of that is rape, I have a hard time believing that a victim of those acts would agree. MC is constantly pushing boundaries and trying to cross lines, even after objections from the LI.

And if the Dev thinks constantly pressuring Amelie with sexual harassment until she gives in is "romantic", then he's got a pretty fucked up view of romance lol.
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Homie you should read some romance novels written by women ... also a lot of women have a rape fantasy ... way more than men. So chill out. Its not real life.
 
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Can anyone help me, my game is not launching & it's not showing up in the task manager eithere.The version that I previously played had no problem like this. There are also in some of my games things like this like "Raptus"
 
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Jericho85

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Avenjq said:
Homie you should read some romance novels written by women ... also a lot of women have a rape fantasy ... way more than men. So chill out. Its not real life.
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No shit. But I think you're responding out of context. I agree that they're rape fantasies. That's literally the point I was making. I was responding to the idea that the dev wasn't trying to portray rape. I obviously disagree with that. There's really no other way you can categorize it when the MC fucks the buttcheeks of a woman who is passed out drunk.

I'm not complaining about the content of Heart Problems though I do have more vanilla tastes. Rape/molestation content does NOT appeal to me. But I can watch a slasher film without having gore/murder fantasies, and I can play a VN containing rape fantasies without identifying with those fantasies. I don't play Heart Problems for the storytelling (I really doubt anyone does), I play it for the pixel titties and the Kylee booty (It really is top tier craftmanship). But let's not rationalize the content in Heart Problems as some misunderstood edgy romance. Call a spade a spade.
 
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