VN Ren'Py Heart Problems [v0.9] [Xenorav]

[darcksider02]

I don't get why the blame always goes to the devs.
If I can make game as good as this, it's my right to milk everything out.
They need to enjoy life. Creating games is stresful.

The blame should've go the patrons for paying him when they already knew the facts.

first of all hello, how are you doing? I understand what you are saying, but when you charge for a product you have a start date and an end date. After that do whatever you want. But if you are going to cut yourself during the creation or you are going to delay the delivery time, you do not have it, you must give compensation for your delay. We all have a life, but when you get paid to do something your priority is to deliver the final product in a timely manner. I repeat, later you can go to Antarctica with the penguins if you want, but blaming the sponsor is already too much.

 

[elpibedeoro1]

I don't get why the blame always goes to the devs.
If I can make game as good as this, it's my right to milk everything out.
They need to enjoy life. Creating games is stresful.

The blame should've go the patrons for paying him when they already knew the facts.

When someone suscribes to you, they pay you for something you are oferring. Its a contract.
If you offer "weekly updates" or release dates and you dont deliver, you are breaking your own clauses. This opens you the possibility to reclaim your money on court, but I doubt someone will go that far.
So, no you dont have the right to be a milker if you promise weekly updates and release dates.

 

[Masal15]

When someone suscribes to you, they pay you for something you are oferring. Its a contract.
If you offer "weekly updates" or release dates and you dont deliver, you are breaking your own clauses. This opens you the possibility to reclaim your money on court, but I doubt someone will go that far.
So, no you dont have the right to be a milker if you promise weekly updates and release dates.

I think, for this time, i know that dev has suspended the patron's payment for a few months.
But in any case, i'm totally agree with you.

The abandoned tag is coming guys!

 

[starkj]

Just the thought of probably not getting more scenes with one of the hottest woman ( Amelie ) in any AVN makes me sad. I just cant get enough of that juicy ass.

 

[ronin98kaiser]

when the mods are going to put the abandoned tag? this guy been disapearing for 2 years , giving every time more unreal excuses.

 

[herlam]

when the mods are going to put the abandoned tag? this guy been disapearing for 2 years , giving every time more unreal excuses.

Come on if you write something do a simple search... last update 9 months ago and last post in patreon 2 months ago...

 

[SirLynx]

When someone suscribes to you, they pay you for something you are oferring. Its a contract.
If you offer "weekly updates" or release dates and you dont deliver, you are breaking your own clauses. This opens you the possibility to reclaim your money on court, but I doubt someone will go that far.
So, no you dont have the right to be a milker if you promise weekly updates and release dates.

You still don't understand. It's HIS game.
he can choose not to update.
or choose to not paying attention to you.
or choose to enjoy drinks in beach.
or get drunk.

who on earth you think you are making a "contract" with him.
it's your money, if you still pay him, you're the idiot, and he's the winner, getting money from idiots.

EDIT. I'll even go as far as giving you another example.
you gave $10 to buy weeds from stranger online, and he disappear.
would you gave another $10 to buy from this guy again? that's all. now you can tell me who's the idiot.

 

[SirLynx]

Hello to you too, and honestly, no need for small talk.

first of all hello, how are you doing? I understand what you are saying, but when you charge for a product you have a start date and an end date. After that do whatever you want. But if you are going to cut yourself during the creation or you are going to delay the delivery time, you do not have it, you must give compensation for your delay. We all have a life, but when you get paid to do something your priority is to deliver the final product in a timely manner. I repeat, later you can go to Antarctica with the penguins if you want, but blaming the sponsor is already too much.

nope, that's just made me an unfaithful developers if I did that. With the risk of losing patrons in mind.
but devs already got your money, so he can do whatever he want. No law will prevent that.
the idiots still be the patrons, knowing 9 months without update and still paying him.

 

[kdy18]

Hello to you too, and honestly, no need for small talk.



nope, that's just made me an unfaithful developers if I did that. With the risk of losing patrons in mind.
but devs already got your money, so he can do whatever he want. No law will prevent that.
the idiots still be the patrons, knowing 9 months without update and still paying him.

Let's imagine this situation: all the "idiots" suddenly (after hearing you) became smart - what will happen?

 

[SirLynx]

Let's imagine this situation: all the "idiots" suddenly (after hearing you) became smart - what will happen?

other idiots from other game will come and give theirs.

 

[Deleted member 7636288]

Let's imagine this situation: all the "idiots" suddenly (after hearing you) became smart - what will happen?

They'll stop getting screwed over. They'll stop supporting Devs who lie, milk, scam etc. Devs might just feel inclined to actually finish their game and stick to the words they tell their paying fans/customers/supporters.

They need the money, if no money is going their way, what do you think will happen?

 

[kdy18]

They need the money, if no money is going their way, what do you think will happen?

The developer will abandon the game for which they do not pay.

 

[mlgtk]

yall boys lose faith too fast, LET HIM COOOOOK!!!!!!

 

[schmonk]

I think Xeno is working on the update but it takes him longer as expected (as per usual). But he doesn't want to come back with an excuse again so he's waiting to finish and then drop the final version of 0.9 instantly.

 

[kadgilek]

I think Xeno is working on the update but it takes him longer as expected (as per usual). But he doesn't want to come back with an excuse again so he's waiting to finish and then drop the final version of 0.9 instantly.
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and the dudes in the jail are working on his ass too and it takes them longer

and the funny part that he has hemorrhoids

he can't escape his karma

 

[MrBaitor]

When someone suscribes to you, they pay you for something you are oferring. Its a contract.
If you offer "weekly updates" or release dates and you dont deliver, you are breaking your own clauses. This opens you the possibility to reclaim your money on court, but I doubt someone will go that far.
So, no you dont have the right to be a milker if you promise weekly updates and release dates.

It's more of a moral contract than an actual contract legally speaking. When you subscribe to a creator by paying money, you basically donate your money on your own free will so that he can provide you his product which you like and you want to continue to see more of it. No court will give you back any money because of that. It's a donation plain and simple.
Whether you continue to support this or any other guy it's really up to you. You are not bound by any contract as he is not bound by it either.

 

[jsmvurejp]

Ideally, here's how crowdfunding renpy, AVN and the like should work:

• devs MUST establish a deadline for the next release before they start working on it, and clearly communicate it to patrons;
• they should ONLY be allowed to postpone the deadline THRICE, for a pre-defined amount of time (e.g. 1 month)
• after each delay, they lose 25% of the amount they receive monthly (i.e. 1st=75%, 2nd=50%, 3rd=25%, 4th & beyond=no pay at all) until they finally realease an update

The way it is now, unless they start losing subs/patrons, the fucks have little incentive to keep updating and actually working on their games. Rather, they're encouraged to milk them like they're sucking on Amelie's mega-tits

 

[Sparhawker]

ok, so quick question, for the end of chapter 8 when Amelie finally allows more oral, is it normal for the game to crash at the end ? Seems it went to a screen saying Heart Problems first but then came up with the traceback screen and not allowed a save to be created.....I guess I'll have to suffer through that whole scene in Amelie's bed again when/if the next update comes out.

 

[Chinwiskers]

ok, so quick question, for the end of chapter 8 when Amelie finally allows more oral, is it normal for the game to crash at the end ? Seems it went to a screen saying Heart Problems first but then came up with the traceback screen and not allowed a save to be created.....I guess I'll have to suffer through that whole scene in Amelie's bed again when/if the next update comes out.

You should put a spoiler tag in there my friend.

 

[Acsuka]

ok, so quick question, for the end of chapter 8 when Amelie finally allows more oral, is it normal for the game to crash at the end ? Seems it went to a screen saying Heart Problems first but then came up with the traceback screen and not allowed a save to be created.....I guess I'll have to suffer through that whole scene in Amelie's bed again when/if the next update comes out.

It's not just your game that crashed... We have too... We've been waiting for the update for so long...