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aruzen19

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I'll bite.
Fanboys will be fanboys.
Your words would make sense if this was 2 years old game, but it's not, this game is 4 years old already & 4 years is more than enough to finish a game, while this game is not even close to getting finished and it will take at least 2-4 years to finish it at this point, that's too long for a any game to getting developt, especially game like this, without any grand story and not too many love interests, you can check games like Eternum, it has problems for sure, no game is perfect, but it's doing far better job than this one, with very good lore, and lots of love interests yet doing good progress with the development, story, and the girls, that's how you developt a game, not this mess, 4 years with no-real progress with two main girls is unacceptable, accepting this only means you are fanboy for the DEV, sure be fanboy as much you want, but when you act people with common sense who give valid criticism the game or rant their disappointment with the messy development is wrong, say them ''haters'' just because of it, say they are wrong for not being faboy and your fanboy act is right that's where the problem starts, opinions exist for a reason, but you don't release you have very bad opinion and think your very bad opinion is a fact, get a reality check buddy :coffee:


I suggest no one ignore people who giving valid criticism, in fact they should ignore fanboys like you or him, and I will be taking my own advice and ignore both of you as well, since you guys doing nothing and only praising the DEV here for no reason. Keep being fanboy, but don't wait everyone will be like you, at least not the people with common sense.

So, it’s been four years, and the game hasn’t really changed in the way you wanted, which makes it a bad game for you, right? Maybe instead of complaining, you could just move on and let the folks who enjoy it have their fun. Have you thought about how your opinion is different from a lot of others who think the game is just fine? It’s got a ton of adult content, and yeah, the progression is slow with just Stephanie and Amelie, but there are a bunch of high-quality lewd scenes with them and others. I get it; I’ve had my fair share of frustrating slow progression games too, and I’m not a big fan of them either, but this one feels different. The sneaky lewd scenes, with the thrill of possibly getting caught doing stuff like blowjobs, titjobs, and tightjobs with those two characters are just so hot that it’s hard to say the game is just blueballing anyone.
 

Sony676

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So, it’s been four years, and the game hasn’t really changed in the way you wanted, which makes it a bad game for you, right? Maybe instead of complaining, you could just move on and let the folks who enjoy it have their fun. Have you thought about how your opinion is different from a lot of others who think the game is just fine? It’s got a ton of adult content, and yeah, the progression is slow with just Stephanie and Amelie, but there are a bunch of high-quality lewd scenes with them and others. I get it; I’ve had my fair share of frustrating slow progression games too, and I’m not a big fan of them either, but this one feels different. The sneaky lewd scenes, with the thrill of possibly getting caught doing stuff like blowjobs, titjobs, and tightjobs with those two characters are just so hot that it’s hard to say the game is just blueballing anyone.
I think it's not about the progress itself but more about the behavior of the dev with his empty promises. When he would've stayed true to his words we would get an update every three months instead of one per year. And delivering one per year brings way more frustration to the people who actually enjoy the content. It's just a little over 1000 renders which is a joke for one year. That's more of the issue if you ask me.
 

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I think it's not about the progress itself but more about the behavior of the dev with his empty promises. When he would've stayed true to his words we would get an update every three months instead of one per year. And delivering one per year brings way more frustration to the people who actually enjoy the content. It's just a little over 1000 renders which is a joke for one year. That's more of the issue if you ask me.
You were subscribers, he has make empty promises to you ? Stop paying, it's like your girlfriend just cheated on you.
1000 renders but the quality is top tiers in this one
 
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aruzen19

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I think it's not about the progress itself but more about the behavior of the dev with his empty promises. When he would've stayed true to his words we would get an update every three months instead of one per year. And delivering one per year brings way more frustration to the people who actually enjoy the content. It's just a little over 1000 renders which is a joke for one year. That's more of the issue if you ask me.

I don’t know, maybe it’s because I haven’t spent four years waiting for a game to drop each chapter. But it doesn’t seem fair to call the game bad just for that. There are so many other games to play in the meantime! The quality of this game is really good, so I don’t mind the late updates, as long as it keeps that quality and stays “alive” instead of getting abandoned like a lot of other AVNs do. I get that the dev doesn’t communicate much with his supporters, and we don’t know what’s going on in his life, but seriously, does that really make it a bad game?
 
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Sony676

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You were subscribers, he has make empty promises to you ? Stop paying, it's like your girlfriend just cheated on you.
1000 renders but the quality is top tiers in this one
I for myself only support devs as a patron (or whatever) that seem trustworthy to me. I am patron to some but Xenorav 100% is none of them.

I don’t know, maybe it’s because I haven’t spent four years waiting for a game to drop each chapter. But it doesn’t seem fair to call the game bad just for that. There are so many other games to play in the meantime! The quality of this game is really good, so I don’t mind the late updates, as long as it keeps that quality and stays “alive” instead of getting abandoned like a lot of other AVNs do. I get that the dev doesn’t communicate much with his supporters, and we don’t know what’s going on in his life, but seriously, does that really make it a bad game?
I never ever said it's a bad game. Don't have a sig from it for nothing. Quality-wise one of the best games. Still: The dev is as lazy as they come and doesn't try to change his behavior. From BADIK I'm already used to at least wait a year for an update but at least it offers somewhat around 8000 renders or more (even though I still think someone of HIS popularity finally should hire people but I know he won't). When it comes to Xenorav my biggest issue is his communication that sometimes spreads false hopes and randomly he goes radio silent for months. Normally this game is bound to be abandoned at some point but as long as so many people still decide to pay he might make it sometime in 2034.
 

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I think it's not about the progress itself but more about the behavior of the dev with his empty promises. When he would've stayed true to his words we would get an update every three months instead of one per year. And delivering one per year brings way more frustration to the people who actually enjoy the content. It's just a little over 1000 renders which is a joke for one year. That's more of the issue if you ask me.
100% - I can see your POV. This is a legitimate criticism. However, some of the people are saying it is a bad update, which is just not true. And that was my point. Maybe the Dev is not updating the game as frequently as he used to anymore and that is a valid point, but there is nothing wrong with the pacing of the game.

Personally, I do not really follow devs very closely. As long as a game is not abandoned and if an update arrives, it's enjoyable, I'm happy. Up until the game was abandoned, I did not even notice the dev slowing down. Pretty much all the games I really rate high, are taking months in between updates (Eternum - 6 months, Being a Dik - 9 months, Pale Carnations - 6 months, Long Story Short 6 months etc. etc.) So This game just slotted in my other list that I play when a new update rolls out. I don't really care about Dev promises Patreon posts etc.
 

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1 buyer + 1 dollar + time of development = profit
The better the game, the higher these numbers go. It would be great if time stayed the same but the profit drops if they give it away too quickly.
And it's a really good game.
I don't make the rules.
 

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do u no how many well it go up to ?
Not sure I read correctly, but you are asking how many chapters till the end?

I would say the game is past the hallway point. There are only 2 girls left to conquer (3/5)

Not sure how long the dev wants to continue the story once all of the ladies are you lovers.

But my guess is the game is between 50-60% complete. so maybe 15-20 chapters in total? and is now up to 9.
 

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Update 091624 : I'm updating it gimme some time. Thx

Hi guys,

I made a replay mod for this game:

Gallery Mod:
Update date
: 10.11.23
Game version : Heart problems CH8
PS : First time you play the gallery, input your name and the relations (click on the first thumbnail).

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Feedbacks are welcome ! ;) Oh and if you think that I have missed some scenes, let me know.
I'm updating it, gimme some time guys. No idea why the mods remove the link to it in the OP...

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Malvavisco

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The developer suspends payments to Patreon when development is delayed. If he collects cream, it is from a fat cow, which he feeds generously with hay.
I definitely don’t agree with that at all. This game has been in development for over 4 years. Sure, people playing it for the first time now are amazed, but those who started back in version 2 or 3 and have been waiting for a sex scene with Amelie have been PAYING FOR OVER 4 YEARS just to get disappointed over and over again. Let’s not fool ourselves—we all know no one really cares about the younger cousin, and the middle cousin is only there to give you something to masturbate to, while they keep milking money with the Amelie cliffhanger. The game is good, but this practice is trash. No decent developer would approve of this, and we should be stopping it from happening.

Now the game is in version 0.9, and the last update will likely be the sex scene with Amelie, but then what? I would have preferred to see that first scene in version 0.8 and then have this and the next two updates focused on developing the story and characters further, with more detailed scenes. Not dragging it all out just to squeeze as much money as possible with a single final scene. As backers of Xeno, we should be penalizing this.
 

Malvavisco

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Not sure I read correctly, but you are asking how many chapters till the end?

I would say the game is past the hallway point. There are only 2 girls left to conquer (3/5)

Not sure how long the dev wants to continue the story once all of the ladies are you lovers.

But my guess is the game is between 50-60% complete. so maybe 15-20 chapters in total? and is now up to 9.
??¿? version 0.9 and then version 1.0 and finished right? how do u know is about 50% or 60% i didnt see anything like that in his patreon...
 

Malvavisco

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I'm not really into Dev drama, so I don't know the small details. I could be totally wrong and possible mix up different devs, but I think the dev is Russian and it possible relates to the Ukraine-Russian war. I did read his post about a month ago when I first saw the abandoned tag. Will link the post if I can find it.

https://f95zone.to/threads/heart-problems-v0-9-xenorav.63437/post-14808997
i think he is spanish or from latam, i dont know why u say Russian xd, you invent everything or what
 
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