Ren'Py Heavenly Peaks Cultivation [v2.98] [My Big Little Brother]

[Deleted member 107261]

Dafuk?
Here i was waiting the game to have some content to try and play it since I love xinxia and then i read this .
Seems it isn't yet the moment I can enjoy a "cultivation" game.
Well to the ignore list it goes then, NTR is a deal breaker for me, avoidable or not and seems this one is forced yikes.
Anyway GL with the game for the dev.



I really like Isekai too but honestly I'm getting bored of animes, it's rare the one we're your mc kill any enemy for example that's why they keep coming again and again, it almost always the same things in anime, protagonist don't kill anyone, protagonist is a simp, pushover etc of course not every anime is like that but when it isn't it's close to it, then i started to watch donghua and I'm liking it much more, it's a complete Diference in protagonist behaviours. I don't read novel so i can't help you but if you watch anime you can watch donghua. You have douluo Dalu aka "soul land", doupo cangqiong aka "battle through heavens" these are 2 of my favorites.

Hello, developer here.

The game doesn't feature NTR. That review is basically just some guy who was angry that I wouldn't take all of the 32 suggestions he made and implement them 2 minutes after he made them.

NTR, by definition is this :
In Japanese, netori 寝取り means "sleeping with someone else's partner," be it their girlfriend, boyfriend, wife, husband, or even someone who's not really their partner, like their childhood friend, or something like that.

Definition # 2:
Cuckold - related,

A man who finds arousement in watching his girlfriend/wife having sex with another man.


The summary of what is being touted as "forced" or mandatory NTR sums up to this. There's a viscous entity that attacks other spirits and consumes them for energy. He normally kills them, but he gives 1 or 2 the option to become his sex toys (or death).

In order to avoid death, Syphii agrees to sleep with him occasionally and in turn he will allow her to stay in his territory undisturbed.

Syphii is not in a relationship with the main character, nor are they bonded. You just happen to walk up on her getting railed at one point.



Lastly, this same person made a huge stink about developing their character, claiming that the points were "wasted".

As I explained to them then, it matters very little how you invest your talent points during the prologue. (But...apparently this was just seen as an excuse, and not an actual answer to the question). I recommend you focus on Str+Spd or Agl+Focus builds if it matters to you. Weapon play has not been implemented, and therefore would be less useful. Regardless of what you invest your points in, you grow stronger simply through the act of moving to another rank as well. By the time you reach Azure rank, it's much easier to kill any of the creatures you come across.

(Especially since I retooled combat to support rank differences between yourself and your opponents.)


Since mid-may the game now has in-game information about many aspects of gameplay, and the info they requested has always been present on the Patreon page by way of a manual (even before their original complaints). So in reality most of the negative comments you see here and there are actually from people who felt I should just adhere to everything they suggested and disregard my own plans for my own project. When I politely declined - well you can see the results here.

As a result of all their vitriol, I decided on not using this community too much anymore. There's tons of ways to get my project out there, at the end of the day why stick around to be abused by irrational people who refuse to listen to common sense? Even when i spent hours explaining what I said to you here, to them. I flatly and resolutely decline to deal with that sort of behavior, if I'm honest.

Anyway -

Last thing I will address is that the out of order events come from spending too much time training and not advancing. (Or atleast they did.)

In the past, If you haven't ranked up prior to early February, (around the time you're supposed to meet Yenay) then you *did* run the risk of screwing your game up. Old saves where this occurred cannot be fixed.

I have patched the issue as far back as May of this year. In summary, don't get too hung up on building your character early (you have room to experiment and it's not like you lose anything) - there are actually many more aspects of character development that have yet to be introduced. And that's all coming during Academy days.

 

[Deleted member 107261]

Where is Syphii located?

Syphii is a character you can meet by advancing the story a bit. At some point she comes to the hut and begins to stay with you occasionally.

It occurs around the time that Guobei decides to help you with "special training".

 

[Deleted member 107261]

Also in regards to a few other comments. I've had a pretty clear idea of where the project is going since I started with it so- right now, I have no intention of quitting - unless, I die or something which I admit could always happen. I have a pretty clear idea of the project's overall story - the main antagonists and so on.

Now that my financial situation is changing, I can do more. Addressing more of the concerns in this threat, the reason my game has so few followers is that its purposeful --I haven't been attempting to grow it for the better part of 5-6 months now. The reason for that was simple, I have always had a specific way I wanted to build this project, which involves building the foundation first, making it stable then worrying about growth. Now that the project is in a better place, I plan on growing it as I always intended, it just took a bit longer than I would have liked.

For a bit of perspective, I built a unique game engine for this , from scratch while simultaneously learning Python, Ren'py script and the ins and out of using Ren'py to build games. Beneath the hood, it's a lot more than pretty pictures and I've easily hand written over 30,000 lines of code specifically for this project in the past 1.5 years. This isn't really said to brag, it's said to address many of the err.. notions that many people here have expressed., many of which are just rooted in ignorance.

Some things I've already worked out and started implementing are :

Building a foundation for your character / soul sea. Ideally, I want the soul sea to also be a place you can explore or interact with rather than an open void. But we will see how this goes. Otherwise, building a foundation is actually a sort of process where you consume items and then cultivate. Those items will then impart certain affects to your growth or character permanently once consumed.

Spirit Weapons and Gear, Hidden Weapons, Flying Swords (combat features). I will probably revamp the battle system as well.

Needless to say, there's many more places and events to cover. It will actually take a while do it all, but if things continue to improve I should be able to better convey that roadmap / scope with something other than words.

For now (could change) :

• Prologue - You're a nobody!
• Recruit aka Academy Days - You enter the Academy and begin to learn about survival and cultivation.
• Outer Disciples - One step above being common, your situation is getting better. You're now allowed to visit dangerous zones, find powerful artifacts and more.
• Inner Disciples - You move further up the mountain, experience more challenges and events.
• True Disciples - At this stage you are trained directly by some of the more powerful teachers /elders and you have much more time to explore and acquire strength.
• Aside from this, each time you get one step closer to True Disciple, you also gain more areas to explore, meet new people and so on.

 

[Alygness]

Syphii is a character you can meet by advancing the story a bit. At some point she comes to the hut and begins to stay with you occasionally.

It occurs around the time that Guobei decides to help you with "special training".

I meant after that, she just isn't in the hut that I can see

 

[Deleted member 107261]

I meant after that, she just isn't in the hut that I can see

I think we sorted this just a minute ago in discord.

Piggy backing off your problem, - mods from this community may be responsible for corrupt saves. As I've said a few times, I wrote an entire engine around my project, so simply doing some regex code magic will screw up games and cause many events to either not trigger or simply trigger out of order.

(And ironically enough it seems like people are blaming me for this stuff......but I digress...)

The "name" mod and the "inventory" mod( not sure which) in particular have caused problems for people in the past to my knowledge.


Aside from that, I implemented the ability to rename all the characters in 2.0, so the name change mod isn't really needed at this point.

I'm not 100% sure what the inventory mod does, but I have had people completely wreck their games while using it before. I recently implemented a better way to manage your inventory en masse, and in the future I plan to overhaul inventory altogether to support item stacks.

TL DR; The Name Change Mod is no longer needed and inventory may bug your game (and, I won't be able to help sort it).
Just something to be aware of for those who are installing mods.

P.S. Thanks to the person translating to spanish. I appreciate that.

 

[Anime02]

The MC is truly a painful thing to behold. Makes me want to stab him with a certain farmer's tool that has pointy ends. I have barely gone through the introduction and am already frustrated. Why is he there? No, I get that he was brought there, but why has he agreed to it? At the very least I presume that he agreed, from the first conversation with the "principal". But it definitely wasn't because he got a pamphlete for the school, that's for sure. He's clueless what kinda place he landed in, what the rules are, what kind of expectations the "student body" has to uphold.

Why in the name of all that is unholy did he not turn around, leave the school and go home when a fight was imminent!? He's a farmer's boy and appearantly the only thing he ever beats up is the field that his family owns...

Long story short: Why the f*ck is he there and why the hell is he not going home!?

EDIT:
After reading around a bit I find out that there is even NTR in the game. And saying "it ain't NTR, it's rape cuz you did not have a relationship with her at that point in time!" isn't cutting it. Granted I haven't played that far (And by now have no intention to, either.) but from what I read in this thread I can only think of that excuse as semantics. Semantics because, from what others here wrote, the MC gets in a relationship with her shortly thereafter and still the rape continues, at which point it becomes NTR.
Ah, sorry it wasn't rape, but blackmail or rather "forced consent". How wholesome. Feels pretty rape'y though. Yeah, I'm still calling it rape, and NTR.

Honestly, if a player has to grind to get powerful, atleast give 'em the choice to use that f*cking power in key moments! A harem-player would definitely like to bash a rapists head in, even if it is just to get another gal. Some players would do it because they hate rapists, or because they are goody-goodies, or maybe even because they'd like to rape the girl themselves instead of simply watching like idiots.

 

[LuC!f3r]

Is this the last quest? I can't progress even though I have raised to forest to level 6.

 

[Sngo]

Also in regards to a few other comments. I've had a pretty clear idea of where the project is going since I started with it so- right now, I have no intention of quitting - unless, I die or something which I admit could always happen. I have a pretty clear idea of the project's overall story - the main antagonists and so on.

Now that my financial situation is changing, I can do more. Addressing more of the concerns in this threat, the reason my game has so few followers is that its purposeful --I haven't been attempting to grow it for the better part of 5-6 months now. The reason for that was simple, I have always had a specific way I wanted to build this project, which involves building the foundation first, making it stable then worrying about growth. Now that the project is in a better place, I plan on growing it as I always intended, it just took a bit longer than I would have liked.

For a bit of perspective, I built a unique game engine for this , from scratch while simultaneously learning Python, Ren'py script and the ins and out of using Ren'py to build games. Beneath the hood, it's a lot more than pretty pictures and I've easily hand written over 30,000 lines of code specifically for this project in the past 1.5 years. This isn't really said to brag, it's said to address many of the err.. notions that many people here have expressed., many of which are just rooted in ignorance.

Some things I've already worked out and started implementing are :

Building a foundation for your character / soul sea. Ideally, I want the soul sea to also be a place you can explore or interact with rather than an open void. But we will see how this goes. Otherwise, building a foundation is actually a sort of process where you consume items and then cultivate. Those items will then impart certain affects to your growth or character permanently once consumed.

Spirit Weapons and Gear, Hidden Weapons, Flying Swords (combat features). I will probably revamp the battle system as well.

Needless to say, there's many more places and events to cover. It will actually take a while do it all, but if things continue to improve I should be able to better convey that roadmap / scope with something other than words.

For now (could change) :

• Prologue - You're a nobody!
• Recruit aka Academy Days - You enter the Academy and begin to learn about survival and cultivation.
• Outer Disciples - One step above being common, your situation is getting better. You're now allowed to visit dangerous zones, find powerful artifacts and more.
• Inner Disciples - You move further up the mountain, experience more challenges and events.
• True Disciples - At this stage you are trained directly by some of the more powerful teachers /elders and you have much more time to explore and acquire strength.
• Aside from this, each time you get one step closer to True Disciple, you also gain more areas to explore, meet new people and so on.

Ty for the reply
Seems the game as some nice features and you put work on building the game technical part.
Unfortunately that kind of content with a LI is something I despise and can't outlook it, it's already bad enough when mc isn't in a relationship but if continues after they start a relationship is even worse.
One dick good, two dick too much.

Still wish you the best in your game.
Maybe if next game don't have more than mc dick i will give it a try.
Ty again for the reply and explanation

 

[KingWeWuz]

I would like to point out the Dev's pfp says "NTR King." I think it's fairly obvious the dev is a fan of that content.

For those of us who don't like love interests having sex with other people, it's time to move on to another game. The dev has read the negative feedback and doesn't seem interested in changing the coerced sex with a li and I wouldn't be surprised if he added more.

 

[lazydude]

You have Douluo Dalu aka "soul land", doupo cangqiong aka "battle through heavens" these are 2 of my favorites.

haha love Tang Jia San Shao's stories, just got around to picking up skyfire

 

[Blackowl97]

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I would like to point out the Dev's pfp says "NTR King." I think it's fairly obvious the dev is a fan of that content.

For those of us who don't like love interests having sex with other people, it's time to move on to another game. The dev has read the negative feedback and doesn't seem interested in changing the coerced sex with a li and I wouldn't be surprised if he added more.

Exactly what I was thinking. Which is a shame for me. I had put this game on hiatus because even with all the problems the genre has, I love it. I was hoping for more content for this game and for it to be fixed so I didn't see an event in the wrong way like I did when I played it for the first time.But I found all these comments when trying to play again haha.

Something that surprises me, however, is where the dev got his inspiration from. In this kind of novel, even if there is netorare, it ends very, very badly for the other party. Even if the mc ends up heartbroken, the other party ends up with everything around them broken lol. So it wouldn't bother me to see that kind of plot, but seeing the name of the dev... I seriously doubt it. When I think of this kind of genre, I can only think of determined and ruthless protagonists. Even the 'good' protagonists are ruthless people if required (bai xiaochun from 'a will eternal' is a good example). Thing that this protagonist does not seem too much. And as much as I love the genre, I know it's intrinsically related to a power fantasy. And in a porn game that should be even worse, making the protagonist basically invincible. But the author seems to have just taken a totally different path...I can't figure it out lol. Especially, as I said, what it is based on. Anyway, sorry for my long message and if I am visibly upset. It's hard to find a xianxia game like this. Sorry for my english

 

[Blackowl97]

Lmao. I kept thinking about this game so much that I thought of something obvious and that I can't help but write it...usually, the 'used goods'(I write it like that because in many novels the characters that this happens to them are treated like that lol) in these novels , even if they are saved by the protagonist, they will be ignored or treated coldly once it is discovered what happened to them (even the protagonists do that xD). Especially if that person then went voluntarily even though she had a chance to escape lol. If someone finds out that the protagonist accepted such a woman in his harem, he will be despised for having a 'green hat' on his head even if it doesn't happen anymore just because the girl is not only not pure, but she did it voluntarily without even resisting LOL. And it's not a theory, if the dev is making a story based on the cultivation world, this is how the characters act in that kind of world 99 percent of the time. Basically, if he marries the love interest or even keeps her in his harem, if other cultivators with power similar to him want to slander him and make his status suffer, this girl is the perfect weak point haha.

I guess the dev didn't think about that since after all it's a porn game, but I still find it funny how he says he has such a well thought out story xD.

 

[Konstantinus]

The summary of what is being touted as "forced" or mandatory NTR sums up to this. There's a viscous entity that attacks other spirits and consumes them for energy. He normally kills them, but he gives 1 or 2 the option to become his sex toys (or death).

In order to avoid death, Syphii agrees to sleep with him occasionally and in turn he will allow her to stay in his territory undisturbed.

Syphii is not in a relationship with the main character, nor are they bonded. You just happen to walk up on her getting railed at one point.

Yeah the first time is not even my critic. My problem is after she follows him home. There I got the illusion of choice if I want to make a spirit pact with her where she want to stay as long as possible with me getting energy from but still goes back to the forrest so the entity goes not searching for her.
So after this pact which at least I understand as a bond, and you say there is only that happen when there is no connection like a bond that leaves me only three explenations
First one she is actually not letting her getting fucked there anymore, but only stays therem hoping the entity will not call her, as then she has to fight him and would likely get heavily damaged and likely beat the purpose of making him think everything is alright.
Second one the pact is not actually one of partner in romantic or cameradrie sense but of equal use which then turns her into an equivalent of a Gold digger which is strange as she is labeled as love interest.
Third one you actually ment that only the FIRST meeting is not NTR but actually the subsequent because then she is already a partner either because she want to use the MC for a long time or telling him, that he is unable to do anything so she is instead letting her getting raperailed again so the bastard is occupied otherwise.

All three options sound not really good.

 

[Deleted member 107261]

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I would like to point out the Dev's pfp says "NTR King." I think it's fairly obvious the dev is a fan of that content.

For those of us who don't like love interests having sex with other people, it's time to move on to another game. The dev has read the negative feedback and doesn't seem interested in changing the coerced sex with a li and I wouldn't be surprised if he added more.

Actually, that's in response to people like you ignoring everything I said at the time.
(Thus you're literally proving my point.)

If you're going to believe it anyway, there's really nothing I can say or do otherwise.

The misconception is that I really want to change your mind. I'm not going to impress or plead with you.

I'm just going to state my reasonings. Nothing you say will change my mind, just like nothing I say will change yours apparently.

 

[Deleted member 107261]

Lmao. I kept thinking about this game so much that I thought of something obvious and that I can't help but write it...usually, the 'used goods'(I write it like that because in many novels the characters that this happens to them are treated like that lol) in these novels , even if they are saved by the protagonist, they will be ignored or treated coldly once it is discovered what happened to them (even the protagonists do that xD). Especially if that person then went voluntarily even though she had a chance to escape lol. If someone finds out that the protagonist accepted such a woman in his harem, he will be despised for having a 'green hat' on his head even if it doesn't happen anymore just because the girl is not only not pure, but she did it voluntarily without even resisting LOL. And it's not a theory, if the dev is making a story based on the cultivation world, this is how the characters act in that kind of world 99 percent of the time. Basically, if he marries the love interest or even keeps her in his harem, if other cultivators with power similar to him want to slander him and make his status suffer, this girl is the perfect weak point haha.

I guess the dev didn't think about that since after all it's a porn game, but I still find it funny how he says he has such a well thought out story xD.

The main character doesn't have a harem, though I could see how you might think that - but then again. Does my input really matter?
All of you seem pretty hell-bent on ignoring anything I say - at this point why are you even interacting with me?
Just make up your mind and go with it, it will have much better results for you.

If you don't like my work, don't play it. The fact is, that same guy who wrote the review you all keep referencing absolutely loved the game and couldn't stop gushing about it -- until I refused to accept 2 of the nearly 19 suggestions he made towards improving the game. Something I've already explained several times. And also something I refuse to continue acknowledging.

It's really a simple remedy, but if you think complaining is going to make me alter parts of my game, you're mistaken.

Don't play the game, really. I don't mind.

 

[Deleted member 107261]

I find this community generally unhelpful (except for some of the devs) and frankly the more I interact with some of you, the less I really care to deal with you.

Idon't care if you support my project and I'm more libel to block those of you in every possible capacity who persist on falsely labeling my work.
Most of you are giant balls of negativity who make trollish comments because you lack positive attention irl.

At what point do you mature a bit and grow up?

Being an edgelord to get e-cool points or attention died out in 2016.

At the end of the day, all I will do is point out my intention.
Your interpretation of my work is just that.

I'm not going to "get triggered" nor go back and forth with you, I've made that abundantly clear.

Participate in all the slander and misinformation you like, it really just points out to me who I should avoid,ignore or block.

 

[Deleted member 107261]

The NTR King thing was a reference to thread (since deleted) where a group of people refused to acknowledge or accept the generally accepted definition of the term NTR. Like many of you here, they ignored common sense and persisted in mislabeling something for their own emotional pay off.

So I embraced it since I had 0 plans to use this community at the time.

I however, am a productive member of this community and I'm all about solutions.

Perhaps you all should come up with a new term for this irrational hatred of second-hand dicks.

Then people won't think you're illiterate and crazy.

 

[JonTommy]

The NTR King thing was a reference to thread (since deleted) where a group of people refused to acknowledge or accept the generally accepted definition of the term NTR. Like many of you here, they ignored common sense and persisted in mislabeling something for their own emotional pay off.

So I embraced it since I had 0 plans to use this community at the time.

I however, am a productive member of this community and I'm all about solutions.

Perhaps you all should come up with a new term for this irrational hatred of second-hand dicks.

Then people won't think you're illiterate and crazy.

Not here to argue NTR but you should definitely put the "rape" tag on the thread maybe "blackmail"? Not real sure either way one or both of those tags seem correct.

 

[Deleted member 107261]

Not here to argue NTR but you should definitely put the "rape" tag on the thread maybe "blackmail"? Not real sure either way one or both of those tags seem correct.

If I explain to you why it's not rape will you actually accept the explanation or - like other people , disregard it simply because you want the game to have "rape" in it?

I guess this is my problem with explaining my choices - because people seem to think I want to lie to them for no apparent reason.

If I felt it was rape, I'd remove it.

People have consensual, conditional sex every day around the world. We call them sex workers.
Sex workers don't actually like many of their clients. They just want the money, and thus agree to have sex with them.
Syphii agreed to have sex (and in the process keep her life, while also entering into a less beneficial deal to stay in that territory).
But put another way, is murder consensual? I think most people would agree it's not.

So, this Vagrah guy attacking someone, murdering them and draining them of their energy is more accepted than making a fucked up deal to fuck her in the ass occasionally?
There is no rape. They fought, she lost and in order to avoid being drained, Syphii willingly had sex with him.
She also willingly went back to keep up the deal several times - until she worked out a plan to get rid of the guy altogether. (Not because of the sex, because he was just a vicious dick.)

At no time does my game depict anyone being raped or having sex against their will.

It just doesn't exist in the game, and that's my problem with these reviews.
The guy who wrote the review seemed to have absolutely no problem with the game - until (after a day and a half of talking with him about the project), I declined two of his suggestions.
Suddenly there's NTR and Rape everywhere.

It's utter nonsense and painting it any other way is just a lie.

So, no, I won't add a rape tag or non-con tag. They were two adults who came to an agreement.

Just like christian grey and that weird bitch who signed the contract.

Words have a definition for a reason. The fact that people are so willing to call their secondary dick syndrome NTR is silly and inaccurate.

Calling a screwed up but consensual sex act rape is silly and inaccurate.
No, no. No. nO No.

 

[JonTommy]

If I explain to you why it's not rape will you actually accept the explanation or - like other people , disregard it simply because you want the game to have "rape" in it?

I guess this is my problem with explaining my choices - because people seem to think I want to lie to them for no apparent reason.

If I felt it was rape, I'd remove it.

People have consensual, conditional sex every day around the world. We call them sex workers.
Sex workers don't actually like many of their clients. They just want the money, and thus agree to have sex with them.
Syphii agreed to have sex (and in the process keep her life, while also entering into a less beneficial deal to stay in that territory).
But put another way, is murder consensual? I think most people would agree it's not.

So, this Vagrah guy attacking someone, murdering them and draining them of their energy is more accepted than making a fucked up deal to fuck her in the ass occasionally?
There is no rape. Syphii willingly had sex with him.
She also willingly went back to keep up the deal several times - until she worked out a plan to get rid of the guy altogether.
At no time does my game depict anyone being raped or having sex against their will.

It just doesn't exist in the game, and that's my problem with these reviews.
The guy who wrote the review seemed to have absolutely no problem with the game - until (after a day and a half of talking with him about the project), I declined two of his suggestions.
Suddenly there's NTR and Rape everywhere.

It's utter nonsense and painting it any other way is just a lie.

So, no, I won't add a rape tag or non-con tag. They were two adults who came to an agreement.

Just like christian grey and that weird bitch who signed the contract.

Words have a definition for a reason. The fact that people are so willing to call their secondary dick syndrome NTR is silly and inaccurate.

Calling a screwed up but consensual sex act rape is silly and inaccurate.
No, no. No. nO No.

You are equating being a sex worker to allowing someone to fuck you under the threat of death. If it ain't rape it's blackmail then according to the site rules. I'd argue it's rape but whatever do you.