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RPGM Completed Henteria Chronicles Ch. 2 : The Law of the Tribe [Update 16] [N_taii]

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So yeah, i just played the "Beta" of HC3 and holy shit, man. You outdone yourself. The atmosphere is just amazing.
Just a question and i hope it doesn't spoil anything, but do you plan to add other male characters that get ntr'd by the women like in HC2? Because, in all honesty, i would prefer if you didn't and all the FMCs "focus" on the MC. Still tho, i'm looking forward to the next release.
 

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So yeah, i just played the "Beta" of HC3 and holy shit, man. You outdone yourself. The atmosphere is just amazing.
Just a question and i hope it doesn't spoil anything, but do you plan to add other male characters that get ntr'd by the women like in HC2? Because, in all honesty, i would prefer if you didn't and all the FMCs "focus" on the MC. Still tho, i'm looking forward to the next release.
I prefer the focus. Adds to the NTR.
 

LazwelX

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Yeah the payoff is huge.

Although I still remember being shocked from ntrpg 2, where the ntr just goes from 0 to 100. It was just so unexpected (usually you have the classic groping, hj, bj, thighjob, vaginal, anal... where 1 leads to the next one).

The way you just woke up and it was already all done... there is something unique and great about that.
Ntrpg 2 was leagues better than 1 not to say that one was terrible, but it was most definitely lacking in certain departments.
 

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So yeah, i just played the "Beta" of HC3 and holy shit, man. You outdone yourself. The atmosphere is just amazing.
Just a question and i hope it doesn't spoil anything, but do you plan to add other male characters that get ntr'd by the women like in HC2? Because, in all honesty, i would prefer if you didn't and all the FMCs "focus" on the MC. Still tho, i'm looking forward to the next release.
For HC3, I must admit the 2 main and the 2 side characters all have an exclusive relationship with the MC, and no particular meaningful relationship with any other guy within the game (except with the antagonists, but that's another story).
What I garnered from HC3 criticism is that the women felt too detached from the MC, thus diluting the feeling of NTR, like for example Thania, whose focus was on her and her relationship with her son, rather than with the MC. I could have gone the Solana way, with her being in love with the MC, and the MC's best friend being in love with her, and an antagonist butting in, but I didn't really feel like doing it in HC3. It would have felt too same-y, and a bit forced, as it wouldn't really have fit the story.
 

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For HC3, I must admit the 2 main and the 2 side characters all have an exclusive relationship with the MC, and no particular meaningful relationship with any other guy within the game (except with the antagonists, but that's another story).
What I garnered from HC3 criticism is that the women felt too detached from the MC, thus diluting the feeling of NTR, like for example Thania, whose focus was on her and her relationship with her son, rather than with the MC. I could have gone the Solana way, with her being in love with the MC, and the MC's best friend being in love with her, and an antagonist butting in, but I didn't really feel like doing it in HC3. It would have felt too same-y, and a bit forced, as it wouldn't really have fit the story.
I enjoyed the different scenarios of HC2 personally but the problem was that there seemed to be too many moving parts and thus it didn’t seem like you could flesh out the characters and some felt like they needed more scenes. It’s been a while but the white hair elf girl for instance her scenes felt kind of underwhelming to me.
 
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For HC3, I must admit the 2 main and the 2 side characters all have an exclusive relationship with the MC, and no particular meaningful relationship with any other guy within the game (except with the antagonists, but that's another story).
What I garnered from HC3 criticism is that the women felt too detached from the MC, thus diluting the feeling of NTR, like for example Thania, whose focus was on her and her relationship with her son, rather than with the MC. I could have gone the Solana way, with her being in love with the MC, and the MC's best friend being in love with her, and an antagonist butting in, but I didn't really feel like doing it in HC3. It would have felt too same-y, and a bit forced, as it wouldn't really have fit the story.
Okay. That's great to hear, honestly!
 

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For HC3, I must admit the 2 main and the 2 side characters all have an exclusive relationship with the MC, and no particular meaningful relationship with any other guy within the game (except with the antagonists, but that's another story).
What I garnered from HC3 criticism is that the women felt too detached from the MC, thus diluting the feeling of NTR, like for example Thania, whose focus was on her and her relationship with her son, rather than with the MC. I could have gone the Solana way, with her being in love with the MC, and the MC's best friend being in love with her, and an antagonist butting in, but I didn't really feel like doing it in HC3. It would have felt too same-y, and a bit forced, as it wouldn't really have fit the story.
So is there separate antagonist for each girl if I’m understanding it right
 

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So is there separate antagonist for each girl if I’m understanding it right
Yes and i think it's still open whether they get shared by different men or each of them has only 1 guy. Probably just one.

More interesting would be to guess who the antagonists are.
N_taii said we have seen 3 out of 4 already.
So i guess the nun gets corrupted by that fat recruit who was cucked before.
The orange head gets done by one (possible both later on) of the brothers. My take would be the older(?) one who is growing strange herbs and owns the magic shop.
I have no idea about the female knight and the princess, but i do believe the masked guy in the wizard meeting is that one dude from the castle.

Oh and i hope to see the queen getting NTRed by the duke. DukexQueen would be much better than duke x princess.
 
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Yes and i think it's still open whether they get shared by different men or each of them has only 1 guy. Probably just one.

More interesting would be to guess who the antagonists are.
N_taii said we have seen 3 out of 4 already.
So i guess the nun gets corrupted by that fat recruit who was cucked before.
The orange head gets done by one (possible both later on) of the brothers. My take would be the older(?) one who is growing strange herbs and owns the magic shop.
I have no idea about the female knight and the princess, but i do believe the masked guy in the wizard meeting is that one dude from the castle.

Oh and i hope to see the queen getting NTRed by the duke. DukexQueen would be much better than duke x princess.
I agree with these except the orange hair one, might be both brothers later but I’m pretty sure it starts with the tavern owner first says he’s shown to be promiscuous and she’s literally working RIGHT in his house.
 
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I also thought about this but why would he coincidentally start molesting her right then when he could have done it earlier, maybe even years ago?
Let's just say the three girls are all about 16. If it's the owner he would have done it sooner, maybe once she turned 14.
 
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Yes and i think it's still open whether they get shared by different men or each of them has only 1 guy. Probably just one.

More interesting would be to guess who the antagonists are.
N_taii said we have seen 3 out of 4 already.
So i guess the nun gets corrupted by that fat recruit who was cucked before.
The orange head gets done by one (possible both later on) of the brothers. My take would be the older(?) one who is growing strange herbs and owns the magic shop.
I have no idea about the female knight and the princess, but i do believe the masked guy in the wizard meeting is that one dude from the castle.

Oh and i hope to see the queen getting NTRed by the duke. DukexQueen would be much better than duke x princess.
I think duke can NTR both the queen and princess ;)
 
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Gonna be interesting to see the NTR antagonists in this game especially the Princess' antagonist because I feel like there's not many people that can get away with fucking the princess but should be fun :)
 

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I liked HC2 though I didn't like the NTR progression for Celis at all, the whole "I'll teach you horny stuff so you can be with him" trope never worked for me ever, makes the girl seem way too stupid. I liked an aspect of it however, the misunderstanding part.

I like when the girl in NTR witnesses the MC in an intimate moment with another female and misunderstand the situation. Especially if this happens several times and these moments start to pile up inside her head, to the point she starts believing she was a fool and the MC actually loves someone else.

It looks like HC3 will have some type of corruption magic that will probably lower the heroines defenses.
For the villains, other than the Duke we have yet to meet, the most obvious ones would be the inn owner and the mage. 3rd one is more tricky, I think it would be nice if it was someone unexpected like the castle guard that likes the head maid.

I noticed the sister has a bed in her room at the casern that can be seen from outside window, that's hype for someone like me who loves to see stuff happen from outside the window, HC2 was good with that. Speaking of which HC2 had a scene with shadows and silhouettes between the mother and villain and I felt it was criminal the silhouettes were not used again after that.

Both HC2 and HC3 also work on mobile, something I really appreciate, though in HC3 the main map is very big so it lags quite a bit on my device.

HC3 started extremely good, definitely has potential to be even better than HC2.
Dev should definitely consider translating HC2 and HC3 in Japanese when finished and selling it on dlsite imho, cause it could sell very well there.
 

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So is there separate antagonist for each girl if I’m understanding it right
There is, yes.

I liked HC2 though I didn't like the NTR progression for Celis at all, the whole "I'll teach you horny stuff so you can be with him" trope never worked for me ever, makes the girl seem way too stupid. I liked an aspect of it however, the misunderstanding part.

I like when the girl in NTR witnesses the MC in an intimate moment with another female and misunderstand the situation. Especially if this happens several times and these moments start to pile up inside her head, to the point she starts believing she was a fool and the MC actually loves someone else.

It looks like HC3 will have some type of corruption magic that will probably lower the heroines defenses.
For the villains, other than the Duke we have yet to meet, the most obvious ones would be the inn owner and the mage. 3rd one is more tricky, I think it would be nice if it was someone unexpected like the castle guard that likes the head maid.

I noticed the sister has a bed in her room at the casern that can be seen from outside window, that's hype for someone like me who loves to see stuff happen from outside the window, HC2 was good with that. Speaking of which HC2 had a scene with shadows and silhouettes between the mother and villain and I felt it was criminal the silhouettes were not used again after that.

Both HC2 and HC3 also work on mobile, something I really appreciate, though in HC3 the main map is very big so it lags quite a bit on my device.

HC3 started extremely good, definitely has potential to be even better than HC2.
Dev should definitely consider translating HC2 and HC3 in Japanese when finished and selling it on dlsite imho, cause it could sell very well there.
Yeah, that's why I tried to make Celis' first event more believable by 1)adding a sense of urgency with her seeing Noah being kissed by another girl, 2)her being drunk, thus her being far weaker to Edwyr's words, and easier to convince

There will indeed be magic involved in the corruption process but, so far, it has no impact on their mind or on their libido. If I ever add any artifices to help the corruption progress, I'll try my best to keep their effects to a minimum. I've never been fond of hypnosis/instant super powerful aphrodisiacs that turn a nun into a slut in mere seconds. It feels too easy and a bit cheap. The only reason why I'd add any aphrodisiac-type stuff is that it would fit really well in a certain scene, or to better justify the heroines' fall.

The sister, and every single heroine in the game, has or will have an accessible window that can be seen from outside, through which you can see their bed. The sister actually has two (her room + the casern), and her bedroom is separated from the MC's by a single wall. The wall is an idea I had before I even started designing the town, and that I will make use of.

There is more potential for silhouettes in HC3, since every window at night now has curtains.

The map in HC3 is actually smaller than HC2's. HC2's map was 75 tiles by 75, while HC3's narrower, 55x75. However, HC3's got a ton of stuff on it, + lots of triggers for sounds and making the buildings go transparent when the MC walks behind them, events for the underwated elements, doodads, etc...

I have considered Japanese translation before, as I'm sure there is a certain market for this kind of games. The issue is that they're far too text-heavy. HC2 alone has around 570k words. Remove all the different path and choices with similar dialogues, and I'd say it's more or less 500k words that would need to be translated. It's been a while since I last looked it up, but this would mean 10's of thousands of dollars spent on translation, and it's very unlikely the sales would be enough to break even.
 

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There will indeed be magic involved in the corruption process but, so far, it has no impact on their mind or on their libido. If I ever add any artifices to help the corruption progress, I'll try my best to keep their effects to a minimum. I've never been fond of hypnosis/instant super powerful aphrodisiacs that turn a nun into a slut in mere seconds. It feels too easy and a bit cheap. The only reason why I'd add any aphrodisiac-type stuff is that it would fit really well in a certain scene, or to better justify the heroines' fall.
Agree, hypnosis always cheapens the whole corruption process. I think it would be somewhat fine perhaps for a throwaway side character, where you would not want to spend too much time on the process anyway.

There is not much "betrayal" when they do it involuntarily like that.
 

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Agree, hypnosis always cheapens the whole corruption process. I think it would be somewhat fine perhaps for a throwaway side character, where you would not want to spend too much time on the process anyway.

There is not much "betrayal" when they do it involuntarily like that.
Rather than cheapens, it gets rid of it altogether, or reduce it to a form that is barely enjoyable. Slowly progressing through the heroine's mental and physical barriers is much more satisfying than just going "*poof* Now you're a slut". It could be an interesting medium for smaller side-stories that are less about the corruption than they are to about fleshing out the world-building elements though, as you said.
 

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*sigh* It's almost midnight, guess i better go over to his patreon and spam F5 in hopes that i see an estimated release date (i know he already said last week that "mid September sounds realistic" but still) and that the picture attached is something a bit more revealing than the previous ones in this week's Proof of Life :HideThePain:.
 

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*sigh* It's almost midnight, guess i better go over to his patreon and spam F5 in hopes that i see an estimated release date (i know he already said last week that "mid September sounds realistic" but still) and that the picture attached is something a bit more revealing than the previous ones in this week's Proof of Life :HideThePain:.
Sorry, this PoL's picture isn't too revealing. I'm keeping all the juicy bits for the actual game. Release date is... well, still complicated. Around mid-September is still the best bet I can give, for reasons I explained already (lots of different things to do, little knowledge of how much time each of them will actually take to complete). Sorry again!
 
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Yeah, for sure. Don't rush things. HC3 is a really ambitious project. I'd like to know though: Will you still be able to update the game monthly, once the demo is out?
 
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