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RPGM Completed Henteria Chronicles Ch. 2 : The Law of the Tribe [Update 16] [N_taii]

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sfoMMA85

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I hope the sequel has a heroine or side girl that is a bit nerdy or with glasses. It's just an odd fetish I have lmao.
There is no girl at the moment with glasses. But man it is a great idea. One of the girls could wear glasses when reading and writing. I think Cyanna is the perfect candidate, as she A) has a school-like unifrom already, B) is an socially awkward ice queen who rather stays for herself reading books then meeting with people C) is quite diligent and committed towrds her responsibilities (nerdy)
I think it would underline her personality and fit quite well. Oh my I would love to get some library scenes with her looking like this. *chef's kiss*
 

sfoMMA85

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For HC3, I must admit the 2 main and the 2 side characters all have an exclusive relationship with the MC, and no particular meaningful relationship with any other guy within the game (except with the antagonists, but that's another story).
What I garnered from HC3 criticism is that the women felt too detached from the MC, thus diluting the feeling of NTR, like for example Thania, whose focus was on her and her relationship with her son, rather than with the MC. I could have gone the Solana way, with her being in love with the MC, and the MC's best friend being in love with her, and an antagonist butting in, but I didn't really feel like doing it in HC3. It would have felt too same-y, and a bit forced, as it wouldn't really have fit the story.
I personally also think this is the best way. The Solana way was a good one as well but I understand why you would decide this way.

Still maybe there is a way to implement the 'Solana way' and connect it what many people wished for already: NTR the king!! As jaden000 beautifully put in simple words what many are hoping for (actually I suggested the exact same thing to N_Taii some time ago):
I think duke can NTR both the queen and princess ;)
I would absolutely love this. Rose could still be the duke's main LI, but maybe he wants revenge on the king and plots to overtake his whole family.

Edit: Here the suggestion that I wrote to N_Taii:
The duke on the other hand hates the king because he did something to him a long time ago (could be something political or about power obviously) and he wants to revenge himself. He might be a very selfish person who wants all the power for himself. So he plots to hurt the king the most and take his wife and his daughter from him and by this also maybe win the crown. But he is absolutely not interested in other, 'impure' women. He only wants the two best and finest (which are the royal women) and he kinda falls in love with both. Mostly with Rose cause she is one of the 2 main heroines. But of course he doesnt wnat to show this 'weakness' and thus acts very dominant towards both. In the end he will make a little royal family with them.
 
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sfoMMA85

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It looks like HC3 will have some type of corruption magic that will probably lower the heroines defenses.
There will indeed be magic involved in the corruption process but, so far, it has no impact on their mind or on their libido. If I ever add any artifices to help the corruption progress, I'll try my best to keep their effects to a minimum. I've never been fond of hypnosis/instant super powerful aphrodisiacs that turn a nun into a slut in mere seconds. It feels too easy and a bit cheap. The only reason why I'd add any aphrodisiac-type stuff is that it would fit really well in a certain scene, or to better justify the heroines' fall.
oh man I really hope we dont get to see magic involved in the corruption process in any way. I personally absolutely dont like it. Its something that always troubled me in HC1 and 2 already.
It gets rid of the corruption, it is no real cheating in the sense of conscious betrayal, its not about the performance of the antagonists in bed but rather the drug or magic that makes them horny... yeah it takes almost everything I like in a good corruption/NTR game. So I really do hope that whatever you are saying with "There will indeed be magic involved in the corruption process ..." you dont really mean^^
 

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So i guess the nun gets corrupted by that fat recruit who was cucked before.
The orange head gets done by one (possible both later on) of the brothers. My take would be the older(?) one who is growing strange herbs and owns the magic shop.
I have no idea about the female knight and the princess, but i do believe the masked guy in the wizard meeting is that one dude from the castle.
Well I looked at this, lets say in a more methodical approach. Still I could be completly wrong of course. But if you take a closer look at the map and the tavern, as well as the casern, you will find special places for certain persons: 1.) The commander of the guard 2.) the tavern owner - one of the brothers 3.) the magic shop - the other brother 4.) the duke's manor.

As N_Taii needs good places for juicy scenes to unfold, I would assume he prepared them beforehand. Why would N_Taii insert a random room for the commander if it has no certain importance for the story. And as I know N_Taii almost everything we see in the game is based on purpose thus by looking at what we have got we get hints on what is to come. N_Taii is cunning though, so he might wanna mislead us :D

Still I think these 4 persons will play a major role and most of the mwill be antagonists. I am not sure about one of the brothers (the magic shop owner). His place could be important for the story not for the NTR to happen. Though there are a lot of rooms, such as a bathroom in his house...

Another question is how will the antagonists get matched with the LI?

My guess is as follows:
1) Lily (the little ginger childhood friend): Definitely the tavern owner (95% sure)
2.) Rose (the princess): Definitely the duke (99.9% sure)
3.) Cyanna (the sister): The commander of the guard (50% sure)
4.) Haylen (the mother/nun): Dont know about her. Maybe the guard who helped Leto in the beginning. Maybe the magic shop owner. I personally would love to see a young adult brat (eg. just reached adulthood) who gives her the love and hard hand she seeks. God I would love it - I always love to see the adult, mature mother type beeing taken by a young brat. Dunno, kinda like the contrast I guess.

Well that are my guesses. :D Lets see what we get..
 

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Played the game. And I got to say that playing it fully just fleshes out how pathetic and how much a coward the MC is. Terrible friend especially. Pretty good game tho
 

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oh man I really hope we dont get to see magic involved in the corruption process in any way. I personally absolutely dont like it. Its something that always troubled me in HC1 and 2 already.
It gets rid of the corruption, it is no real cheating in the sense of conscious betrayal, its not about the performance of the antagonists in bed but rather the drug or magic that makes them horny... yeah it takes almost everything I like in a good corruption/NTR game. So I really do hope that whatever you are saying with "There will indeed be magic involved in the corruption process ..." you dont really mean^^
How about when magic is affected by the corruption? Like spells change, powers are gained, appearence changes (turning into a demon or succubus, or even just a lewd crest are good examples), etc?
 

LazwelX

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I don’t see this argument against magic/aphrodisiac in corruption if anything I think it adds to it as long as it’s not something like complete mindcontrol but more enhancing sensitivity and assisting with eroding the womens morals over time. I especially like when the aphrodisiac drives them crazy only for them to get whiplash the day after when it wears off
 

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Yeah, for sure. Don't rush things. HC3 is a really ambitious project. I'd like to know though: Will you still be able to update the game monthly, once the demo is out?
I should be able to, yes. Currently, I don't see why I wouldn't. The updates would be smaller in size though, and instead of saying, "I will publish it on X day", I might give myself a 3-4 days period within which I would release any new update. So instead of saying "on the 10th of x month", I'm more likely to say "between the 10 and 14th of x month", so I can properly test everything that needs to.
The only update that will need to be pushed back slightly is the first update after the demo. Probably to early November. The reason being that, since it's the demo, there will probably be a ton of things to fix and tweak here and there, even more when I first release it to the public around 15 days after the first Patreon release.

oh man I really hope we dont get to see magic involved in the corruption process in any way. I personally absolutely dont like it. Its something that always troubled me in HC1 and 2 already.
It gets rid of the corruption, it is no real cheating in the sense of conscious betrayal, its not about the performance of the antagonists in bed but rather the drug or magic that makes them horny... yeah it takes almost everything I like in a good corruption/NTR game. So I really do hope that whatever you are saying with "There will indeed be magic involved in the corruption process ..." you dont really mean^^
I'm a bit confused by your comment since, as far as I remember, there was close to no magic/quick corruption devices being used in HC1 or HC2. There was even a quest with Thania where the Professor thinks he's using aphrodisiacs, while it's actually just plain perfume.
When I say magic will be involved, I don't mean as a means to fasten the corruption, but simply as a trigger, to give the antagonists a reason to try and corrupt the heroines. It will have no effect on the heroines themselves, and if it ever does in later updates, I'll be keeping it to a bare minimum, just enough to make the corruption process appear slightly more realistic.

Well I looked at this, lets say in a more methodical approach. Still I could be completly wrong of course. But if you take a closer look at the map and the tavern, as well as the casern, you will find special places for certain persons: 1.) The commander of the guard 2.) the tavern owner - one of the brothers 3.) the magic shop - the other brother 4.) the duke's manor.

As N_Taii needs good places for juicy scenes to unfold, I would assume he prepared them beforehand. Why would N_Taii insert a random room for the commander if it has no certain importance for the story. And as I know N_Taii almost everything we see in the game is based on purpose thus by looking at what we have got we get hints on what is to come. N_Taii is cunning though, so he might wanna mislead us :D

My guess is as follows:
1) Lily (the little ginger childhood friend): Definitely the tavern owner (95% sure)
2.) Rose (the princess): Definitely the duke (99.9% sure)
3.) Cyanna (the sister): The commander of the guard (50% sure)
4.) Haylen (the mother/nun): Dont know about her. Maybe the guard who helped Leto in the beginning. Maybe the magic shop owner. I personally would love to see a young adult brat (eg. just reached adulthood) who gives her the love and hard hand she seeks. God I would love it - I always love to see the adult, mature mother type beeing taken by a young brat. Dunno, kinda like the contrast I guess.
Hmmm, I sometimes add stuff and locations without an actual plan, just to give my imagination more room to come up with sex scenes and story in different contexts and situations in later updates. But you're right, almost every location in HC3 fulfills some kind of role in the game.
As for your list, well, I won't spoil anything. The commander will indeed play a role in the game, but not the one you think. Or maybe he will, but not the way you think? Anyway, this is getting confusing ; )

I don’t see this argument against magic/aphrodisiac in corruption if anything I think it adds to it as long as it’s not something like complete mindcontrol but more enhancing sensitivity and assisting with eroding the womens morals over time. I especially like when the aphrodisiac drives them crazy only for them to get whiplash the day after when it wears off
That's my idea too. Magic, hypnosis or aphrodisiacs are a difficult thing to use in corruption games. It needs to be properly balanced so it adds some realism to explain why the women succumbed to the pleasure the way they did, but if they are too potent, it makes the whole corruption process very unsatisfying.
Not extremely fond of powerful aphrodisiacs though, even if limited in time.
 

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for some reason, the only way that aphrodisiacs actually seem reasonable to me is if its an illegal drug or a monster like a slime or tentacles uses it as an attack.

it can also be added to monsters' semen for some kind of lore reasons.
 
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ramonetis

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Hypnosis or aphrodisiacs can be a good idea when they cause a slow corruption, there are some games that do it this way and it looks pretty good, but when it is used to turn women from 0-100 into slut, it breaks all the corruption and immersion.
 

sfoMMA85

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I'm a bit confused by your comment since, as far as I remember, there was close to no magic/quick corruption devices being used in HC1 or HC2. There was even a quest with Thania where the Professor thinks he's using aphrodisiacs, while it's actually just plain perfume.
Mh if I remember correctly in HC1 Lady Eleonora took aphrodisiacs in the form of some drink. She was later drinking it willingly with Ezekiel in her tent.
In HC2 alle the men took those herbs drinks that spiced them up, also in bed - if I remember correctly. Also didnt Celis and Aywin take some kind of potion to get pregnant? I think that made the process too unrealistic for me. Zeno and Edwyr were already cumming buckets inside of both and then they took the drink and got pregnant exactly at the same time. In pregnancy I think what is so hot is that its unexpected when you start having bareback sex.
I gotta say though, and this might have come out in the wrong way, that you always used very little magic and aphrodisiacs in all of your games and it was never overused in a way that it would make me enjoy your games less. I think I am just nitpicking a bit cause on a general basis I am really not a fan of it. In the end N_taii I am sure that you will execute it just right ;)

When I say magic will be involved, I don't mean as a means to fasten the corruption, but simply as a trigger, to give the antagonists a reason to try and corrupt the heroines. It will have no effect on the heroines themselves, and if it ever does in later updates, I'll be keeping it to a bare minimum, just enough to make the corruption process appear slightly more realistic.
I do understand. And I gotta admit, aphrodisiacs are realistic after all. They do exist. I am not a 100 percent sure why I dislike it so much, but for me - apart from it often beeing used in an unrealistic way - it just feels as if the challenge is gone. I think I find it much more exciting to see antagonists take on this challenge and you have this very exciting plot, maybe also with steps back where the LIs fight back (that is exactly what aphrodisiacs hinder) and they really have to be smart, cunning, good in bed and all that to win the LIs over and stop them from fighting back and start enjoying and eventually falling in love with the antagonists. I think thats why I love NTR type B so much. Because this plot line/suspension curve is very exciting and if you have a good author (such as yourself) it will be very interesting and hot to see how the antagonists will achieve it all.

Btw - what I really thought to be very hot in HC1 - which also had a magical touch to it - was the magic chastity belt Ezekiel was forcing Eleonora to wear and this way making her succumb in a way. That was really a cunning and exciting plan Ezekiel executed to get what he wanted.

As for your list, well, I won't spoil anything. The commander will indeed play a role in the game, but not the one you think. Or maybe he will, but not the way you think? Anyway, this is getting confusing ; )
I did say I am only 50% sure of this match but I gotta admit I am really excited to get to know our antagonists for HC3. By now I am so damn excited for the release. Cant wait!
 

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Mh if I remember correctly in HC1 Lady Eleonora took aphrodisiacs in the form of some drink. She was later drinking it willingly with Ezekiel in her tent.
In HC2 alle the men took those herbs drinks that spiced them up, also in bed - if I remember correctly. Also didnt Celis and Aywin take some kind of potion to get pregnant? I think that made the process too unrealistic for me. Zeno and Edwyr were already cumming buckets inside of both and then they took the drink and got pregnant exactly at the same time. In pregnancy I think what is so hot is that its unexpected when you start having bareback sex.
I gotta say though, and this might have come out in the wrong way, that you always used very little magic and aphrodisiacs in all of your games and it was never overused in a way that it would make me enjoy your games less. I think I am just nitpicking a bit cause on a general basis I am really not a fan of it. In the end N_taii I am sure that you will execute it just right ;)
Yeah, there might have been some stuff in HC1 that I don't remember. For HC2, well, I wouldn't call that corruption. That's exactly because they were already cumming buckets that I needed something to symbolize the last step in the corruption: the willingness to carry the antagonists' child, the ultimate sign of surrender. Also, it added to the sex scene, knowing that, in this one, the women were sure to get pregnant.

I do understand. And I gotta admit, aphrodisiacs are realistic after all. They do exist. I am not a 100 percent sure why I dislike it so much, but for me - apart from it often beeing used in an unrealistic way - it just feels as if the challenge is gone. I think I find it much more exciting to see antagonists take on this challenge and you have this very exciting plot, maybe also with steps back where the LIs fight back (that is exactly what aphrodisiacs hinder) and they really have to be smart, cunning, good in bed and all that to win the LIs over and stop them from fighting back and start enjoying and eventually falling in love with the antagonists. I think thats why I love NTR type B so much. Because this plot line/suspension curve is very exciting and if you have a good author (such as yourself) it will be very interesting and hot to see how the antagonists will achieve it all.

Btw - what I really thought to be very hot in HC1 - which also had a magical touch to it - was the magic chastity belt Ezekiel was forcing Eleonora to wear and this way making her succumb in a way. That was really a cunning and exciting plan Ezekiel executed to get what he wanted.
Don't worry, I understand why you don't like them, I don't either. But there are also a chunk of players who find the heroine's complete fall too unrealistic without something extra to explain it. Then again, it isn't exactly meant to be realistic, but I at least want to lean towards believable for my game.
I do enjoy the chastity belt trope in corruption games as well : )
 

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Yeah, there might have been some stuff in HC1 that I don't remember. For HC2, well, I wouldn't call that corruption. That's exactly because they were already cumming buckets that I needed something to symbolize the last step in the corruption: the willingness to carry the antagonists' child, the ultimate sign of surrender. Also, it added to the sex scene, knowing that, in this one, the women were sure to get pregnant.


Don't worry, I understand why you don't like them, I don't either. But there are also a chunk of players who find the heroine's complete fall too unrealistic without something extra to explain it. Then again, it isn't exactly meant to be realistic, but I at least want to lean towards believable for my game.
I do enjoy the chastity belt trope in corruption games as well : )
It’s near impossible for there to be 100% realism in NTR.. there must be some suspension of disbelief but your doing an elite job already making close to realistic as possible.
 

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That's exactly because they were already cumming buckets that I needed something to symbolize the last step in the corruption: the willingness to carry the antagonists' child, the ultimate sign of surrender. Also, it added to the sex scene, knowing that, in this one, the women were sure to get pregnant.
I understand. As a suggestion for the future though, maybe you can make it more interesting, also adding more corruption stages this way, by extending the condom trope (in HC2 condoms were gone very fast, e.g. after 1-2 sex scenes with condoms). There are hot things you can do with condoms on the way (manipulation of condoms, stealthing, condom belt e.g. they have to wear the condoms beneath their cloths, make them drink cum out of the condoms, adds a lot of interesting dialogue options where the antagonists try to persuade the LIs into not wearing a condom....) and when the antagonists finally convince/persuade the LIs to not wear condoms anymore you could go for some magical, after sex contraception for example and then at one point they forget to take it or they dont care anymore or they want to have a child (each LI could have different reasons for getting pregnant. E.g. some unexpected/accidental pregnancy, some planned pregnancy,...) and then become pregnant. This way I think it will be a lot more exciting because we dont know in which way they get pregnant, its not obvious from the beginning that they do get pregnant and so on. I think in HC2 it was too predictable. Because for me persoanlly it didn't add "to the sex scene, knowing that, in this one, the women were sure to get pregnant". It took away they surprise, the twist and was too linear.

And I think thats what quite some players meant when reviewing HC2 with comments saying the corruption was too linear and too predictable. And IMO the main reasons for that beeing:
  • the somewhat similar-ish corruption process for all the LIs
  • the linear, predictable way the corruption was executed
  • the LIs not fighting back, which could have immensly added to the suspension
I don't want to sound too negative in a way. I obviously think your corruption progress is one of the best of many NTR games but I think these are things you could grow upon. Still I also want to highlight what IMO has been done absolutely great concerning the corruption progress in your games also to encourage you to keep these things as they were:
  • length and level of detail
  • realism, as jaden000 rightfully stated "your doing an elite job already making close to realistic as possible"
  • background, setting, the whole NTR premise
  • different kinks (BDSM, pregnancy,...), NTR tropes (blackmail, sugar daddy, jealousy,...)
  • your generally very rich ideas regarding lewd scenes
  • execution of scenes
  • dailogues, lewd talks
  • I always was a huge fan of your execution of the early stages of corruption with lots of groping, harassment (for me personally the early corruption stages are the hottest and sometimes I wish they gon on forever with only very minor escalation steps)
  • and a lot I forgot that could be stated here as well
 
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Can only co-sign the things with condoms. There can be so much dope thoings be done with condoms. Especially mystery wise. Imagine going into one of the FMCs room and finding one condom stashed in the trash or something like that.
 

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I think there actually should be a bit of disbelief. The fact that they took the final step themselves, after getting drunk on pleasure etc.

It is more of a disbelief of "how could she do this?" - which is imo pretty important in ntr. And it is not that hard to believe either. They just found a part of themselves they did not know was there. Feelings change, some fade, some grow stronger. It is not that hard to imagine feeling for mc fading and for antagonist growing stronger.

Again going back to how hypnosis removes a lot. I think that aphrodisiacs is exactly the same thing. At least for me, for ntr to work, the heroine has to do it out of her own volition (from a certain point).

Also adding on to post above me, enviromental story telling is always awesome. Cumstain here and there, a forgotten condom somewhere, ruffled clothes etc... all good stuff.
 
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