RPGM Completed Henteria Chronicles Ch. 2 : The Law of the Tribe [Update 16] [N_taii]

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Kulman

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It's hard to say whether it is a good business model or not. I think it is working out pretty well, as I try my best to make anything extra not story-related so that lower tier Patrons don't feel left out and can keep playing without noticing that there is anything missing (unless they've been notified beforehand).
Yeah I have no data supporting my claims, just wanted to share a bit of my mindset. I really do not wish to push my ideas on you, as I think you are a very talented dev and have been great communicating with the community so far. This is why I feel more free giving my opinions. They are all well meant.

Btw, this might be spoiler for some (so stop reading), but thought I might have encountered some "bugs". When you see the actual scene with the Aywin handjob, her portrait does not have cum in her hair after Zeno cums. When she came out from the room, she had it. Also there was no prompt to skip that scene, like the others gave (btw GREAT addition, it is really cool you can choose).
 

N_taii

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This has been the first game to be completely unplayable for me.
Everything works fine for around 5 mins, then it freezes. Audio still keeps going and depending on where it froze I can hear me interacting with doors or my menu but visually nothing changes.
I'm sorry, this seems to be beyond the scope of what I can fix, as I have never heard of it happening to anyone else. I have tried browsing the forums trying to find a fix to your issue, but no luck so far : ( Have you tried re-downloading? Maybe some files got corrupted in the process?
Sorry I can't help you more : (

Yeah I have no data supporting my claims, just wanted to share a bit of my mindset. I really do not wish to push my ideas on you, as I think you are a very talented dev and have been great communicating with the community so far. This is why I feel more free giving my opinions. They are all well meant.

Btw, this might be spoiler for some (so stop reading), but thought I might have encountered some "bugs". When you see the actual scene with the Aywin handjob, her portrait does not have cum in her hair after Zeno cums. When she came out from the room, she had it. Also there was no prompt to skip that scene, like the others gave (btw GREAT addition, it is really cool you can choose).
Thank you for the heads up! It isn't really a bug, more like something I forgot to add. It will be changed next update : )
 

N_taii

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Will there be pregnancy in the game?
It's high likely there will be, considering I will do many different endings. Probably in one, or several of them.
 

joeblack21

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Although you know that it would be great, that you would believe instead of different endings, different paths, and that NTR can be avoided, believe me I love your story, but I feel a pain in my heart when it cannot be avoided, when a game has the Two paths to follow I no longer feel that pain, but now I can't help it. it hurts a lot.
 
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Although you know that it would be great, that you would believe instead of different endings, different paths, and that NTR can be avoided, believe me I love your story, but I feel a pain in my heart when it cannot be avoided, when a game has the Two paths to follow I no longer feel that pain, but now I can't help it. it hurts a lot.
Yeah and we want this pain, we're addicted
 
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moozoo

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Knowing that everything will be released for free at some point, so why not wait a little until I publish the next update?
I subscribed few days ago just because I'm a fan of such games and good work should be rewarded, although I new I could wait few more days to get a pirate copy. These early leaks may hurt the business a bit, but I believe they will not stop the patrons to subscribe (although drevilbob's robin hooding is unexplainable given free release at some point).
 

hentaikeyfan

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Hey man, just wanted to drop by and say I absolutely LOVED Henteria Chronicles Chapter 1. The True ending actually drove me to tears, no joke. Keep up the great work my dude!
 
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Kulman

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BTW, if you are reading this Ntaii, are you planning to add more of the random sex scenes happening in town? I really like just kinda scene hunting stuff that was not connected to quests. I know that so far not much of that could happen, as the corruptions were low. Not really any dialogue or something, just see stuff through the windows, monaing here, creaking there...
 
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I will tell you this. Your animations are the best i saw in rpg maker games. The detail like cum on face or puting hand on head magnificent. They are the reason i write this ranty post. I wish you best luck N_taii.
 
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Lexam

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Secondly check what big players in "industry" give in theirs patreon (for example Fenoxo 32k or Savin 25k) for 5$ you get everything the game has to offer
Comparing niche genre indie RPG maker dev to "big players" is plain wrong. You don't compare your local shop to Walmart/Lidl/Costco. N_taii products are niche and are aimed at certain people, not the whole audience, and that's why he has smaller but more loyal fanbase.
In terms of patreon i would support you if you give everything for 5$ (everything game vise - vote power etc no).
So you are gonna support the dev if he'll give you more for paying 5$? I'll just say this, you have some devs providing more content and some less, some people have better output some don't, I don't remember how voting is set up for N_taii, but I'd suggest giving 5$ people 1 voting power in the polls 9$ people 2 voting power, and 20$ people 4 voting power.
Some sugestion if you really want to go full time job on this.
You need to remember that going pixel anime route is cutting you already of some player base. See the whine about cg in this thread. Next going full ntr route cut next portion and not having any significant game loop cut you again.
And that's why people love this game, it's original, you have hundreds of game in RPGM with CGs + non-ntr + loop, and almost none with pixel animations + ntr + good story(not crappy loops) I personally disliked bigger non-pixel animations used in first game, and found it as wasted investment from him, because it was breaking my immersion, and therefore we have better quality pixel animations. And I personally hate loops.
Give players some choice. Again look on big players here. CoC or TiTS, you can play all sort of chars dom, subs, male, female, futa, straigh, gay, bi etc. I mean for example on the beginning you choose if pc is fuckboy or cuck. Then in every h-scene or almost every try to think about clever way to let pc fuck the girl.
If he'd add pure non-ntr content, updates would be way smaller and crowd which he gained over months would dissipate, because he's not providing the content they want, same if you include futa,gay content, every added piece of content means less of core(ntr) content, making his current core base unhappy, and yeah maybe if he'll add CGs, make loops, add futa,gay,non-ntr he will get more people, but that's betraying his current audience, which is SLOWLY GROWING.
After all games are defined by players interraction. Your game looks more like a movie.
And that's what we like, we interact and go through the story, being guided by the dev.
Why not to go with evil protag route? You fuck and then give females to others tribe members.
My reasoning is still the same, I wouldn't pledge if he'd change core concept of the game (NTRPG) everytime I see people telling devs "add this, add that" I'm thinking, and what the hell happens to the core stuff? If dev focuses on different things, he obv will lower the amount of core content, and that would piss his core fanbase. "Oh yeah guys, this month there will be a lot of futa and I will add evil protag route content" do you know how many people would unpledge for that month, and where do you find audience boost?

I really dislike your ideas, you are basically telling N_taii to change his game, and by doing that he'll make more money, instead of doing what he likes and what this market is missing, since there's no other NTR Pixelart patreon dev, he currently has monopoly, and by delivering better and better quality in that area, that's how you grow the genre, not by betraying fans you gathered over months of development.
I'll give you and example, I was pledging to this dev infidelisoft when he was developing Swing&Miss (Moral degen/NTR/swinging) game, and his next game became unavoidable futa main protag and I immediately unpledged, so did a lot of his patrons, now he has way smaller corebase, and not really gaining support.
You should just tell N_taii to swap from NTR to pure love romance genre with CGs, coz that would bring him more money.
 
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Niraeza

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Comparing niche genre indie RPG maker dev to "big players" is plain wrong. You don't compare your local shop to Walmart/Lidl/Costco. N_taii products are niche and are aimed at certain people, not the whole audience, and that's why he has smaller but more loyal fanbase.

So you are gonna support the dev if he'll give you more for paying 5$? I'll just say this, you have some devs providing more content and some less, some people have better output some don't, I don't remember how voting is set up for N_taii, but I'd suggest giving 5$ people 1 voting power in the polls 9$ people 2 voting power, and 20$ people 4 voting power.

And that's why people love this game, it's original, you have hundreds of game in RPGM with CGs + non-ntr + loop, and almost none with pixel animations + ntr + good story(not crappy loops) I personally disliked bigger non-pixel animations used in first game, and found it as wasted investment from him, because it was breaking my immersion, and therefore we have better quality pixel animations. And I personally hate loops.

If he'd add pure non-ntr content, updates would be way smaller and crowd which he gained over months would dissipate, because he's not providing the content they want, same if you include futa,gay content, every added piece of content means less of core(ntr) content, making his current core base unhappy, and yeah maybe if he'll add CGs, make loops, add futa,gay,non-ntr he will get more people, but that's betraying his current audience, which is SLOWLY GROWING.

And that's what we like, we interact and go through the story, being guided by the dev.

My reasoning is still the same, I wouldn't pledge if he'd change core concept of the game (NTRPG) everytime I see people telling devs "add this, add that" I'm thinking, and what the hell happens to the core stuff? If dev focuses on different things, he obv will lower the amount of core content, and that would piss his core fanbase. "Oh yeah guys, this month there will be a lot of futa and I will add evil protag route content" do you know how many people would unpledge for that month, and where do you find audience boost?

I really dislike your ideas, you are basically telling N_taii to change his game, and by doing that he'll make more money, instead of doing what he likes and what this market is missing, since there's no other NTR Pixelart patreon dev, he currently has monopoly, and by delivering better and better quality in that area, that's how you grow the genre, not by betraying fans you gathered over months of development.
I'll give you and example, I was pledging to this dev infidelisoft when he was developing Swing&Miss (Moral degen/NTR/swinging) game, and his next game became unavoidable futa main protag and I immediately unpledged, so did a lot of his patrons, now he has way smaller corebase, and not really gaining support.
You should just tell N_taii to swap from NTR to pure love romance genre with CGs, coz that would bring him more money.
Absolutely 100% agree with your responses to this guy.
 
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Kulman

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Absolutely 100% agree with your responses to this guy.
Yeah, except the pricing. It was fine with really side characters for the 20 dollar scene, but as someone who hates and opposes most MTX... this is just something that leaves a bad taste. Just give different rewards for it, something like leaving a name somewhere or some other stuff like that... or make 20 dollar receive the game a little bit earlier, dunno.

I do not know about others, but for me, the 4th extra scene was the best scene in the game yet. Feels shitty to potentially never see it. If ntaii really wants to leave these extra scenes, just stick to non portrait side characters. If you really go down this rabbit hole, you will start having to pay extra for this route, extra for that route... (I know Ntaii would never do that, but I am trying to explain the problem ad absurdum).
 
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No offense my dude, but this and your previous post reads like you had an episode lol. I know that you only want to help and mean good, but this is a pirate forum for porn games/artt and you're in a thread for a netorare pixel game made in RPGMaker. No one, except for the developer maybe, should put this much thought and energy into maximizing some Patreon gains. Just check here, if you're so concerned about him making money:

He has some steady growth. I have money and throw 10 bucks at him. No biggy for me. But in the end it's up to everyone else, if and how much they want to pledge. It's really not rocket science.
 
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