Hey I have a question, yeah I'm not an NTR guy but something I want to play is one where you try to steal the girl yourself, a "I stole the MC's girls myself". Say you play a guy who joins the MC group, you just so happen to be just like the hero same rare class but just a bit stronger from this point during battle who deals the final blow gains an affection point [% tracked], of course the MC starts with elevated points. You can choose who you want to steal, all or none, or even where you want to have sex; in a risky place where the MC finds out quickly or in hiding where he only finds out near the end before the battle with the final boss. Five characters MC, You, Healer(Childhood Friend self trained[50%]), Barbarian(Trainee Rival who focused on heavy weapons[40%]), Mage(Guild Appointed[25%]). Each clearly like him but he's dense, duty bound, waiting for after the final battle take your pick. The last part, at the beginning you choose your character Heart of Gold(kind but jerky answers increase affection faster), Damn Bastard(for those who like playing meet and fuck games), Noble(the kind person). Yeah, events boost affection faster, and for those who want Classic NTR party wipe events, sort of hard to get, and questionable jobs for female companions. Damn I just screwed up and inspired myself....
This game is amazingly tedious to play.
The two big issues are the size of the maps and the slow walk speed of the main character. Even with Shift held down, it takes a long time to cross a single map screen. There's also no sort of fast travel/teleport. Add that to the fact that the world is so big and sparsely populated and... well, most of the demo is spent wandering around between empty rooms.
The only way to advance the plot at any given point is usually to find a person in a given spot/time and talk to them. This means that if you're playing the game properly (i.e, not following a walkthrough) then for every plot point you need to spend literally 10 or 15 real life minutes methodically walking around the entire map, checking every room, most of which are completely empty and have no different content at all, not even a 1-line conversation. And do it three times, for morning noon and night. And you have to do this whole process like 20 times because after you find the person you're meant to talk to, now there's someone else somewhere else in the map to talk to.
compare this to its obvious inspiration, NTRPG. same concept, same walk-around-and-talk-to-people gameplay, but a) you can run from one side of the gameworld to the other in like 20 seconds as opposed to ~minutes, b) there's something happening everywhere all the time, even if it's just a single NPC to talk to, and c) there's a board telling you what to do next in NTRPG2 and a fast travel mechanism in NTRPG1.
The two big issues are the size of the maps and the slow walk speed of the main character. Even with Shift held down, it takes a long time to cross a single map screen. There's also no sort of fast travel/teleport. Add that to the fact that the world is so big and sparsely populated and... well, most of the demo is spent wandering around between empty rooms.
The only way to advance the plot at any given point is usually to find a person in a given spot/time and talk to them. This means that if you're playing the game properly (i.e, not following a walkthrough) then for every plot point you need to spend literally 10 or 15 real life minutes methodically walking around the entire map, checking every room, most of which are completely empty and have no different content at all, not even a 1-line conversation. And do it three times, for morning noon and night. And you have to do this whole process like 20 times because after you find the person you're meant to talk to, now there's someone else somewhere else in the map to talk to.
compare this to its obvious inspiration, NTRPG. same concept, same walk-around-and-talk-to-people gameplay, but a) you can run from one side of the gameworld to the other in like 20 seconds as opposed to ~minutes, b) there's something happening everywhere all the time, even if it's just a single NPC to talk to, and c) there's a board telling you what to do next in NTRPG2 and a fast travel mechanism in NTRPG1.
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Yay, NTRPG spiritual sequels! I need some pixel-sex while I wait on Squirrel Legacy II to drop.
As other people have said, I would definitely improve the walking speed. Not just of your character, but of all characters. There's a whole bunch of scenes where an NPC walks off and you're just waiting for them to leave the screen before you can move again. In that sense, triggers could probably be improved as well. Do I really need to talk to Celestine in the evening to know the maze is ready before I try it in the morning? Can't the maze be finished once I hit the trigger of trading with Eleanora and maybe sleeping? It'd save a whole trip around the map.
Another small tip: give people a save option once the version is finished. There's the whole final cutscene people will have to rewatch when they play the next version; this could be frustrating, even though it's not THAT long, it's just a little something that's generally appreciated.
As other people have said, I would definitely improve the walking speed. Not just of your character, but of all characters. There's a whole bunch of scenes where an NPC walks off and you're just waiting for them to leave the screen before you can move again. In that sense, triggers could probably be improved as well. Do I really need to talk to Celestine in the evening to know the maze is ready before I try it in the morning? Can't the maze be finished once I hit the trigger of trading with Eleanora and maybe sleeping? It'd save a whole trip around the map.
Another small tip: give people a save option once the version is finished. There's the whole final cutscene people will have to rewatch when they play the next version; this could be frustrating, even though it's not THAT long, it's just a little something that's generally appreciated.
I have a fix update ready as we speak, where I removed the "temporarily" when talking about the save everywhere option. This one is going to stay^^
Also added an item that improves walk speed to max when you push a button on your keyboard (just push, you don't have to maintain it). For the NPCs, I won't increase their speed but instead will just add a fade out/fade in screen when they start to walk off, easier that way^^
As for the maze, I'll keep it as is for now, but I'll definitely remember to make it simpler and less tedious for any future versions.
Thank you for your feedback !
As stated above, speed will be increased and teleportation crystals will be added after the demo version events (adding them at the beginning might mess up a lot of events where MC need to walk in the map from a certain angle). Any future updates won't need MC to run around empty rooms like a madman^^ (especially now that there are 2 more characters in the game)
Technically, we're still talking about NTR there, just not Netorare (where MC gets his girls taken away) but Netori (where you play as the one taking the girls away)^^
I find those hard to write, because I always feel uneasy writing a main character you actually play for the whole game as a bad guy. But you've got a good idea there : )
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Very interesting. First time I see someone trying to make a game similiar to NTRPG and it has definitely a potential. Writing is nice and you can feel for a character, world is nicely designed and looks professional, pixel art is on point and pretty bugless (except for a Tenacity Key you can buy for free). It's really hard to judge this one at this point but I'll surely observe it. It has some flaws which might be important or not in a future - NTRPG is much less gameplay focused than this one so you can actually fall into story without any breaks. I assume it was more or less an intro so it can change later on. Another thing is a symbolicism (all these natures) is a bit confusing in such a game, but I guess it's also a part of an introduction. I feel like a game of this quality (really well made scenery) would feel less emptier if some items had any description (like a food or whatever). Small thing but I feel it would just add a lot. Not much more to say about this one but to wait and see a progress.
Yes, the introduction is meant to be different than the rest. NTRPG2 was just the same, with some gameplay at the beginningso you could settle in the world more easily before the real fun starts. The second part after the demo will be much more cutscenes focused, so the story will take a bigger part in the gameplay.
The thing about the items might be a good idea. I'll see what I can do. (bug should be fixed now btw^^)
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fan of ntrpg here , i must say since maybe becoz its on early stage, character development of each one are lacking cant seem to attach any feelings yet, then throwing sex scenes or hot scenes kinda makes it off/weird.. where we dont fully understand the characteristics of each character towards the mc .. i dont know maybe lack of interaction or the no talk blant mc..... i understand this is kinda showcasing what to expect in the future and i like it... anyways i hope there will be some more elements of mystery where the player gonna ask "are they doing it ?.. where could they be? is there something going on? the urge of want to know w/c cant be seen easily that makes it more intriguing ....and some hot random side events that are repeatable w/c is not connected and wont change anything in the story...
that aside im happy there are people inspired by ntrpg and the pixelated sex is damn good looking for more in the future,great game..
that aside im happy there are people inspired by ntrpg and the pixelated sex is damn good looking for more in the future,great game..
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Don't worry, one of the things that is the strength of NTRPG is the power of suggestion, suggesting things are happening without showing it directly. I love this kind of things, and I'll add them for sure : )
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Can anyone spare a save file where some sex times happens like with the Redhead Sister or any other female npc??
pls
pls
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My saves for the scenes.
Not entirely sure if they'll be compatible for the future but hopefully?
Save 1 is a HJ
Save 2 is a BJ
Save 4 is the dream sequence (NTR)
Save 5 is right before the demo ends.
1 and 2 are slight NTR but not directed at the MC
Not entirely sure if they'll be compatible for the future but hopefully?
Save 1 is a HJ
Save 2 is a BJ
Save 4 is the dream sequence (NTR)
Save 5 is right before the demo ends.
1 and 2 are slight NTR but not directed at the MC
Thanks for adding the save files! I'm not sure whether future updates will be save compatible or not, as I'll be adding more stuff in the database and possibly add scripts as well, which might very well mess up with the save files (kind of a gamble). Worst case scenario, I'll add the save files myself with each update and an option to skip to the end of the demo version.
You could add a text/dialogue box and let the player choose when the scene continues, so it wont actually be "real time". Either way its not important.
Will this be more akin to NTRPG 1 or NTRPG 2? I liked NTRPG 1 but the second felt a little too hopeless for me, I liked it for the most part but I'm a bit soft and the sense of isolation from the third act got to me a bit lol
NTRPG2 in term of overall feel and NTR scenes, but without the despair stuff. I didn't like it either. The end is what I disliked the most which is why I'll go for a dual ending, NTR or non-NTR, and you'll be able to choose one.
Okay. Finally managed to sit down and give the demo a whirl. Here's some thoughts.
In large, I agree with a lot of the sentiment that others have been voicing. The map is massive and makes finding the next event to progress a little bit of a hassle, especially if you want to be thorough. I for example ran into the Lumberjacks woods for no reason many times, juuuuust to check if there was an event. This, paired up with the time of day basically tripling the exploration made it a little bothersome.
NTRPG 1 & 2 also used the time of day system to place events, which I actually really like. NTRPG 2 is my alltime favorite NTR game, even beyond the RPGmaker games and I'm trying to think what made that one so good. I think it boils down to the story taking precedence over the "game". I'll try to explain.
In Henteria here, you are a little bit constrained by the game aspect, as you run from point A to point B, trying to find the next trigger to progress. In NTRPG 2, I never felt like that. There was always the handy dandy timetable and even without it, you could easily traverse the small town, knowing where characters are likely to be. The same "technically" goes for this demo, but the characters location feels much more like "This is where this NPC is at this time." rather than "This is where this PERSON is likely to be, due to their occupation or habits."
I think the reason why NTRPG 2 made me care so much was the intro where all you really do is observe these characters living their daily lives, with their silly slice of life hijinx on the side. It made the eventual descent into hell all the more painful and thus effective as an NTR story. Henteria failed to do that for me, at least with this demo. It is really important to try to make the player/viewer/reader get attached to the characters of an NTR story, because otherwise it'll be ineffective when the tragedy begins to unfold.
I think the biggest miss for me is the demon characters, introduced at the end. They are obviously going to be the main antagonists for the NTR, but I personally, would have liked for it to have been Gary. That's another thing that I've found works REALLY well in NTR. Having the antagonist be someone close to the POV character. Gary, being the "funny uncle" type of character, if developed effectively before starting the NTR, could be monstrously hurtful as the NTR antagonist. Being the sole male role model for the protagonist and then slowly finding the man is not only railing the maid, but also the sister and the lady of the house as well. Well... When I say it like that, it gets a little bit too wild, with three separate ladies getting NTRed by one guy. But that's another thing. I would concentrate that sort of story on ONE girl to make the NTR more effective.
Having the villains show up out of the blue CAN work. It did in NTRPG 2 after all. But the thing that made it work was seeing this outsider invading this idyllic life the characters were living and the twisting it and taking it all for himself. Henteria, I feel, didn't quite capture that feel just yet. But how it pans out remains to be seen! I have a good feeling about how it'll develop. Which hopefully will give me a BAD FEELING about how it'll develop, if you catch my meaning. Heh.
As a whole, I see HUGE potential in this game, and despite my own tastes in NTR leaning towards more depressing NTR stories, I think this will be a great game and story, given time. The gameplay implementation and map navigation was the only real issue I found with the game, and I really, REALLY HOPE that you'll be able to save whenever you want, because going back to save in the bedroom would be a pain in the buttocks for people like me who like to have saves at specific times, just in case.
I'm going to be keeping an eye on this project. It's gonna be a good one.
In large, I agree with a lot of the sentiment that others have been voicing. The map is massive and makes finding the next event to progress a little bit of a hassle, especially if you want to be thorough. I for example ran into the Lumberjacks woods for no reason many times, juuuuust to check if there was an event. This, paired up with the time of day basically tripling the exploration made it a little bothersome.
NTRPG 1 & 2 also used the time of day system to place events, which I actually really like. NTRPG 2 is my alltime favorite NTR game, even beyond the RPGmaker games and I'm trying to think what made that one so good. I think it boils down to the story taking precedence over the "game". I'll try to explain.
In Henteria here, you are a little bit constrained by the game aspect, as you run from point A to point B, trying to find the next trigger to progress. In NTRPG 2, I never felt like that. There was always the handy dandy timetable and even without it, you could easily traverse the small town, knowing where characters are likely to be. The same "technically" goes for this demo, but the characters location feels much more like "This is where this NPC is at this time." rather than "This is where this PERSON is likely to be, due to their occupation or habits."
I think the reason why NTRPG 2 made me care so much was the intro where all you really do is observe these characters living their daily lives, with their silly slice of life hijinx on the side. It made the eventual descent into hell all the more painful and thus effective as an NTR story. Henteria failed to do that for me, at least with this demo. It is really important to try to make the player/viewer/reader get attached to the characters of an NTR story, because otherwise it'll be ineffective when the tragedy begins to unfold.
I think the biggest miss for me is the demon characters, introduced at the end. They are obviously going to be the main antagonists for the NTR, but I personally, would have liked for it to have been Gary. That's another thing that I've found works REALLY well in NTR. Having the antagonist be someone close to the POV character. Gary, being the "funny uncle" type of character, if developed effectively before starting the NTR, could be monstrously hurtful as the NTR antagonist. Being the sole male role model for the protagonist and then slowly finding the man is not only railing the maid, but also the sister and the lady of the house as well. Well... When I say it like that, it gets a little bit too wild, with three separate ladies getting NTRed by one guy. But that's another thing. I would concentrate that sort of story on ONE girl to make the NTR more effective.
Having the villains show up out of the blue CAN work. It did in NTRPG 2 after all. But the thing that made it work was seeing this outsider invading this idyllic life the characters were living and the twisting it and taking it all for himself. Henteria, I feel, didn't quite capture that feel just yet. But how it pans out remains to be seen! I have a good feeling about how it'll develop. Which hopefully will give me a BAD FEELING about how it'll develop, if you catch my meaning. Heh.
As a whole, I see HUGE potential in this game, and despite my own tastes in NTR leaning towards more depressing NTR stories, I think this will be a great game and story, given time. The gameplay implementation and map navigation was the only real issue I found with the game, and I really, REALLY HOPE that you'll be able to save whenever you want, because going back to save in the bedroom would be a pain in the buttocks for people like me who like to have saves at specific times, just in case.
I'm going to be keeping an eye on this project. It's gonna be a good one.
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I enjoyed this quite a bit, took a long time to get to the H scenes, and then the demo ended but i really liked the scenario it set up. I also love pixel art porn games.
This is shaping up to be good
This is shaping up to be good
This looks very promising. Will be watching out for updates. Hopefully the development moves along smoothly.
The only thing I would comment on as far as the game goes, is that there should maybe be a bit more romantic build up between the MC and Lady Eleonora , but maybe that will continue to develop despite Ezekiel's presence?
Anyway, a great start and a most welcome initiative in Hanataka's absence.
The only thing I would comment on as far as the game goes, is that there should maybe be a bit more romantic build up between the MC and Lady Eleonora , but maybe that will continue to develop despite Ezekiel's presence?
Anyway, a great start and a most welcome initiative in Hanataka's absence.
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I might be mistaken, but for me it seems like the game is set up for Ezekiel to pair up with Lady Eleonora, Gizmo with Nestia and Gary with Celestine.