RPGM Completed Henteria Chronicles: Chapter 1 [Up.6 Fix 2] [N_taii]

[Masterofpuppets]

I might be mistaken, but for me it seems like the game is set up for Ezekiel to pair up with Lady Eleonora, Gizmo with Nestia and Gary with Celestine.

Yeah, Gary is obviously paired with Celestine. My point was more about his role as the goofy, comedic sort of antagonist and how I personally like NTR antagonists that are close to the protagonist. But that's my own tastes, like I said in my post.

 

[N_taii]

Yeah, Gary is obviously paired with Celestine. My point was more about his role as the goofy, comedic sort of antagonist and how I personally like NTR antagonists that are close to the protagonist. But that's my own tastes, like I said in my post.

Gary is definitely going to be part of this. Remember that the demons are supposed to be masters of manipulation, and this is especially true for Ezekiel : )

 

[N_taii]

Okay. Finally managed to sit down and give the demo a whirl. Here's some thoughts.

In large, I agree with a lot of the sentiment that others have been voicing. The map is massive and makes finding the next event to progress a little bit of a hassle, especially if you want to be thorough. I for example ran into the Lumberjacks woods for no reason many times, juuuuust to check if there was an event. This, paired up with the time of day basically tripling the exploration made it a little bothersome.

NTRPG 1 & 2 also used the time of day system to place events, which I actually really like. NTRPG 2 is my alltime favorite NTR game, even beyond the RPGmaker games and I'm trying to think what made that one so good. I think it boils down to the story taking precedence over the "game". I'll try to explain.

In Henteria here, you are a little bit constrained by the game aspect, as you run from point A to point B, trying to find the next trigger to progress. In NTRPG 2, I never felt like that. There was always the handy dandy timetable and even without it, you could easily traverse the small town, knowing where characters are likely to be. The same "technically" goes for this demo, but the characters location feels much more like "This is where this NPC is at this time." rather than "This is where this PERSON is likely to be, due to their occupation or habits."

I think the reason why NTRPG 2 made me care so much was the intro where all you really do is observe these characters living their daily lives, with their silly slice of life hijinx on the side. It made the eventual descent into hell all the more painful and thus effective as an NTR story. Henteria failed to do that for me, at least with this demo. It is really important to try to make the player/viewer/reader get attached to the characters of an NTR story, because otherwise it'll be ineffective when the tragedy begins to unfold.

I think the biggest miss for me is the demon characters, introduced at the end. They are obviously going to be the main antagonists for the NTR, but I personally, would have liked for it to have been Gary. That's another thing that I've found works REALLY well in NTR. Having the antagonist be someone close to the POV character. Gary, being the "funny uncle" type of character, if developed effectively before starting the NTR, could be monstrously hurtful as the NTR antagonist. Being the sole male role model for the protagonist and then slowly finding the man is not only railing the maid, but also the sister and the lady of the house as well. Well... When I say it like that, it gets a little bit too wild, with three separate ladies getting NTRed by one guy. But that's another thing. I would concentrate that sort of story on ONE girl to make the NTR more effective.
Having the villains show up out of the blue CAN work. It did in NTRPG 2 after all. But the thing that made it work was seeing this outsider invading this idyllic life the characters were living and the twisting it and taking it all for himself. Henteria, I feel, didn't quite capture that feel just yet. But how it pans out remains to be seen! I have a good feeling about how it'll develop. Which hopefully will give me a BAD FEELING about how it'll develop, if you catch my meaning. Heh.

As a whole, I see HUGE potential in this game, and despite my own tastes in NTR leaning towards more depressing NTR stories, I think this will be a great game and story, given time. The gameplay implementation and map navigation was the only real issue I found with the game, and I really, REALLY HOPE that you'll be able to save whenever you want, because going back to save in the bedroom would be a pain in the buttocks for people like me who like to have saves at specific times, just in case.

I'm going to be keeping an eye on this project. It's gonna be a good one.

Good points you're making there. I thinks trying to implement too much gameplay mechanics and map a bit too big made it detrimental for the characters' relationship, which will mean more work on it for the next updates.
However, the way I remember NTRPG2, you only start to dive into the story and the world with the introduction, but relationships are really built along the NTR (the main girl reveals her love for the MC only halfway through the game), which is what I'll try to do here. Well, not exactly the same thing, but something similar.
However, I will avoid the too depressing stuff, sorry^^ I mean, this is a NTRPG2 spoiler for some, but getting your character get killed at the end of the game isn't something I'm willing to do, as he might show up in future games as well, only not as a MC.

 

[Masterofpuppets]

However, the way I remember NTRPG2, you only start to dive into the story and the world with the introduction, but relationships are really built along the NTR (the main girl reveals her love for the MC only halfway through the game), which is what I'll try to do here. Well, not exactly the same thing, but something similar.

Oh boy, yeah. That confession was quite something! Phew!
But yeah, the story definitely opens up further after the intro, but that opening sequence of the day to day life of these characters always stuck with me, so it must've done something right. But I do have to admit, many of the scenes that play out AFTER the NTR starts were incredibly powerful as well. That is to say, the introduction is important, but it isn't definitely everything. The recently finished Squirrel Legacy had a TERRIBLE first impression on me, but it very soon became one of my favorite NTR games in recent times, well... from the few that there are in the first place.

However, I will avoid the too depressing stuff, sorry^^ I mean, this is a NTRPG2 spoiler for some, but getting your character get killed at the end of the game isn't something I'm willing to do, as he might show up in future games as well, only not as a MC.

That's perfectly fine, my good man. I just personally love that depressing stuff. I'm really happy someone with the same appreciation for NTRPGs started a promising project like this.

 

[N_taii]

Oh boy, yeah. That confession was quite something! Phew!
But yeah, the story definitely opens up further after the intro, but that opening sequence of the day to day life of these characters always stuck with me, so it must've done something right.

This is purely an assumption, but maybe it did impact on you precisely because of the rest of the story? Say the game had ended right after the bad guys came into town, maybe it wouldn't have had the same effect on you ?
Then again, we won't know unless I keep working on it^^

 

[capicoli]

I enjoyed, especially the pixel art. This will probably finish before NTRPG4

 

[Masterofpuppets]

This is purely an assumption, but maybe it did impact on you precisely because of the rest of the story? Say the game had ended right after the bad guys came into town, maybe it wouldn't have had the same effect on you ?

I would've been happy with my experience from just the FIRST NTR scene. The one after Mars wakes up in the village chiefs house and goes... Upstairs. That sequence wouldn't have hit so hard if I hadn't gotten attached to the characters during the intro. But I'm not saying this to harp on your game or to say that the intro is everything, because your story is really promising all on its own.

Then again, we won't know unless I keep working on it^^

Exactly, my friend. Keep up the good work!

 

[zexer14]

I might be mistaken, but for me it seems like the game is set up for Ezekiel to pair up with Lady Eleonora, Gizmo with Nestia and Gary with Celestine.

i believe that later in the game gary will be like one of the side ntr characters like in NTRPG 2 with the men of the village starting fuck the girls of the village.

 

[Diggers129]

I love the first NTRPG cause all the events plus the 3 ends which is my problem with NTRPG2 there is really only 1 ending and it’s really kind of a turn off ending it felt just like a hard ntr ending I like all my flavors of ntr plus I still liked the wedding ending in the first one so I hope you can avoid the same kind of ending that NTRPG2 had

 

[quali]

This one is pretty phenomenal... I always hoped that NTRPG would be continued with those nice pixel sex scences and the same ntr feeling that you get while playing. But like others already said, moving around was quite the hassle because you have to check everywhere. What amazed me the most was that, in my opinion, the story is even harder ntr because you have a small child with his sister being rescued by a Valkyrie. Both are being raised by said Valkyrie and staff for ten years. So the bond is way deeper between those siblings because of this traumatic event in the forest. Imagine now said sister being ntred, used as a toy and so on. It has a way harder impact on an emotional level than in NTRPG. Adding to this is the way in which those damn demons arrive. They practically set the MC up ( Iam just guessing here because of what the maid said in front of the barrier to the forest) and make him responsible for all the cuckolding that is hopefully about to happen... Another strength is your writing especially in the woodcutter scenes where the apprentice talks the his supervisor down and also a nice sense of humor sometimes in conversations. For example where you have to trade to get into the labyrinth. So it is a very good balanced game and doesn't have a major flaw.

Very nice also the woodcutter program where you have to chop woods while the Women is working on something different in the house... And being used by an Apprentice... well done again! What could be done here in my opinion (I really hope you are also going to develop the woodcutter or combine them all in some scences in the mansion maybe...) might be that said women is being asked out on a date by the other woodcutter and while being on the date in the city she is frequently called by the other guy to do certain acts. Might be great to see somekind of development here and not being abandoned completely. Or maybe the guy is selling her out and becoming her Pimp but that might be to far fetched.

What would also be very cool would be some kind of big orgy in the mansion with all women and men coming together like in NTRPG 1, where the white gooey stuff is everywhere which you already did very well in this demo by the way. Whole room painted white practically . You have so many possibilites here again. I mean the mansion is huge you could have so many different sex scenes in all different rooms or outside. With all kinds of partners. You should definitely let yourself some time with development depending how fast you want to progress with each character in the game because opportunites are practically endless. 2-3 scenes in each room for each character and location might be not to far fetched. And you can also combine them as you see fit... You could also make the whole mansion into a whorehouse in the end or start selling the women to the highest bidder to said merchant in the game for some sexy time .

Who also has to play some major role of course is the perverted butler. Maybe he works together with the demons and puts stuff in the food or he gets the leftovers of the demons after they are finished with the women etc.. An old geezer having fun with pretty young girls always works in a NTR game.

In the end I'd say that you have all the puzzle pieces to make it even greater than NTRPG in my humble opinion.

 

[N_taii]

This one is pretty phenomenal... I always hoped that NTRPG would be continued with those nice pixel sex scences and the same ntr feeling that you get while playing. But like others already said, moving around was quite the hassle because you have to check everywhere. What amazed me the most was that, in my opinion, the story is even harder ntr because you have a small child with his sister being rescued by a Valkyrie. Both are being raised by said Valkyrie and staff for ten years. So the bond is way deeper between those siblings because of this traumatic event in the forest. Imagine now said sister being ntred, used as a toy and so on. It has a way harder impact on an emotional level than in NTRPG. Adding to this is the way in which those damn demons arrive. They practically set the MC up ( Iam just guessing here because of what the maid said in front of the barrier to the forest) and make him responsible for all the cuckolding that is hopefully about to happen... Another strength is your writing especially in the woodcutter scenes where the apprentice talks the his supervisor down and also a nice sense of humor sometimes in conversations. For example where you have to trade to get into the labyrinth. So it is a very good balanced game and doesn't have a major flaw.

Very nice also the woodcutter program where you have to chop woods while the Women is working on something different in the house... And being used by an Apprentice... well done again! What could be done here in my opinion (I really hope you are also going to develop the woodcutter or combine them all in some scences in the mansion maybe...) might be that said women is being asked out on a date by the other woodcutter and while being on the date in the city she is frequently called by the other guy to do certain acts. Might be great to see somekind of development here and not being abandoned completely. Or maybe the guy is selling her out and becoming her Pimp but that might be to far fetched.

What would also be very cool would be some kind of big orgy in the mansion with all women and men coming together like in NTRPG 1, where the white gooey stuff is everywhere which you already did very well in this demo by the way. Whole room painted white practically . You have so many possibilites here again. I mean the mansion is huge you could have so many different sex scenes in all different rooms or outside. With all kinds of partners. You should definitely let yourself some time with development depending how fast you want to progress with each character in the game because opportunites are practically endless. 2-3 scenes in each room for each character and location might be not to far fetched. And you can also combine them as you see fit... You could also make the whole mansion into a whorehouse in the end or start selling the women to the highest bidder to said merchant in the game for some sexy time .

Who also has to play some major role of course is the perverted butler. Maybe he works together with the demons and puts stuff in the food or he gets the leftovers of the demons after they are finished with the women etc.. An old geezer having fun with pretty young girls always works in a NTR game.

In the end I'd say that you have all the puzzle pieces to make it even greater than NTRPG in my humble opinion.

Such a long comment, you remind me of myself when I first discovered NTRPG and started giving some suggestions to Hanataka to what I would like to see (he probably never saw it though)^^ That's great, thank you, because it means I'm doing something right.

I can't promise I will be able to implement everything you said and would like to see, because we all have different fetishes even when it comes to NTR, but I hope you'll like what's to come anyway. I'll keep your ideas in mind.

 

[quali]

At least you saw it thats more than enough for me and you are of course right that everybody has his own fetishes. What I still wanted to add, what is always a little bit underrated in those games but has much of an impact in my opinion, are clothes of the female characters. I would guess it's not that hard to make them wear different clothing styles depending on their corruption level. Wearing different lingerie, toys etc. or no pantsu, bras, being groped... and the protagonist is being kept in the dark... Or the Mistress starts doing "chores" around the house in a maid uniform. You just have so many possibilites here which can improve the overall feel you get from playing. I'am also thinking about creating my own game and I also want them in the same style like yours. Is it very hard to get started with this pixel art or how do I even start with no experience in this kind of art?

 

[N_taii]

At least you saw it thats more than enough for me and you are of course right that everybody has his own fetishes. What I still wanted to add, what is always a little bit underrated in those games but has much of an impact in my opinion, are clothes of the female characters. I would guess it's not that hard to make them wear different clothing styles depending on their corruption level. Wearing different lingerie, toys etc. or no pantsu, bras, being groped... and the protagonist is being kept in the dark... Or the Mistress starts doing "chores" around the house in a maid uniform. You just have so many possibilites here which can improve the overall feel you get from playing. I'am also thinking about creating my own game and I also want them in the same style like yours. Is it very hard to get started with this pixel art or how do I even start with no experience in this kind of art?

To begin with, I wanna say I'm just like you, I've got no experience in pixel art animation, that's why I'm relying on pros for the more complicated ones^^
If you wanna start with a sex game in RPG maker sprites, I'd advise you to start off with RPG Vx Ace. The newest one in the RPG maker series is RPG Maker MV, and that's what most people use, but for people like you and me with close to no drawing experience, Vx Ace has smaller and more "rough" sprites, meaning that if you mess around with them and it's not that pretty, people are less likely to notice, because the base sprites weren't that detailed to begin with.

Besides, there are some free base sex sprites out there, mostly for RPGM Vx Ace, which I use a lot and modify according to what I need. Japanese Eroge makers also use those a lot for their RPGM Vx games. If I were to make a game in MV, I'd definitely hire a pixel artist to modify the sprites though. There's already someone I'm comissioning for the "bgger animation", like you've seen at the end of the dream sequence.

 

[DarkKaiba666]

I will definitely check out your game, but the protagonist definitely is aware of the cuckolding in NTRPG 1 and 2 especially. Hopefully you will consider adding this element!

 

[N_taii]

I will definitely check out your game, but the protagonist definitely is aware of the cuckolding in NTRPG 1 and 2 especially. Hopefully you will consider adding this element!

While it is suggested, it is never directly implied until the very end as far as I remember. I just want to recreate this feeling of uncertainty.

 

[DarkKaiba666]

For the first half of each game that is absolutely true. The second half of NTRPG2 is all about witnessing it in your presence though. That feeling of uncertainty is merely just one of the elements they have though so don't get too caught up in just that

 

[Crim]

While it is suggested, it is never directly implied until the very end as far as I remember. I just want to recreate this feeling of uncertainty.

I mean he literally witnesses it repeatedly in NTRPG2, right?

This aside, absolutely fantastic so far, glad I stumbled on it. Little slow in places but that's needed sometimes for world building.
Keep up the good work, looking forward to the next update.

 

[zebucetiva]

Looks like NTRPG2? I'M IN

 

[N_taii]

I mean he literally witnesses it repeatedly in NTRPG2, right?

This aside, absolutely fantastic so far, glad I stumbled on it. Little slow in places but that's needed sometimes for world building.
Keep up the good work, looking forward to the next update.

True, true, but not until the end does he act upon what he saw. The MC stays passive, which leaves us wondering what's going on and if he really saw it or if we, the player, actually saw more than him. Maybe that's a bit far-fetched and that's just me, but the MC staying passive until the end and us wondering what's going on felt like a big part of the game to me^^
Anyway, thank you for your kind comment! : )

Looks like NTRPG2? I'M IN

Actually, it looks like NTRPG1 one, since it's the same RPGMaker version : ) But the ambiance should feel like NTRPG2, or at least that's what I'm aiming for^^

 

[proxicide25]

NTRPG2 in term of overall feel and NTR scenes, but without the despair stuff. I didn't like it either. The end is what I disliked the most which is why I'll go for a dual ending, NTR or non-NTR, and you'll be able to choose one.

Uhh, this is nice, if it is possible, can there be a third ending which is... Non-NTR but the girls keep cheating with someone? Personally, and for NTR perspective, I really love it when the MC thinks he fixed everything but behind his back, everything is the same just a petition more than a suggestion though, so sorry about that!